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beluga · Dec 9, 2020

Day 39 Fleur

Welp. It wasn't the powder-coated massacre that I was envisioning all day at work waiting for me to return.
In fact... nothing at all.
Second time scouring every leaf, stem, and bud... nothing!
Here's that afflicted area today

Maybe my snow prayers worked their magic...
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So...
Humidity in tent - 57%
Outside of tent and rest of house - ~41%
Temperature around the house - 63F-67F
Temperature in the basement - 65F
Temperature in tent - 73F
Outside temperature - 29F
So!
My previous theory about my basement maintaining pretty stable temperature is probably correct.
However, I'm almost certain that that 57% inside the tent, lights on, will probably go up quite a bit, lights off. Especially as that temperature drops those 8 degrees... perhaps more. We'll see tomorrow.
In the meantime, I've put a dehumidifier and more powerful standing oscillating fan and also bumped up my exhaust fan's CFM.
Here's hoping!
Either way... I'm on guard

Allow me to revel in my hollow victory...

SEED!

BudGoodman · Dec 9, 2020

Thank goodness!
Looking spectacular!

beluga · Dec 10, 2020

So, here's another consideration that I just thought of for my PM/environment issue:

No, not my cat's little powdered toast face.
Nor the PBP.
But the exhaust behind it all...

So, although I'm venting out of the top, I'm not actually venting the uppermost air.
In fact, I'm probably creating a really weird kind of 〰〰 up/down current that may or may not be drawing the warm, moist air out from the top of the tent.
The passive intakes are varied - one big one up top, one big and one small down below. But I imagine the current is probably dipping down to the floor right at the front of my plant canopy.

Basically, I would surmise that I'm creating a pocket in that back and uppermost area of the canopy that does not see adequate ventilation.
So, I'm gonna mount that when I get home... as I should have done when I set up the tent.
I mounted my thermohygrometer up toward the middletop of the tent, too. So, that should give me a good indication of the effectiveness of the exhaust repositioning.

Aqua Man · Dec 10, 2020

beluga said:
So, here's another consideration that I just thought of for my PM/environment issue:

No, not my cat's little powdered toast face.
Nor the PBP.
But the exhaust behind it all...

So, although I'm venting out of the top, I'm not actually venting the uppermost air.
In fact, I'm probably creating a really weird kind of 〰〰 up/down current that may or may not be drawing the warm, moist air out from the top of the tent.
The passive intakes are varied - one big one up top, one big and one small down below. But I imagine the current is probably dipping down to the floor right at the front of my plant canopy.
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Basically, I would surmise that I'm creating a pocket in that back and uppermost area of the canopy that does not see adequate ventilation.
So, I'm gonna mount that when I get home... as I should have done when I set up the tent.
I mounted my thermohygrometer up toward the middletop of the tent, too. So, that should give me a good indication of the effectiveness of the exhaust repositioning.

What I try to shoot for in a tent or small square room is a cyclone type action at the base and through the plants. Can be a simple as 1-2 fans pointed at the wall making like a toilet bowl action of air movement. This will keep the air mixed well then the exhaust pulls the mixed air up and out.

Many ways to skin a cat though.

MIMedGrower · Dec 10, 2020

Agree with @Aqua Man creating an upward vortex with circulation fans will sort out the stale air.

also only bring in intake air from down low and exhaust up high.

beluga · Dec 10, 2020

Aqua Man said:
What I try to shoot for in a tent or small square room is a cyclone type action at the base and through the plants. Can be a simple as 1-2 fans pointed at the wall making like a toilet bowl action of air movement. This will keep the air mixed well then the exhaust pulls the mixed air up and out.

Many ways to skin a cat though.

MIMedGrower said:
Agree with @Aqua Man creating an upward vortex with circulation fans will sort out the stale air.

also only bring in intake air from down low and exhaust up high.

That makes sense. I have the oscillating guy where its A and B points are hitting opposite walls and then that above clip-on guy pushing air down... which probably isn't the best, either. But I feel like that's just creating a whirl that doesn't drain to the right place right now..
I think my reasoning behind the up high intake was just to bring in some warmer air..

I'll make some adjustments this evening.
Thanks, captains!

MIMedGrower · Dec 10, 2020

beluga said:
That makes sense. I have the oscillating guy where its A and B points are hitting opposite walls and then that above clip-on guy pushing air down... which probably isn't the best, either. But I feel like that's just creating a whirl that doesn't drain to the right place right now..
I think my reasoning behind the up high intake was just to bring in some warmer air..

I'll make some adjustments this evening.
Thanks, captains!

if i grow in my basement in winter i will need to bring in warmer air from above. But i will still have circulation fans properly mixing the air inside the space.

We still have to do what is needed. Parameters are just guidelines to follow.

Aqua Man · Dec 10, 2020

beluga said:
That makes sense. I have the oscillating guy where its A and B points are hitting opposite walls and then that above clip-on guy pushing air down... which probably isn't the best, either. But I feel like that's just creating a whirl that doesn't drain to the right place right now..
I think my reasoning behind the up high intake was just to bring in some warmer air..

I'll make some adjustments this evening.
Thanks, captains!

2 key things

1. Cyclone

2. Leaves transpire from the bottom side so we want to have the majority of the air movment under and through the canopy. Typically when you see ppl using it above its to remove or reduce heat from the light.

Exhaust at the top intake at the bottom so that airflow is drawing air up towards the bottom of the leaves. If your blowing it down from the top the leaves act as hydrofoil in a sense and you get less direct contact of air and the bottom side of the leaf thats more likely to create microclimates. But if you have that cyclone action under and through then it should be ok either way. Ideally flow bottom to top though.

I know explanation is to in depth but thats just me lol.

beluga · Dec 10, 2020

MIMedGrower said:
if i grow in my basement in winter i will need to bring in warmer air from above. But i will still have circulation fans properly mixing the air inside the space.

We still have to do what is needed. Parameters are just guidelines to follow.

For sure.
Now that I'm actually monitoring things, I'll be able to really see how much I actually need to do things like bring in warmer air, etc.

Aqua Man said:
I know explanation is to in depth but thats just me lol.

No such thing here. I appreciate it and do my best to vacuum up every bit.

beluga · Dec 10, 2020

Day 40 Fleur

RH% Hi - 57% / Lo - 43% (I think that Lo was from my house)
Temp Hi - 71°F Lo - 63°F (Again, I think from my house)
24hr Hi/Lo's were the same... So I gotta address that.

Still haven't done any support maintenance... it's daunting and I'll probably do it once I have more time on the weekend.

Still a lot of that... aroma-wise.
Skunk seems to be coming through a little stronger and more upfront.
Wonder if it's still the Epsom salt addition...

SeeeeeEEeds!

That last pic there is, again, the PM afflicted one. Still doing well.
There are two others that I cannot locate... luckily I put some purple twist ties on them.

Huzzah!
Time to make some Tom Kha Gai

beluga · Dec 10, 2020

Quiet over here... like draping a cozy blanket over your head...
Or a campfire with a blanket of driven snow through the silhouettes of naked trees...
Ramen noodle bowl...

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Hope you all are having a cozy evening.

beluga · Dec 11, 2020

Just zenning myself out before playing marionette with my plants....
I could listen to shamisen played like this all day.

Falls in line with them campfire feels.
A lot like some outlaw country guitar or bluegrass banjo pickin'...
Or the sitar in raga.
Or the kora of Africa.

Music is, time and time again, such a magically impressive gateway to the human soul. The oneness of us all.
Oughta un-stupid my fingers one of these days..
Trek the world with the universal language...

beluga · Dec 12, 2020

(Yester)Day 41 Fleur

Temp Hi/Lo - 73°F/68°F
Rh% Hi/Lo - 56%/43%
... I'll take it.
No further PM development.
I'll take that, too.

After steaming, scraping, plastering, fastening, adhering, compounding, spackling, and amounts of sanding over the past couple months...
I managed to finally paint a room in my house! Luckily it's the biggest room that had the most fucked walls.
But that also means I didn't string up my plants, and is also the reason I'm reporting yesterday to you today. Also means I need to mount my filter. Also...
Will need to zen myself out again...

beluga · Dec 12, 2020

Week 6 Fleur
Welp. Strung 'em up with just barely enough time to spare before lights out.
Thought I could make it out of doing anything in my house without it opening a can of worms?
Pfftt!! You dumb, beluga.
Went to peel up the low-tack painter's tape that I had securing some drop-cloth (paper) to the hardwood and sure the fuck enough it peeled up huge strips of the urethane or whatever TF the jackass who sold us this place used to "seal" the floors...
So I spent another 6 hours scraping, sanding, sealing, yada, yada, yada.
Do it right, right? Looks like my spring project will be refinishing some hardwood.

Aaanyway... puppetmastering.
Before

After

I'm kinda schmeh about it.
Almost wish I'd just left 'em alone.. don't think they'd tip it in another 3 weeks... but... knowing my luck, it'd bite me in the ass, had I.
More so wish I'd just done it sooner so they could readjust and fill out a little more naturally... but.. any manipulation looks whack when you first do it... I'm sure they'll settle it out soon enough. They've probably got more like four weeks left as opposed to the 60-day breeder claim.

This is nice, however.

Damn near spot-on to my light's footprint

This is not nice, however

I do not like nylon strings and junk bungling up a good picture.
Probably would feel better about some hemp twine.
Their functionality and convenience is fucking magical though, so, I'll get over myself.

Had to quick snap budshots... shmeh.

Seeds make me happy though.
So, fucking mazel tov!!

Oh right, happy Hanukkah!

beluga · Dec 13, 2020

Day 43 Fleur

Cleaned everything up... mounted my scrubber... got the canopy tidied... vortex circulation going on...

I think we're all set for finishing up here...

Even have the legroom for an oft not seen angle now...

Through and through

Thought this was kinda cool...
Deep under the canopy...

Little lady just feelin' them nook vibes...
Mmph. I wanna feel some nook vibes...

BudGoodman · Dec 13, 2020

Looks fantastic!

MIMedGrower · Dec 13, 2020

That is a super nice plant!

beluga · Dec 13, 2020

Thanks fellers!

Getting too preoccupied with the offspring, I might have accidentally botched the mother .
Brought her over to a veg tent and plugged all the lights in
So, I'm thinking I'll have to take a clone and reveg it cause I'm pretty damn happy with these traits... especially if I work them better next time around... thinking maybe three per 2ft x 4ft footprint will probably fill it out really well without overcrowding. Either that or lollipop... which I'm not terribly fond of.

Or I might just run with the seeds

BudGoodman · Dec 13, 2020

Why not both?

beluga · Dec 13, 2020

BudGoodman said:
Why not both?

Oh, right...
I do have another light in the works...
I legit kind of forgot that's not just for the fun of building another light

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