Cheap alternatives to overpriced hydroponic nutrients

magic man · Jan 12, 2020

waayne said:
+1 ^^^ :pimp:

but we should ingest e coli and salmonella? fungus and bacteria from the poop you grow in?

maximusluminous · Feb 13, 2020

Chronic Monster said:
Anyone still using Jacks?

yes sir, using it & love it!

cottageman · Feb 13, 2020

Chronic Monster said:
Anyone still using Jacks?

Just switched my 12 light room over to jacks about a month ago and the plants are definitely thanking me for it!

Sonnyhad · Feb 13, 2020

cottageman said:
Just switched my 12 light room over to jacks about a month ago and the plants are definitely thanking me for it!

I just switched myself, so far so good.

cottageman · Feb 13, 2020

That plus a couple of additives and the plants really like it. I had a yellowing problem at the beginning of flower and switching to this base fixed it overnight and it’s a lot cheaper than what I was using lol

Sonnyhad · Feb 13, 2020

Is anyone using it in a rdwc sterile system?
Jacks that is.

maximusluminous · Feb 13, 2020

Sonnyhad said:
Is anyone using it in a rdwc sterile system?
Jacks that is.

Im not but I have read it works fine in RDWC or in sterile mediums

visajoe1 · Feb 13, 2020

Last run I used a liquid organic 1-1-1 throughout the grow with bloom booster in flower. Feed was never at full strength, and never encountered any deficiencies first time ever. FF Happy Frog. Total spent on nutes about $30 with over half leftover. I'll repeat this eventually

BillFarthing · Feb 13, 2020

Sonnyhad said:
Is anyone using it in a rdwc sterile system?
Jacks that is.

Yes, I ran it in Undercurrents with a little fulvic acid. The EC went from 1.0 in veg to 1.2 in flower. The top off res was half strength nutes. I never had to adjust the pH and had one of my best runs ever.

Novadoc · Feb 18, 2020

Anyone running the boosters along with monstercrop? Going to do a trial run but wondering if the bud explosion and sweet candy are neccessary.

cottageman · Feb 18, 2020

Novadoc said:
Anyone running the boosters along with monstercrop? Going to do a trial run but wondering if the bud explosion and sweet candy are neccessary.

They’re not necessary. When I used megacrop I had to add a cal mg supplement since it didn’t have enough but other than that I don’t think you need anything else. Maybe a little p boost but megacrop has a lot of k in it already for flowering

Novadoc · Feb 18, 2020

cottageman said:
They’re not necessary. When I used megacrop I had to add a cal mg supplement since it didn’t have enough but other than that I don’t think you need anything else. Maybe a little p boost but megacrop has a lot of k in it already for flowering

Awesome thanks!
I noticed they had a few boosters on their website so wanted to see if anyone was using them

You arent using megacrop anymore? Can I ask why you decided to go to something different?

cottageman · Feb 18, 2020

Novadoc said:
Awesome thanks!
I noticed they had a few boosters on their website so wanted to see if anyone was using them

You arent using megacrop anymore? Can I ask why you decided to go to something different?

The npk ratios were just a bit off for me and my plants came out healthy but not quite as healthy as when I used Jacks or Perfect Grower. Megacrop isn’t quite as complete for me as jacks is. I personally like having a 3 or 4 part nute system so I can customize it without throwing off everything else

Novadoc · Feb 18, 2020

cottageman said:
The npk ratios were just a bit off for me and my plants came out healthy but not quite as healthy as when I used Jacks or Perfect Grower. Megacrop isn’t quite as complete for me as jacks is. I personally like having a 3 or 4 part nute system so I can customize it without throwing off everything else

I was looking at Jack's too, but cost of shipping is going to kill me and having a 1 part nutrient system just seems so easy
Especially if it works
Do you mind me asking what you are using in your mix from Jack's?

cottageman · Feb 18, 2020

Novadoc said:
I was looking at Jack's too, but cost of shipping is going to kill me and having a 1 part nutrient system just seems so easy
Especially if it works
Do you mind me asking what you are using in your mix from Jack's?

Go check out Athena ag, it’s a 2 part system, tested and used by the Jungle boys and it’s in the same price range as megacrop and jacks!
For jacks I use their base at 3.4g/gal, cal-nit from customhydronutrients at 2.3g/gal and Epsom salt at 1.2g/gal. Customhydronutrients has cal nit de cheaper and they make their own jacks base and it was a bit cheaper for shipping with me! If you’re intent on trying megacrop though then go for it, it worked very well and I only used it one run and the only real negative I had with megacrop is that it smells horrible when you open the pouch lol but that’s not their fault

BillFarthing · Feb 19, 2020

Enzymes: use septic enzymes like Bio-Clean or Rid-X
pH control: pH up- potassium hydroxide is drain cleaner. pH down- Use nitric, phosphoric or sulfuric acid. ~30% sulfuric acid can be bought at the auto parts store for batteries.
Sterile reservoir: Use 4 drops of unscented laundry bleach per gallon, or 1 ml per 5 gallons instead of Clear Rez or UC Roots
Aminos: use unflavored soy or whey protein hydrolysate 1 g per 5 gallons
Humic/Fulvic acid: Use liquid smoke (pyroligneous acid, wood vinegar). It is lignin/cellulose that has been broken down with heat and condensed. There are also other beneficial organic acids in it and it protects against bugs.
Kelp: soak nori sushi wraps in water overnight and blend until smooth. Dillute until a very weak tea.

Septooth · Apr 4, 2020

Could someone please give me some advice on a feeding schedule for Mega Crop and Happy Frog soil?

I am going to plant directly into Happy Frog after germinating. The MG I have is 9-6-17. I use tap water dechlorinated and it has a PPM of 250.

I was going to feed at 1g per gallon the first week ever other watering and increase it 1g every week up to 10g. Then just stop feeding last couple weeks of flowering. But I rather have some advice.

BillFarthing · Apr 4, 2020

Septooth said:
Could someone please give me some advice on a feeding schedule for Mega Crop and Happy Frog soil?

I am going to plant directly into Happy Frog after germinating. The MG I have is 9-6-17. I use tap water dechlorinated and it has a PPM of 250.

I was going to feed at 1g per gallon the first week ever other watering and increase it 1g every week up to 10g. Then just stop feeding last couple weeks of flowering. But I rather have some advice.

Follow the feed schedule. Peak ppm week 6 of flower. Taper week 7. Flush week 8+

Septooth · Apr 24, 2020

Here is my PPM meter.... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XKMH86J#Ask

My PPM meter is open meaning no scale. I'm not sure what that means for my reading. If it's not 500 or 700 scale, what is the difference in the reading?

Mega crop says for Veg 2, 500 scale, feeding should be 555 PPM.

Mega crop says for Veg 2, 700 scale, feeding should be 777 PPM.

#1 - What would my feeding be during Veg 2 with an open scale PPM meter?

Mega Crop says "*EC is additive, so you measure your base water EC then add in the suggested amount.
For example: Base water EC .2, suggested dosage is 1.1, then final level will be 1.1 + .2 = 1.3"

My Tap water is 250P PPM.
My tap water and Happy Frog soil slurry test was 625 PPM. 625 PPM slurry minus 250 PPM tap water = Happy Frog is 375 PPM.

According to Mega Crop, if my feeding PPM is supposed to be 555 and my tap water is at 250 PPM, them my feeding should be 805 PPM.

#3 - What about the nutrients that are in my soil. From doing slurry test, the PPM of my soil seems to be 375 PPM.
Should I subtract my soil PPM from my feeding PPM only then? So it would be 805 PPM minus 375 PPM. That would be a feeding of 430 PPM for veg 2?

Beachwalker · Apr 24, 2020

Septooth said:
Here is my PPM meter.... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XKMH86J#Ask

My PPM meter is open meaning no scale. I'm not sure what that means for my reading. If it's not 500 or 700 scale, what is the difference in the reading?

Mega crop says for Veg 2, 500 scale, feeding should be 555 PPM.

Mega crop says for Veg 2, 700 scale, feeding should be 777 PPM.

#1 - What would my feeding be during Veg 2 with an open scale PPM meter?

Mega Crop says "*EC is additive, so you measure your base water EC then add in the suggested amount.
For example: Base water EC .2, suggested dosage is 1.1, then final level will be 1.1 + .2 = 1.3"

My Tap water is 250P PPM.
My tap water and Happy Frog soil slurry test was 625 PPM. 625 PPM slurry minus 250 PPM tap water = Happy Frog is 375 PPM.

According to Mega Crop, if my feeding PPM is supposed to be 555 and my tap water is at 250 PPM, them my feeding should be 805 PPM.

#3 - What about the nutrients that are in my soil. From doing slurry test, the PPM of my soil seems to be 375 PPM.
Should I subtract my soil PPM from my feeding PPM only then? So it would be 805 PPM minus 375 PPM. That would be a feeding of 430 PPM for veg 2?

That meter is 500 scale most likely, at least my yellow cheapies have been; about the rest maybe somebody familiar with mega crop could help you better, but when I used megacrop I fed 300-500 in veg & 500-800 bloom with little adjustments to each as needed, good luck

Cheap alternatives to overpriced hydroponic nutrients

Cheap alternatives to overpriced hydroponic nutrients

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