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So here's how I started. I'll post how they look now
Wondering how many days to get to today's recover point? I sprayed Doktor Doom Fungicide last week and I think they do look a little betterHere's where I'm at today
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If it were a bacteria, that would be easy. Unfortunately, viruses can't be eliminated
Ok. So sorry for the confusion. Daconil won't do anything for your virus. I was replying to another post about leaf spot. Viruses can not be controlled with fungicides!!! Fungicide is for fungus. Anti biotic would be for bacteria related issues. Once the plant has a virus, it can not be reversed! The K, in particular, will bolster the plants immune system. To be perfectly honest, the Si was recommended and no one can give be a great answer to why it helps. We will never solve this problem. We can only hope to mitigate it. Weekly applications of liquid P,K,Si seen to be helping me tremendously. I left a check plant just to see the efficacy of the applications, and that plant is devastated. I will post a couple pictures of some other symptoms that go along with this virus as well. You have to think about this like flu. Think about the development for a "vaccine". They spent countless money and time researching and developing something that is marginally effective. What do we do to mitigate the symptoms of flu? We try to stay healthy. Feeding the right nutrients at the right time will help mitigate this problem. With all that being said, I have a plant that just isn't responding to the K/Si applications. It seems to work on most. Do not waste your hard earned money on fungicide and garbage nutrients. I would recommend going to a turf supply company and finding solid chelated nutrients. Redox nutrients are chelated in such a manner that, even if your pH is off, the nutrients are still available to the plant. I've looked through many cannabis supply stores and the price that you are paying for some of this stuff is absolutely absurd. Between myself and my friends we have 30 plants. I fertilize them all for less than $500 with high quality turf nutrients. A plant is a plant. It's needs, in general, are all the same. I will follow up with a couple links with more information about the virus. It will amaze you how easily it is spread and moved throughout your grow.I may be wrong but I think K/Si help the immune system, and the Daconil outright stops the virus.
Yes, leafhoppers are most likely the main vector, but any bug that sucks the plant juice may spread the virus.
JohnnyButtons says he sent photos to his fertilizer company, and they identified the virus. They said it was a Cousin to Tobacco Mosiac Virus which has no known treatment.
Im for sure going to go buy some Daconil tomorrow, and treat what plants I have left. If it doesnt work, oh well, at least I tried, but his photos of before and after are very convincing. Not a trace of it left.
Yes I was. Sorry about confusionI believe he was referring to Daconil for leaf spot or some other fungus.
Great question. K is widely accepted as an immune system supporting nutrient. It certainly won't eradicate the disease but it seems to help. When K is sufficient there is an increase in the synthesis of the high-molecular weight compounds such as proteins, starches and cellulose.This depresses the concentrations of low-molecular-weight compounds such as soluble sugars, organic acids, amino acids and amides in the plant tissue.So what’s the correlation between this virus and increasing K/Si to treat/control it? I don’t follow the logic here…and what is the root cause of the virus? How is it vectored? Are leafhoppers and other sapsuckers to blame? Has the virus been confirmed through lab testing?
The amount of time I have researching this phenomenon is ridiculous. I’ve been dealing with it for 6 years and this is the first time I’ve read of someone who claims to know what it is and not just speculating.
Pic is of one of my plants this year…
So in turf, we deal with new diseases and bacterias that pop up on us about every 10 years. It's all new and until studied we have to find ways to deal with it. Viruses within cannabis are new and I have to imagine they are being studied, and hopefully remedies will be available. Viruses are brutally tough however. I find it hard to believe they will ever find a silver bullet type cure. I have to imagine there are multiple strains of viruses within cannabis which would produce different symptoms. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds.Ours dont show any mottling on the leaves. Just purple, black, twisted, stunted growth
Not sureWILL THE VIRUS PASS ON TO SEEDS
Good question. From what I've heard, it's been seen from coast to coastIs this virus being seen/detected everywhere?
I kind of wonder if we can do some data collection that identified where it's being detected, maybe with "heat spots", (red dots for highest occurrence, yellow for medium occurrence, and green for none)?
I'd also like to see details on other's efforts to deal with the infection.
Don’t shoot the messenger….
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