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Thank youIf I read everything correctly, you are growing in coco with a small percentage of soil (I would consider it coco). A few things... I respect your decision to grow organically, however, coco is considered a hydroponic medium and performs best with hydroponic nutrients. That means unless you have mastered coco AND organic nutrients, I would stick with hydroponic nutrients. I grow organically for all my outdoor crops, so I prefer the refined minerals for my indoor coco grows (i fell thats less synthetic). IMO, if you want these plants to grow, change nutrients. Organic just doesn't mix well with coco unless your experienced in both.
I use the masterblend line with calcium nitrate, tomato and veg formula and epsom salts. I ran out of epsom salts so I've just been using a liquid cal-mag supplement.
I feed 1x per day with a decent amount of run off. I have one plant in a solo cup that I have to feed 2x a day.
Per 1 gallon of water:
1/4 teaspoon calcium nitrate
1/4 teaspoon tomato and veg formula
1/4 epsom salts or 2.5mL liquid cal-mag
for flower:
1/4 teaspoon tomato and veg formula
1/4 teaspoon epsom salts or 2/5mL liquid cal-mag
Hope this helps!
Update Watered today to 20% runoff. 640 net ppm. Which may be high for 22 day old plants(from germination) 6 hours later they were wilting. Ugh!view this as a learning experience. luckily, it happened, early on. ur attention to ur plants and genuine concerns for their well being... ur gonna b great at this. don't give up. begin, again and if u maintain a journal, here... leave the link.
u already... saw the usual suspects... and we will stalk u to the finish line, to the best of our abilities.
This is unfortunately 100 percent true. Actually first heard about it on the radio from a ER physician. I have a friend that gets it as well.Why have I never met or heard of a user in 35 years that has has these symptoms related to marijuana?
And why is it only being discovered now?
I am really curious about this.
This is unfortunately 100 percent true. Actually first heard about it on the radio from a ER physician. I have a friend that gets it as well.
the guy i know that gets it grows his own and it is 100percent organic. Have to remember the industry is always trying to increase the the levels in the plant so it could also be related to increased THC levels.It has to be from an additive. It has only been happening for a few years. Something in the weed. Neem? It just doesnt make sense.
And i come from a family with doctors and scientists and the doctors mostly go with what the AMA and pharmaceutical business tell them.
the guy i know that gets it grows his own and it is 100percent organic. Have to remember the industry is always trying to increase the the levels in the plant so it could also be related to increased THC levels.
What do you mean wilting? Do you have a pictureUpdate Watered today to 20% runoff. 640 net ppm. Which may be high for 22 day old plants(from germination) 6 hours later they were wilting. Ugh!
Not only can I not water on a regular basis. I am going to have to figure out how to water them just enough and often enough and then I'm also going to have to keep a schedule where I flush them regularly and immediately place them on towels after runoff to pull additional moisture out if pots. I'll have to give them a gallon every other day for 3 cycles then flush them on the 4th or something to that effect.
Bottom line: Do Not Try 10% Soil. Or perhaps the real issue is I depended on the pearlite which was in the Pro Mix HP to be sufficient. in my 40 gallon mix (guessing aprox 180 litre) I could/should have added as much as 10 litres pearlite. Lessons lessons.
nononono there's a pattern forming and if i ... I'll freakUpdate Watered today to 20% runoff. 640 net ppm. Which may be high for 22 day old plants(from germination) 6 hours later they were wilting. Ugh!
Not only can I not water on a regular basis. I am going to have to figure out how to water them just enough and often enough and then I'm also going to have to keep a schedule where I flush them regularly and immediately place them on towels after runoff to pull additional moisture out if pots. I'll have to give them a gallon every other day for 3 cycles then flush them on the 4th or something to that effect.
Bottom line: Do Not Try 10% Soil. Or perhaps the real issue is I depended on the pearlite which was in the Pro Mix HP to be sufficient. in my 40 gallon mix (guessing aprox 180 litre) I could/should have added as much as 10 litres pearlite. Lessons lessons.
Thanks.
Here it is. Wrote this once on my phone but it dissapeared.
This Is my 1st real grow. I am in a 4x4 Vivisun tent. Running a Pllizon Cree COB 3000. RH 50-55°. Av temp 75-78f. 72 with lights off. Light 19/5. I mixed 20 gal cheap coco did not rinse or buffer (mistake I know) 20 gal pro mix hp. 2 cups ea kelp meal, alfalfa meal, bat guano, green sand, 2 cups bone meal. 2 gal ea happy frog and fox farm. 6 cups worm castings. 1 cup azomite. I hydrated the coco with 5 gal tap water and 5 tablespoons unsulphered molasses. Lights were 30" from tops. Moved them up to 36 yesterday. I top dressed with 3 tablespoons each of organic dry 444 and 284. I recently started using cal mag at 50%. I PH my water between 5.8 and 6.2. My water is 200 ppm after PHing and cal mag. My runoff today was 747. I water every 16-18 hours. I am considering this a hydro and I know I will be told it is not soil less mix. I am 14 days from veg and top nose is 3rf node. The photo is of Critical Purple. I also have cream and tangerine dream. All Autos by the way. I water to about 10% runoff. I remove runoff from trays. Not sure if I should run the COBs only, COBs and panel, or just panel. I have an oscillating tower fan blowing across plants. I have a 9" fan blowing up across the light. a 4" inline carbon exhaust, and a small fan pulling in air from lower tent vent. The 9" fan is blowing up across my 2 1 gal homemade co2 generators. That's about it.
If I read everything correctly, you are growing in coco with a small percentage of soil (I would consider it coco). A few things... I respect your decision to grow organically, however, coco is considered a hydroponic medium and performs best with hydroponic nutrients. That means unless you have mastered coco AND organic nutrients, I would stick with hydroponic nutrients. I grow organically for all my outdoor crops, so I prefer the refined minerals for my indoor coco grows (i fell thats less synthetic). IMO, if you want these plants to grow, change nutrients. Organic just doesn't mix well with coco unless your experienced in both.
I use the masterblend line with calcium nitrate, tomato and veg formula and epsom salts. I ran out of epsom salts so I've just been using a liquid cal-mag supplement.
I feed 1x per day with a decent amount of run off. I have one plant in a solo cup that I have to feed 2x a day.
Per 1 gallon of water:
1/4 teaspoon calcium nitrate
1/4 teaspoon tomato and veg formula
1/4 epsom salts or 2.5mL liquid cal-mag
for flower:
1/4 teaspoon tomato and veg formula
1/4 teaspoon epsom salts or 2/5mL liquid cal-mag
Hope this helps!
there is a book; an article
somewhere
i forget
that elaboates
on stage and ppm
til u get the hang of it
STOP
with the nute push
and life stresses
towards torches
and pitchforks
someone said 400ish
good thing it ummmm
cyclical
ummm
happened so early
- an infamous
killer of seed
There is a lot but just a little of each. There is 10% soil but this mix still drains/dries like pure coco. No way I can go 24 hours between waterings. I watered at 4 am it is now 3 pm and the medium is moist to the point that I could definitely water again. I'm going to wait a few more hours. 16-18 seems to be working well. My last runoff adjusted ppm was 389. I believe that is about perfect for plants between 3 and 6" (7.5_15cm). If the ppm holds for another week I can amend with confidence. I will also give them tea at some point. Probably a couple days before amending. makes sense.
Perhaps my issue is not the 10% soil but the 40% peat moss.
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