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"Also unless you have alot of room, cooltubes get in the way"
in the end cool tubes will be cheaper than a/c ,they rock even better in small areas
and don't cost that much ...but to each his own.
and if the led's rocked so would i jump on them too...
Lost said:Its not eliteist, his system is intended to be an entire system and if you start breaking it down and giving lesser, then your going to get less
Lost said:Almost every single issue I ever had directly related to me trying to cut corners. Cutting corners does not work.
Sedate - I agree with you above post. We do need to define this for ourselvs because DD's obviously connot be around anymore to offer his guidance.
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Probablly needs to be its own thread...
Hello,
I think you should still use hps/mh vertically but you should also sumplement horizontal 300-600+ LEDs. They produce no heat and can be mounted 3 inches from the top of the cieling. They would be perfect for this kind of system!
Evidence:
Here is one
http://www.invalid.com/indoor-growing/272968-300w-led-vs-1000w-hps-7.html
Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfm7XSxVPs
Boots, I totally understand where you are coming from.
On the otherhand, a med patient with a 1000 hps can produce all the herb they need for at least 6 months (1k consertively producing 1.5 pounds, smoking 1 oz a week) without MPB's.
I started with 5 gallon dwc buckets and worked my way up. Would you really reccommend a MPB for a first time grower? I would only say yes if someone has a good amount of cash saved up for it and does not mind a sharp learning curve.
Honestly, if someone had absorbed all of the info in these threads and the deleted dd's posts, then yea, you could do it, but you cannot cut corners. I guess what gets a response from me is I see people trying to cut corners to make it cheaper and smaller and then its not really a MPB anymore is it?
:)
canaguy
I think you'll be all set with cooltubes and a 12,000btu window unit, a portable waste a lot of co2.
Lost said:because DD's obviously connot be around anymore to offer his guidance
Lost said:I started with 5 gallon dwc buckets and worked my way up. Would you really reccommend a MPB for a first time grower? I would only say yes if someone has a good amount of cash saved up for it and does not mind a sharp learning curve.
Boots said:I still agree with you Lost, this is not the best system to try for a first timer. The learning curve is just too steep.
Dirty White Boy said:really shows where everyone is experience and skill wise, im surprised no one has said shut the hell up with the led talk already
My apologies....I'm acting like I'm on the rag again and can't think properly apparently.
Why? Is he gone?
This is exactly my plan - I've been a soil grower for years - but alot of that was underground so I never really bothered to invest in anything since I wasn't trying to have any sort of profile.
Agreed.
As a technical matter, I didn't think hydroponics would be difficult at all - but in practice 'steep learning curve' hardly does it justice. I can't even begin to list all the hiccups since I started. I'm usually pretty good at shit like this.
I would never, ever, under any circumstances, recommend a RDWC system even approaching this complexity without multiple grows under ones' belt - well armed with a bank account or not.
The ability to successfully plumb and construct a complicated RDWC system with thousands of dollars worth of equipment - and an abstract, technical understanding of LED's versus other lighting - have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
The adults in the room have already dropped the LED thing.
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