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+1You need to seriously consider the Gavita 1700e's.......... but whatever you buy, make sure they are waterproof, are dimmable in some fashion, have a 5 year warranty, have internal hooks to hang and you have a plan to add some UVB the last few weeks of flowering to increase resin. The below pic View attachment 1062827is the LED in a 4 X 4 area.........
Yeah the thing with buying LEDs is its sooooooo easy for the manufacturers to play with the charts and the numbers to manipulate people. Im not saying the LightGeek company is illegitimate that I do not know yet because I haven't researched them, they very well could be the real deal. Many other company's I have come across (especially on Amazon/Ebay) will put up a bunch of fancy charts with colors showing light spread. Some use Lux, some use PAR, some use micro Jules ratings. So many ways to measure light that it seems like no matter how shitty a light is a marketing guy can configure the charts in a way to make it "appear" to be great but then they are just mediocre. This has happened to me before especially when purchasing smaller LEDs. I want to purchase something that is absolutely tried and trued with no gimmicks and a 100% guarantee its gonna be flame. Im leaning towards either Scorpion Diablo or Gavita. Gonna check out a few more reviews.Actually, when you read them the chart- you are only getting one measure, which is Par output per Dollar. That was their aim, and you have the results. But much more is missing, like is the LED cooled by passive means or heatsinks, is it a large or smaller unit for proper coverage, what’s the complete spectrum, what quality diodes are used, warranty, waterproof, etc., etc.
Go just off the chart, I guarantee you will be disappointed in the long run. I’m not trying to tell you to buy one over the other- you just need to be better informed on all the variables to make the best decision.
Both of those are excellent lights, the HLG is better IMO. If you take a look at both of these companies there list Umol's. This is the best present way to measure the overall effective use of the light. The Gavita is putting out about 1700 Umols per second and the HLG is putting out 1900 Umols per second. So the HLG is overall a better grow light in that area. The other thing to take into consideration is spectrum which you can drive yourself crazy with this stuff. IMO it would be best to just pick one. Also you should consider your grow environment with lights this powerful. Temperature, humidity and CO2 all need to be taken into account with such lights.Yeah the thing with buying LEDs is its sooooooo easy for the manufacturers to play with the charts and the numbers to manipulate people. Im not saying the LightGeek company is illegitimate that I do not know yet because I haven't researched them, they very well could be the real deal. Many other company's I have come across (especially on Amazon/Ebay) will put up a bunch of fancy charts with colors showing light spread. Some use Lux, some use PAR, some use micro Jules ratings. So many ways to measure light that it seems like no matter how shitty a light is a marketing guy can configure the charts in a way to make it "appear" to be great but then they are just mediocre. This has happened to me before especially when purchasing smaller LEDs. I want to purchase something that is absolutely tried and trued with no gimmicks and a 100% guarantee its gonna be flame. Im leaning towards either Scorpion Diablo or Gavita. Gonna check out a few more reviews.
Tha gavita is not top of the line. It’s good but not great. Bad build quality, it has a bad par spread as well. The luxx led has the same par spread and it only has 6 bars and costs like $200 less. Hlg and scynce are definitely the top. I don’t think anyone can compete with scynce and their lenses/spectrum control. I had to replace my gavita 3 times out of the box because they were broke out of the gateAs it sits right now the gavita 1700e or the scorpion diablo... both 5x5.
The scorpion diablo is about 10% more efficient than any other light on the market. I would say the gavita can be run closer and a slightly better spread. Both do extremely well at 12-24" above canopy and both will perform even better under co2.
The HLG comes with a dimmer and needs nothing else added.
The gavita will need a controller to dim.
You can't go wrong with either of those.
The gavita will keep plants a tad more squat than the HLG because of the spectral difference.
Both are amazing lights compared to anything else.
Read my last post you couldn't be more wrongTha gavita is not top of the line. It’s good but not great. Bad build quality, it has a bad par spread as well. The luxx led has the same par spread and it only has 6 bars and costs like $200 less. Hlg and scynce are definitely the top. I don’t think anyone can compete with scynce and their lenses/spectrum control. I had to replace my gavita 3 times out of the box because they were broke out of the gate
Which gavita? And you do realize lens reduce UV and overall efficacy right?Tha gavita is not top of the line. It’s good but not great. Bad build quality, it has a bad par spread as well. The luxx led has the same par spread and it only has 6 bars and costs like $200 less. Hlg and scynce are definitely the top. I don’t think anyone can compete with scynce and their lenses/spectrum control. I had to replace my gavita 3 times out of the box because they were broke out of the gate
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