OldManRiver
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I would think it would depend on a couple of factors. Since there are basically two types of plants to consider, and two species (we will leave ruderalis hybrids/autos out of the conversation), you need to figure what your combo prefers. For both Sativa and Indica, there are two sub groups that react differently to the light schedule. Both species vary depending on their latitudes, since a plant grown at more northerly (or southerly) latitudes will have a much greater swing in day/night ratio. Plants in the far north might see 20 hours or more of sun during June, but a month and a half later it is down to 14. Plants nearer the equator see closer to 12/12 year round. The 6/2 light/dark cycle might work well at preventing flowering, it's hard to say if it is beneficial to the plant's growth, since they seem to do most of their growth during the dark. By breaking up the longer dark period, it might not get the same growth due to the lag time it takes a plant to go from light to dark mode, and all of the metabolism changes that accompany it. I also could be talkin out of my arse since I've never tried it...but my impetus is to keep things as close to imitating real life conditions as possible. While it might be possible to improve upon what nature provides, a lot of growers prefer keeping in basic and natural.Whats everyones thoughts on 6 2 light cyles for veg or maybe goin 6 2 for early veg then 18 6 late veg ...
@OldManRiver
https://www.maximumyield.com/try-this-highly-recommended-cannabis-lighting-schedule/2/4927
What would suffice as evidence? If you just need to be right, I concede. Never once did I post that "...we're all doing it wrong..." Google m8.
I'm eager to see what you find. My opinions are strong, but I'll change them in a new york minute based on data.I just switched my tent to 6/2 to test this shit. I got tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, seedlings and many clones with some aromatic herbs. I know their growth pattern much less and i noticed my new seedlings getting droopy at the last 3-4 hrs of their photoperiod. Lights are a tad intense for them i think.
So i want to see if this schedule would change anything, and if it does, for better or for worse.
Not scientific by any means. No control group or anything and the outcome will be judged by my human eyes and senses. But i like to see and try stuff for myself and since no one who tried this schedule presented any facts, i gots to do it.
I'm eager to see what you find. My opinions are strong, but I'll change them in a new york minute based on data.
I just switched my tent to 6/2 to test this shit. I got tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, seedlings and many clones with some aromatic herbs. I know their growth pattern much less and i noticed my new seedlings getting droopy at the last 3-4 hrs of their photoperiod. Lights are a tad intense for them i think.
So i want to see if this schedule would change anything, and if it does, for better or for worse.
Not scientific by any means. No control group or anything and the outcome will be judged by my human eyes and senses. But i like to see and try stuff for myself and since no one who tried this schedule presented any facts, i gots to do it.
Hello ,any news yet ? <3
Well said but I dont believe mother nature consistently produces moldy seeded flowers outside. Mother nature is designed to grow all plants and not just cannabis...there is room for improvement in a controlled indoor setting for any plant you wish to improve on.I’ve heard of folks using that method and having success. I’d personally find it annoying but to each their own.
One things for sure I don’t buy into the whole “Mother Nature does it this way” horseshit. Mother Nature produces low potency moldy seeded bud. Indoor growers manipulate Mother Nature on the daily to get what we want. So many put up such a fight over defoliation and lollipoping cause momma nature don’t play that shit
Right.Well said but I dont believe mother nature consistently produces moldy seeded flowers outside. Mother nature is designed to grow all plants and not just cannabis...there is room for improvement in a controlled indoor setting for any plant you wish to improve on.
Almost every characteristic of weed, or any domesticated plant, is the result of selection over many generations. Much like dogs, if left to their own devices, in a few generations, weed plants mongrelize back to ditch weed. This isn't an indoor/outdoor differentiator, its the difference between ditch weed and todays seeds.Right.
in nature plants only care about continuing the specices and such. Left completely to their own I’m sure you could find some semi smokable bud on em but ol momma and the species don’t give two shits about yield or whether we benefit lol
@OldManRiver
-earth's day was shorter in the past & has never been 24 hrs of light
-" ... but their biology doesn't work well under that?" if they are alive their biology works, however we're discussing an improvement to their natural processes
-100% right, i should not have used the phrase "... and only begin to access ...", its a spectrum from bad to good & 'more effectively', 'improved', 'better' would have conveyed my point
-"18 hrs of light builds up heat that isn't measured by a thermometer?" idk what your asking. ladies have an optimal temperature window & 18 hrs of heat could push the temperature outside of this
-you know if the light is too intense it damages the plant's tissues. 18/6 vs 6/2 vs 9/3 produces the same "amount" (photon count) of light
- it isn't right vs wrong. I'd hope your open to new ideas, methods, & discussions.
@CaliRooted
Everyone should grow!
this is why we grow super good weed in Australia ;) SA is the driest climate in the world plus we have almost the highest UV index along with summers at having every single day above 30 celsius with no frosts and days never getting shorter than 10 hoursAlmost every characteristic of weed, or any domesticated plant, is the result of selection over many generations. Much like dogs, if left to their own devices, in a few generations, weed plants mongrelize back to ditch weed. This isn't an indoor/outdoor differentiator, its the difference between ditch weed and todays seeds.
But to the point of mother nature. Various pot strains are well adapted to several climates. Grown in those climates, good outdoor weed is pretty close to the better indoor weed. Only pretty close; you can do stuff with light spectrum indoors that you can't do outdoors. But you can't beat outdoors for easy and cheap if you live in one of those climates. And man, it's fun growing eight footers.
Grow in a climate that is too cool, moist, short, yeah, its tough.
Well plants/life had evolved to compete with a lot of things most plants don't have our ideal human conditions. Many things cause a loss in light levels in nature. Weather, bad conditions, other plants competition. Biologically it makes sense to use energy when needed, so if plant had less light in any fashion it responds by growing (its activelytrying to survive). Seedlings do this to an extreme they grow out long to reach/find light if there isnt enough. So if it's night time and you grew a little more then the competition you might be the first to reach the light and simultaneously block your competition now they start a race growing more every time one blocks/shades the other (night time is a loss of sun light on most basic level) . Biologically the life on this planet even down to macrobiotic life is extreme smart and efficient, responding to what's needed when needed. In other words you know when you eat a lot of food and get real tired (it takes energy just to live on a basic level). Cannabis is a robust plant it may be able to "thrive" in any light as long as other conditions are ideal. Stress for stimulation is another thing to consider. I.e plants adapt to what's required (especially cannabis). And just in my experience even with regular hours 17/7 cycle, all the growth happens at night, it's especially noticeable when plants are young. Does this prove dark hours are better, no. all it proves is plants respond to light much like human digestion of food too much or too little is bad for everyone but a healthy amount can be split up in 2 or 3 or 4 meals depending on who you are. So Biologically I'm positive there is somthing to a 6/2 cycle.Really? Plants have evolved for millions of years under a 24 day but their biology doesn't work well under that? They can only consume starches during darkness? If what you are saying were true, then 24/hr light schedules during veg should kill the plants. We don't see that.
18 hrs of light builds up heat that isn't measured by a thermometer? Light stresses plants? Who would have thunk that thousands of growers that have seen their yields increasing as light increased are all wrong?
Citation, please. Your statements make no sense.
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