60 plants. G13+Hash plant. 1600w Aeroflo60 grow

[nuttso]

did you kill all bugs?

 

[tokinupon1]

I've worked with aero a little. With advanced I would really only use their base nutes like sensi a+b big bud cal mg and nothing really else to start. Those are going to benefit you the best. Voodoo,tarantula,pirrana,and carbo load are going to cause problems these all grow and clog lines. If ya clean alot you should be fine. If your going to use voodoo also I believe you need to use some kind of carb additive so they have something to eat or they die and there not of much use dead.

 

[weedgirl]

I've worked with aero a little. With advanced I would really only use their base nutes like sensi a+b big bud cal mg and nothing really else to start. Those are going to benefit you the best. Voodoo,tarantula,pirrana,and carbo load are going to cause problems these all grow and clog lines. If ya clean alot you should be fine. If your going to use voodoo also I believe you need to use some kind of carb additive so they have something to eat or they die and there not of much use dead.

I am using 2 ml/l of micro/grow/bloom, is that not fine for base nuets?

You are not the first to tell me the root clogging problem with root enhancers, but a friend told me I would be fine with voodoo juice.

@ nuttso
Yes, no sign of spider mites so far.

 

[StrikeitRich]

my opinion. is yes Voodo is fine. The other stuff can cuase not only too long of roots that block up the valves and such u also would really hate taking a toothbrush to the inside of the whole setup if u got an outofcontrol build up of badguys.lol.

Fun of areo flow units. lol.

Just keep on doing what ur doing.

When i ran a DWC 5 gallon Unit i added alomost .75 Fluid Ounces of Base, but u gotta work them up to it. Watch ur PPMs and make sure they dont spike. Nice and steady. lol. If u see FirtBurn on the tips of the Old FanLeaves u know ur bout where u need to be. (littleLess) lol.

Good work Weedgirl.

Peace,
S i R

 

[tokinupon1]

Your fine with the Micro just telling you my experience I've never used the micro allways went 2 part. Maybe something to try if you don't have success with the micro. The voodoo I can tell you go light on it the stuff iTs wicked expensive and a little goes a long way. It really seems to kick ass with some carbo load but it gets growing fast if you have any light getting to the res or chambers. Check your sprayers regularly although I noticed by the mid flower cycle it's really mostly a nft system not really a aero cause the roots are way to big. Good luck and looks like it's a good thing you didnt have 100% success on the cuttings cAuse you would be over grown.

 

[nuttso]

you used a pyretherin based product. you need to apply it 2 times in 7 day period. it's not an ovacide so it won't kill the eggs. watch for those mites.

 

[420alldaze]

wow,what up weedgirl? dont know how i missed this one in the pas? lookin sweet.nice clean setup, good luck with tha bugs. peacentreez

 

[weedgirl]

@ SiR
A guy using this system told me that I could use Voodoo without a problem, but others have said that I may get a problem with roots clogging up the chambers, but I will give it a try. Maybe cut down a little on it in the next feeding cycles.

I will up the micro/bloom/grow during the flower period.

@ tokinupon1
I used micro/bloom/grow before with great success. Can you give me an example product for that "carbo load"? Does advanced Nuets make something like that?

About the sprayers, I think this is more or less a NFT system already. The sprayers are all running, but all the roots can reach the bottom of the chambers anyway. I don't have light shining directly in to my reservoir, but it is not 100% sealed. There are no roots in the reservoir tho, and I plan to keep it that way.

If i had a 100% success with the clones, I would have turned them to 12/12 allot sooner.

@ nuttso
I did spray the clones 3 times in 10 days, and then dipped them all one by one when transplanting them. I am fairly confident that I got rid of all mites/eggs.

@ 420alldaze
Thank you :)

 

[nuttso]

@ nuttso
I did spray the clones 3 times in 10 days, and then dipped them all one by one when transplanting them. I am fairly confident that I got rid of all mites/eggs.

I would spray them from now on every 3 days with cold pressed neem and a wetting agent or just some dish soap. You can do this till week 4. I used pyretherin too. Mine came back after 25 days and it was to late in flower to do anything about them. Sometimes you only can escape when using some akarazid like abermectin or forbid 4f. Btw the dipping was a good idea. When i have small infested ones i always dip.

 

[weedgirl]

Day 8 of flower - Week 2 feed

Upped the food a little and gave them some more cal/mag than week1. But other then that, it's pretty much the same. I still cant test the PH as my meter is broken, but i am using RO water and AN products only, so hopefully it's not an issue.

And some pictures from today.

 

[StrikeitRich]

looking good.

just make sure the canapy stays nice and even.

GREAT WORK weedgirl.

Rock on.

Peace,
S i R

 

[weedgirl]

just make sure the canapy stays nice and even.
S i R

What ???

 

[StrikeitRich]

THE canapy of ur plants.

THE TOPS OF THEM.

U want to make sure that they are all ...about... the same highth... That way the Square footage, or FootPrint, of ur lights will stay consistent and not get any plants eating up all ur lumen output. makes sure u get good growth all around ur canapy.

Kinda the reason u put the screen in right. I meen i know its there to help support the plants too, but u can also use it to level out the canapy when they really get to stretching out.

I'm not saying its uneven now by anymeens. It looks solid. but u dont want it to get outa control is all i was saying.

U probably already know that though so im just rambling probably. lol.


Where are u at? not the US i am assuming..?

so u may be messuring differently probably meters not feet. lol. so it would be ur meterprint. lol. jk jk. lol.

Ur probably very excited to be getting buds right? Can u get any close ups of them flowering how long have u been at 12hrs light 12 hrs dark now?


Peace,
S i R

 

[weedgirl]

I am on day 9 of 12/12 so there is no bud porn yet.

They are a pure Indica strain so I hope they will stop stretching soon. I am using the net now, to keep some of the tallest ones down a little.

No I am in Europe and using centimeters and meters :)

 

[Crysmatic]

frankly, the whole world uses SI, except the U.S. :) They will eventually see the light.

Mystre.pharmer has a great thread with DIY (do it yourself, ie. home made) NFT. He uses GH flora nova bloom aka Lucas formula. His pruning method is also really critical. He's growing a G13 x HP x NL in a similar system to yours. hth

With 1800 W you'll want to add another 150L reservoir. Your pH and ppm will fluctuate much less - less work, happier grower, and happier plants :) imo, you're asking for trouble with bacteria and organic matter (sugar). Your EC could be 1.9-2.0, and you're doing a great job!

 

[StrikeitRich]

frankly, the whole world uses SI, except the U.S. :) They will eventually see the light.

THIS i know. And is why i stated that. lol.

FUzzING AMERICAN BULLYS. lol and no they wont ever see that they are doing anything wrong u forget AMERICA's GOVERNMENT thinks they are KINGS. lol.

Peace,
S i R

 

[soserthc1]

The moms
I have 3 mother plants grown from (G13+Hash plant Sensi seeds) seeds (i had 5 but one was male and one got spider mites). They are under a 400w MH on 18/6h light in 40 liter bubbles with reverse osmosis water and 1ml. pr. liter of adcance nutrients. (micro/bloom/grow). Water PH is held between 5.5 and 6.0. I have a big round air stone in each bubbler and a heavy air pump going 24/7.

The clones
I took 63 clones about 10 days ago, they all seem to be doing well and about 8 of them have roots showing. They are in 2 aeroponic propagators in rock wool with a foam collar, under a 400w MH (my 100w florescent drowned). No nutrients, except 1ml. rooting accelerator pr. liter of water (RO water) and the clones are dipped in rooting hormone before stuck in the rock wool. Water PH is kept between 5.5 and 6.0 but have been between 6.5 and 7.5 till yesterday. I expect them all to have roots in a few days, and I will move them to the Aeroflo 60 then.

The grow
I hope to fill out all 60 sites and hopefully all my clones are female (I am positive about all except the 17 clones from mother plant #5). I will only veg them for a few days in the Aeroflo to keep them small, and start flowing then. (that will be day1 of diary).

I will be using Reverse Osmosis water with the "Expert Grower plan" from advance nutrients. Lights will be 2 x 600w HpS on the sides and a 400w HpS in the center (Adjustawing reflectors). I will keep posting picture updates and keep a detailed log on water PH and EC as well.

I have a net to go over the Aeroflo, I just need to build a frame for it. I am considering setting up some reflective material on the walls, but I am not certain I will get that done for this grow (I am not very handy with building stuff).

I have been running a "dry" run on the Aeroflo for about 10 days with tap water, and it seems to be running smoothly. I was told to make some sort of filter for the water pump to make sure the spray nozzles does not clog up with bit's of roots and whatnot, but I don't really know how to go about doing that.

Side notes
All power outlets and electric equipment is mounted way above the floor in case of flooding (high risk basement). The airflow in the room is fairly good with an intake in the door and the air being blown out the chimney vent. I don't think I need a filter for the smell this way, but I have one just in case. I will have 4 fans set up and 3 of them rotating. The basement has recently been flooded so I have lots of spiders and mosquitoes and I can´t really seem to get rid of them. I still need to clean a few rooms down there tho.

Expectations
Anything less then 1 kilo will be disappointing. I hope to get between 1.4 and 1.6 with the 1800w lights. This is my first time growing this strain and in this setup so I can´t be to sure about the yield. (fingers crossed). What i really hope is to steer clear of disaster.

Anyway that is it for now, I will post an update with new pictures once I move the clones to the Aeroflo. Any hint's, help, advice, suggestions, criticism, reminders or questions are very welcome. I make this diary mainly as a source of input and advice for any complications or problems I may run in to. (plus to show off my grow of course) :D

Ps. I hope to get some Co2 equipment some day, but I have a limit to how much power I can draw, and I think getting a Co2 system will require me to get an air condition too.

shouldn't all clones be female from mother plant ??

 

[StrikeitRich]

shouldn't all clones be female from mother plant ??

yes???? why u ask?

 

[weedgirl]

With 1800 W you'll want to add another 150L reservoir. Your pH and ppm will fluctuate much less - less work, happier grower, and happier plants :) imo, you're asking for trouble with bacteria and organic matter (sugar). Your EC could be 1.9-2.0, and you're doing a great job!

Can you explain the logic behind this? How would I add another 150L reservoir and what difference would that do?

Why am I asking for trouble about organic matter (sugar) ?


@ soserthc1
My problem was that when i turned some clones to 12/12 to test their sex before taking all my clones for this grow, one of them died before I could tell the sex. So in short i did not know the sex of one of my mother plants. If it turns out that plant is male, I will have to kill off 1/4 of my plants + the mother plant they came from (witch is now budding under a 400w as well), but I don't think they are males. It's a bit early to tell maybe, i don´t know.

Ps.
The metric system is the only way to go. Ask science :)

 

[tokinupon1]

Reason he suggests using a bigger res. When you have 60 plants feeding off of one res your going to see big changes in ph and ec daily. This becomes a serious pain in the ass checking and adjusting thing constantly. So with a bigger res it's easier to control cause more water = more nutes and less swing.

With your unknown male/female you have the mothers and they look a little older so they should be showing pre flowers do a search on pre flowers. Then check and you should be able to tell from the mommas