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They're called selection methodologies.
You can use selection skills to recreate simplistic cultivars like blue dream.
Do tell, what makes a cultivar 'simplistic' vs 'complicated'? It sounds like you know of some special distinction that is unknown to agricultural professionals the world over.
LoL, do you believe everything you read?
So through the process of selection.... why don't you tell me how the crossing of a select haze hybrid with a select blueberry cultivar, to create a Blue Dream terpene-profile & growth structure.... is not simplistic?
That's elementary shit compared to something like GG4. If you try recreating GG4 with Chemdog's Sister/Sour dubb/Choc diesel, you'll be in for a long wait before you find the right combination (but it might take 3 or 4 lifetimes first).
That's a great point, man. There's no way seed breeders would just go and lie, on the internet, about what genetics they're using. Silly me. XDSaid the dude who wouldn't recognize Panama Red if it was right in front of his face. Let me guess.... Chocolate Thai doesn't exist anymore either right?
Yeah, Snowhigh and Coastal are just a bunch of liars who don't know shit about landrace cultivars right? lol
Take your head out of your ass.
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Are you under the impression that if you don't know the parents of the parents then it's a 'simple' cross?
"I personally don't know what the genetics of the parents are so it must be simple!" XD
That's a great point, man. There's no way seed breeders would just go and lie, on the internet, about what genetics they're using. Silly me. XD
you'd still have to grow mountains of seeds to find an individual on the level of an elite.
Do you not understand that inbreeding causes... inbreeding depression? This is one of the most basic concepts in breeding.
Reduce vigor? Yeah ok lol
Let me know if you need some links to peer-reviewed journals which clearly demonstrate S2IBL offspring with the exact same genotype & chemotype as the parental clone.
Do you even understand what it means when you have offspring with matching chemotypes as the parent? herp derp
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Oh really? How many generations is it gonna take? Speaking of basic concepts, it looks like you gonna need some elementary schooling (note the statement on breeding depression in monacious vs dioecious lines.... then pay close attention to the part where it says "In contrast to the deleterious effects of inbreeding, hybrid vigor is frequently observed.")
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I'm not a smart man, and won't claim to be. I'm also not here to argue, but learn. That being said, am I missing something here? In the first quote you laughed at the fact that it would reduce vigor, then you share an excerpt that clearly states that it does reduce vigor?
They worded it kinda weird so I don't think we are going to agree on this. Because you may interpret it differently.The excerpt I quoted and posted a picture of didn't state anything other than the exact opposite of what is being suggested.
"hybrid vigor is frequently observed."
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3. Reduction vs. Increase in Vigour, Yield and Reproductive Ability:
Due to inbreeding there is a general reduction in vigour of the population, plants become shorter and weaker. The hybrids are generally more vigorous, healthier and increased in size. The reproductive ability also decreases in the population rapidly due to inbreeding, many lines reproduce so poorly that these cannot be maintained. The hybrids exhibiting heterosis show an increase in fertility or reproductive ability.
Inbreeding generally leads to loss in yield; the inbred lines yield much less than the open pollinated varieties from which they are derived. Heterosis is generally expressed as an increase in yield of the hybrid. Commercially this phenomenon is of great importance as an objective of plant breeding.
http://www.biologydiscussion.com/plants/inbreeding-depression-and-hybrid-vigour-plants/60850
Damn , you know whats up I see. Thx for including the citation. Will check it out. :smoking:.
Multiple-generation inbreeding is performed to reduce heterozygosity. The frequency of heterozygotes decreases by half, each generation and recessive-lethal & sub-lethal mutations are generally purged.
This inherently increases homozygosity and decreases the likelihood of within-population inbreeding-depression.
Inbreeding-depression is actually synonymous with heterosis (the tendency of a crossbred individual to show fitness advantages superior to those of both parents), as a result of overdominance and epistasis (Lynch 1991; Lynch and Walsh 1998).
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I did it if you want some nightmare gorilla hit me up 10 bucks a seedNo one is creating bluedream, we want to cross Bd with gg. Why would that be hard?
S1, from bluedream is very possible but why would one fuck with genetics of a perfectly good breed? I’m saying it’s possible, not impossible like. You mentioned.
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