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Good day to you,

I'm new growing and found your post very helpful, i live in Venezuela, dont have quick access to products, but i bought all my stuff on the web and shipped it here, i bought the flora trio and have autoflowering 8 week seeds planted outdoors on 50/50 coco perlite, i planted straight on the pots 3 days ago, two have popped up and one is on its way. what i would greatly appreciate help with given your knowledge is if you could point me in the right direction regarding the flora trios 8 week schedule. attached is a 8 week feeding schedule based on their 11 week chart wich is also attached.

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ok guys I am back with the first installment of this thread and seeing as you want the best out of yours Tnelz I will start with a quick explanation of the lifecycle of auto flowering plants and then move on to the best growing methods.

LIFECYCLE OF AN AUTO

A common question I see is when to switch autos from veg to bloom. Many people are under the impression that as soon as they see the first flowers it's time to switch. Perhaps a little explanation of the life cycle of autos will help to clarify this.

Weeks 1 - 3. Once you've started your seeds and they break the surface of the soil, they are in their seedling stage. The first set of leaves to appear will usually single fingered, followed by a second set that may still be single fingered or perhaps 3 fingered. Once that second set appears growth will start to accelerate as the new leaves provide more photosynthesis. This process will continue, more new leaves, faster growth. Depending on the type of soil in use, mild vegetative nutes can be introduced at week 2. By week 3 most plants will start to show their sex. Males will start to produce pollen sacks and females will display pistils.

Weeks 4 - 6. The plants are now entering a pre flowering stage. During this time the plants should exhibit explosive growth, often as much as a new set of nodes and 1" vertical growth a day. This is the time when they will gain most of their vertical height. Many people make the mistake of switching from vegetative to flowering nutrients at this point, assuming that since they see flowers it must be the proper time. This is incorrect. If the switch to flowering nutes is made at this time the vertical growth will stop and the plant will put it's energy into producing buds. If you need to keep your plants small, or want them to finish earlier, they by all means switch nutes at this point. But if you want to get the most out of your plants continue feeding vegetative nutes until you see the vertical growth slow and stop. Depending on the strain that will usually be sometime during week 5 or 6.

Weeks 7 - 9. By now vertical growth has stopped and the switch to flowering nutrients has been made. The buds will start to fill out and put on weight, becoming hard and tight. Pistols will start to change from white to brown, orange, red, etc. By now the plants will also have developed a strong smell. Toward the end of this phase the large primary and smaller secondary fan leaves will begin to turn yellow. This is an indication that the plant is moving toward the end of it's life.

Weeks 10 - 11. At this time flowering nutes should be discontinued and only plain pHed water fed to flush the remaining nutrients from the soil and improve the taste. Yellowing of the fan leaves will continue as the plant draws the stored energy from them. Eventually they will die and fall off. By the time that the smaller leaves that come from out of the buds will also start to turn yellow. Then it's time to harvest.

I know that many of you are thinking that the seed bank said the plants will finish in 8-9 weeks, so why are you saying they take 10-11? The claims made by the seed banks are somewhat deceptive. If you switch to flowering nutes at week 3 or 4 the plants can finish in the times the seed banks say but they will remain small and not reach their full potential yield. Years of growing by myself and others has shown that autos do best if you follow this time line.

Of course, there will always be variations depending on the strain, the environment, nutrients, etc. This information is meant to only serve as a general guideline.
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Hey there Vzla... Be careful feeding them anything for the 1st 2wks.. Auto's are a totally different beast of a plant and hitting them with strong nutrients like a regular photo period plant may cause stunting early on.. start off with 1/4 of what is recommended at by the vendor.. work your way up slowly to 1/2 and by the end of grow to 3/4. With Auto's, sometimes less is more.. watch the leaf tips for any burn, if you see any stop feeding for a week.. take good notes to see what works well for you in your outdoor climate.. and remember, Auto's will show sex in about 14-21 days and start flowering no matter the light cycle.. so you could get 2-3 grows in this summer.
watch them for Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies.. should be able to find natural home remedies on both... like eggshells for Calcium... be sure to rinse them clean, remove the skin off inner shell and just grind them up and sprinkle on soil top before watering... I wish you the best and anymore questions this post them here.. I'm not the best grower but have 12yrs experience and on my 3rd Auto Flowering grow and have learned quite a bit already... the fun is in the search my friend.. grow on..
 
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Thanks for your reply. It truly cleared some of my doubts. Regarding the 8 week feeding chart I made forgetting I planned to start on the first week Should I start feeding at the second or the third a 1/4 strenght working myself up to 3/4 on the 7th week (if my ladies take the nuts well) on the 8th week should I still flush with water to clean them?
I plan on keeping an eye on for deficiencies. First I need to investigate witch are they since this is my first grow and I'm still learning.
what I really needed was a detailed 8 week feeding chart with the flora trio, guess I have to play it by ear following the 1/4 to 3/4 from second or third week?.
 
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Hey there Vzla... Be careful feeding them anything for the 1st 2wks.. Auto's are a totally different beast of a plant and hitting them with strong nutrients like a regular photo period plant may cause stunting early on.. start off with 1/4 of what is recommended at by the vendor.. work your way up slowly to 1/2 and by the end of grow to 3/4. With Auto's, sometimes less is more.. watch the leaf tips for any burn, if you see any stop feeding for a week.. take good notes to see what works well for you in your outdoor climate.. and remember, Auto's will show sex in about 14-21 days and start flowering no matter the light cycle.. so you could get 2-3 grows in this summer.
watch them for Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies.. should be able to find natural home remedies on both... like eggshells for Calcium... be sure to rinse them clean, remove the skin off inner shell and just grind them up and sprinkle on soil top before watering... I wish you the best and anymore questions this post them here.. I'm not the best grower but have 12yrs experience and on my 3rd Auto Flowering grow and have learned quite a bit already... the fun is in the search my friend.. grow on..
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Hey Quagmire,

based on your reply i changed my feeding schedule to this, can you please tell me if i'm in the right direction.

Many thanks,
 

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Of course this will be strain dependent, but I'd say your getting very close for sure. Probably want to not start off with matching the grow with bloom and don't start off so hard. I've learned thru just 2 grows that these Auto's don't need much at all to grow very well.. and of course, this is VERY dependent on what soil your using.. I've had to really adjust mine to the plant big time.. what soil you using?
Roots Organics has almost everything my plants need other then adding some Epsom Salt when I start seeing a calmag def as it covers the Magnesium it needs.. let me find you an exact amount as it's either 1tsp or 1tbls per gallon ok.. man, I really need to start writing shit down as I get older... lol. But your on the right track ok.. best of luck bro..
 
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Ok, I am in Venezuela, there are no packaged premium soil, the only soil we can get here would be cheap soil. I mixed 50/50 coco- perlite. Flushed it with 6.5 ph water before planting my seeds. Yesterday morning I moved my seedlings to a 4x 4 grow tent with a 400 watt virtual sun hps.
thanks for helping me man.
 
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You should be good, I would've flushed my coco with 5.8 Ph and then precharged it with calcium and nutes, remember coco and soil are diffrent and how they release nutrients is also different.
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Thanks for the advice. I will be applying to what you said on my next grow. nice chart.

Good day
 
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Hey guys,

As you know this is my first grow, i enjoy my fair amount of shatter witch i make with very low grade bud so i can get what i want from it so i got around to putting a tent together at my house and am very paranoid with this 4 x 4 (1,20 meters foyr me)contraption sitting at my "home office" but what the hell, there's no way to get decent bud here and i paid for this priviledge. might as well compromise to it. also mistakes are being made, now my light cycle is 20/4. is this efficient? i've followed some bad advice on the web and ended up setting my lamp too close to my plants for two days at 4"(photo attached with yellowish leaf and also "helped" a seedling out of it's shell casing and messed him up good. should i give up on it? (photo attached of amorphous shaped seedling), the third one is perfect to my newbie eyes(also attached). I would like to know if the fan connected to my carbon filter with a duct that also goes through my lamp to cool it should be left on 24/7 as i'm leaving it now. the lamp turns off and the fan satys on. is this the propper way to do this? or should i plug it to the light timer?
Found a chart also attached with the right height for lamps based on wattage and raised it up to 18 " since i am running a 400 w Virtual sun.

I think that cover my newly attained doubts. But this here is golden, growing your own...man now that feels real good. Makes all this paranoia be worthwhile.

Good night.

Peace.
 

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here's the one i think its messed up. Forgot to upload it.
I also forgot to ask how often to water it, they dry up very quick, so i am watering them daily, at lights out i enter with a green light and water them.
 

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How deep are the black pots, you should pull them out of small black pot and put directly in bigger pots. They will not get good side roots out of smaller pots,just str8 down and then try to spread out. These plants need all the help you can give .put them directly in bigger pots and you will not need to water daily.
I just leave a circulating fan on at all times, do not run an exhaust fan,yet.
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How deep are the black pots, you should pull them out of small black pot and put directly in bigger pots. They will not get good side roots out of smaller pots,just str8 down and then try to spread out. These plants need all the help you can give .put them directly in bigger pots and you will not need to water daily.
I just leave a circulating fan on at all times, do not run an exhaust fan,yet.
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Hey ,

Thanks for the advice . The small pots bottoms where cutter out. That'ts something I found on my investigation it accounts for a better root system . Don't know if it works yet, testing it out. My exhaust fan helps with cooling the lamp do you really think I sholb be turning it off?
I will be putting a regular fan inside as you advice, that helps them develop a stronger stem..right?

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VzlaDabber said:
Hey ,

Thanks for the advice . The small pots bottoms where cutter out. That'ts something I found on my investigation it accounts for a better root system . Don't know if it works yet, testing it out. My exhaust fan helps with cooling the lamp do you really think I sholb be turning it off?
I will be putting a regular fan inside as you advice, that helps them develop a stronger stem..right?

Night.
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also it said that I just have to water the small pots for the first 14 days. Down the first seven tomorrow. Then I water the whole pot. What do you think about the plants in my pics and my doubts regarding them on my previous post?
 
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The first pics look fine,the last one you can just let ride and see what happens.if no improvement in 2-3days then it probably won't snap back.
What seeds are you running?
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just checked my tent and its on the 4 hour lights off cycle. the humidity was at 69% and 73 F. I am leaving my extractor fan on...will this have something to do with it or is it ok for the humidity level to rise like that on lights off cycle?
 
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The first pics look fine,the last one you can just let ride and see what happens.if no improvement in 2-3days then it probably won't snap back.
What seeds are you running?
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running 1 critical ++, 1 auto-mistery,1 auto-one. they're from a place called www.seedslandia.com.es, in Spain, the only three autos they carry. I will be hopefully getting some nice seeds from Herbies on wednesday, i plan on having at least 12 honeys in the tent at once so i can make my extracts and have some decent bud
 
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Yes common,what's humidity in tent with lights on? Do you have a humidifier going? If no humidifier is on ,then I would leave exhaust going,not a problem now but when flowering it could be a problem.
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running 1 critical ++, 1 auto-mistery,1 auto-one. they're from a place called www.seedslandia.com.es, in Spain, the only three autos they carry. I will be hopefully getting some nice seeds from Herbies on wednesday, i plan on having at least 12 honeys in the tent at once so i can make my extracts and have some decent bud
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i couldn't help but feel all Walter whitish when i took my tent from its cover and had all together in less than an hour, the simplicity amazes
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Yes common,what's humidity in tent with lights on? Do you have a humidifier going? If no humidifier is on ,then I would leave exhaust going,not a problem now but when flowering it could be a problem.
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Humidity goes from 40 to 50% lights on. So you would suggest hooking exhaust fan to timer also?turninf off at lights out? what kind of trouble would be caused by this?
 
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Yes common,what's humidity in tent with lights on? Do you have a humidifier going? If no humidifier is on ,then I would leave exhaust going,not a problem now but when flowering it could be a problem.
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no humidifier, planning on adding regular fan tonight
 
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No ,if humidity rises after lights out,then you need to run exhaust fan all time. During flowering high humidity can cause mold,and bud rot.
During veg high humidity is ok. You just don't want much fluctuations in between lights on/off. Make sure it's not pointing directly at plants(fan).
 
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