Aquaman goes COCO. (Mother hunt)

[Dirtbag]

Probably because it's known that male cannabis DNA is heavily influenced by it's mothers side anyway

That, and its normally the female mom that is selected for its desirable traits initially, and thats what you're ultimately trying to reproduce in stable seed form.

 

[Grownsince95]

Thats a real thing. Breeder Steve is working in another country on that exact sort of plant. I believe it is a triploid that they have mapped some of the genetic markers for (they have $$$$$ to spend on R & D) and they have found it doesn't produce pistils, which makes it sterile and any outdoors growers dream, whether it be Cannabis or Hemp.

I've always had that conspiracy side of me that said Fems are a way to prevent people from making their own. I also think all the Selfing going on now is because of people not understanding breeding or having the time for it. They want money money money and selfing a plant is about as basic as you can get. I see why someone would do this, no shame there but I hardly consider it breeding.

But if you have pollen from a selfed female and cross to a diff strain those offspring are still F1 and are regular seeds now...or all feminized?

 

[Dirtbag]

@Dirtbag, so back when say blue dream was born, they only back crossed stuff to the female to lock in the genetics?

It was likely backcrossed once or twice, inbred for a bit, then outbred with another stable variety to introduce new dominant alleles, backcrossed again with the parent mom and then inbred further before it was producing stable seeds and could be called a true breed strain.

 

[Aqua Man]

But if you have pollen from a selfed female and cross to a diff strain those offspring are still F1 and are regular seeds now.

No they will be fem

 

[Grownsince95]

No they will be fem

Got it now yes...so much to wrap my head around its so cool...thanks everyone!!! ❤❤

 

[Dirtbag]

But if you have pollen from a selfed female and cross to a diff strain those offspring are still F1 and are regular seeds now...or all feminized?

That would make an R1 feminized seed.

 

[Dirtbag]

Great discussion but my wife has a massive honeydo list for me. Gotta pop out for a while but ill come back to this tonight!

 

[Chad.Westport]

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He is dismissing the research done on genetic markers..... but its super expensive so only a few big companies have access to that technology. He doesn't like to cook, he wants the microwave meal. If you self a female, you are far more likely to get a more homozygous crop from the offspring than if you would have crossed it to the male (as I understand it, have never done the selfing myself). Less work, shorter distance to goal. Thats fine, it could be evolution of the process. What he can do in a year for creating a homozygous line, often takes traditional breeders 6 or more years. But you also miss out on "all of the possibilities" and that rare gem that pops up.. So it's really hard to know who the smartest person in the room is.

 

[Aqua Man]

Ok @Chad.Westport or @Dirtbag can either of you point me to some good reference material?

I hate not understanding a subject and this is one I have avoided for a long time.

 

[Aqua Man]

Today's pic... dam this 3k makes these ladies and gents stretch like a mofo.

 

[Chad.Westport]

Lets start a new thread - Sorry aqua man :)

Ok @Chad.Westport or @Dirtbag can either of you point me to some good reference material?

I hate not understanding a subject and this is one I have avoided for a long time.

Probably the best place to get started is with Mendel, who through the famous Pea experiment laid out genetic inheritance -https://www.khanacademy.org/science/high-school-biology/hs-classical-genetics/hs-introduction-to-heredity/a/mendel-and-his-peas

 

[Aqua Man]

On a side note today is 2 weeks from the first sprout.

 

[Aqua Man]

Lets start a new thread - Sorry aqua man :)


Probably the best place to get started is with Mendel, who through the famous Pea experiment laid out genetic inheritance -https://www.khanacademy.org/science/high-school-biology/hs-classical-genetics/hs-introduction-to-heredity/a/mendel-and-his-peas

Thanks brother.... who want to start the breeding Q&A thread? I will if noone else wants to and tag everyone here.

 

[Chad.Westport]

Thanks brother.... who want to start the breeding Q&A thread? I will if noone else wants to and tag everyone here.

Just started it :)

 

[Aqua Man]

Just started it :)

Tha k you sir.

 

[Aqua Man]

Have you used Green Point before? :-) I just got five phenomenal seeds that I'm getting ready to drop in a couple of days

Nope first time bro... heard good things though.

 

[SacredTreeOrganicFarms]

Thanks brother.... who want to start the breeding Q&A thread? I will if noone else wants to and tag everyone here.

DOOOOOO IT!!

 

[Aqua Man]

DOOOOOO IT!!

I tagged ya in it.

 

[Dirtbag]

Ok @Chad.Westport or @Dirtbag can either of you point me to some good reference material?

I hate not understanding a subject and this is one I have avoided for a long time.

Principles of crop improvement is a good one that was recommended to me by Jeff at DF. Its an excellent read.

I've been reading Clark's book too. And my kids grade 10 intro to genetics class material also... lol

 

[Aqua Man]

Principles of crop improvement is a good one that was recommended to me by Jeff at DF. Its an excellent read.

I've been reading Clark's book too. And my kids grade 10 intro to genetics class material also... lol

Awesome is there freebie or do I need to order?