doubleds 10 lb plant/room test.

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Well if I did meet the guy ever it would be a pat on the back and thanking him for taking the time to post here on the farm and laying out exactly every step to follow to achieve yields like his.

And yes a 65 gram bud would be something to take a pic of for sure so IF I ever see one Ill take a pic on a scale :)





Haha yes thats what I think the implications is.

Giddeon here are some old pics of Krustys 3lber harvests just so you get an idea of why I personally am suspicious of the numbers being altered ive personally only grown 1-1.5 lbers indoors.

Krustys plants were 5x5 atleast and around 5+ feet tall at finish or so at finish excluding the bucket.
http://img856.invalid.com/img856/3195/krusty1o.jpg
http://img541.invalid.com/img541/5843/10152ppmeccf.jpg
http://img204.invalid.com/img204/349/krusty11.jpg
http://img28.invalid.com/img28/6046/buckts3.jpg
http://img151.invalid.com/img151/5997/227milkhouserunat5weeks.jpg

Now for some of DDs 3+lber in his 20 light 2lb per light room.

http://img813.invalid.com/img813/2514/filex.jpg
http://img857.invalid.com/img857/5558/file2.jpg
http://img23.invalid.com/img23/7541/file4h.jpg

DD's 4lber in his 10 light 42lber room.

http://img638.invalid.com/img638/744/dd10p42lb.jpg

DD's 8lbers

http://img221.invalid.com/img221/164/img1955fq.jpg
http://img861.invalid.com/img861/6975/img1952w.jpg
http://img171.invalid.com/img171/1458/img19511.jpg
http://img101.invalid.com/img101/6287/img19531.jpg
http://img807.invalid.com/img807/5618/img19541.jpg

Its obvious to me now that his 8lbers are bigger then his 4lbers and have alot of bud all around the lower parts but a few of us at the farm suspect that his 4lbers were not actually 4lbers to begin with but really in the 2-3lb range. Now compared to Krustys 3lbers, DD's 8lbers are bigger but are they really in the 6-8 range or maybe more in the 4-5 range to be more accurate.

There all genetic freaks as far as cola size goes, grow a strain that actually has the required bag appeal and its doubtful your gonna be going over the 1.5-2lb mark with a 5x5 plant.
 
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Is there someone growing bigger indoors than DDs and posting the results?
 
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Ok, I'm coming from a non pot plant background but the lighting isn't all of it. I mentioned before a lot of my interests in the hort. industry were related to soils and roots - that's why I really got excited with this thread. When DD deductively increased his gallonage for roots I knew he was on to something. Soil/hydro (doesn't mater, it's the same thing) in larger containers really effects growth. "A ten dollar hole for a one dollar plant" really is true. It's really very simple. We've been doing the same thing with soil for eons and the same application with hydroponics will most likely be de riguer in the very near future.
 
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i bet that drizzle was the youngest or a only child,seeing dirt in a mpb is priceless :giggle sorry about his sucksess:Dsucks for him but if it goes to teach the masses then it happened for the greater good and well....recipie for failure by dizzle was born and for that we owe him.bummer thats a hell of a thing to be known for but he lets it be known and if your waving the mpb = failure banner at the mpb party....least he got the post count out of it to run off nice people with honest problems. it seems alot of comments he gives are smug and rude :wondering am i wrong am i the only one that didnt come for that ?must be cool, treating people like they are less or do you have a problem talking to people one to one? im honerd to make this thread at all as i feel like im among giants drizzle excuded. just felt overdue sorry to rant hope i didnt upset admin:anim_09: no one is worred about bragging how few oz that got? try try agin

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Bottom line imho is:
That NO 1 ELSE IS COMMING CLOSE 2 HITING THESE #'S...coxie only got 2lb,other say roughly 2lb and now he gets 8.5????

Where I stop and get real suspicious is when you look @ the nute/hydro company's THEY HAVE PEOPLE pedaling there shit thru these forums...AND YES SOME OF THESE people are of high reputation,SOME NOT ALL... And dd's said he got free product from company's why is that??????? MAYBE so he would boast about using these products and achieveing 8.5 lbs WITH them???
Like these totes that cost WAY MORE THEN OTHER COMPARABLE TOTES,OR HIBOW AIR PUMPS lol you can get pondmasters for a 3rd of the price....

BUT THE MOST SUSPECT THING TO ME IS THE NUTRIENTS
His system by far requires you to use the MOST NUTRIETS then all other systems....
AND WHO DOES HE RECOMEND???? you guest it.. The honest people YOUR FRIENDS AND MINE... lol NOT!!!
ADVANCE NUTRIENTS.....

You might not be aware of this but the reason advance nutrients give's you your money back so freely/hasle free.
Is cause nutrients is made of all water and a few pennys of salts...
ITS LIKE A 1000% markup for somthing your neighborhood farmer/greenhouse gardner is doing with simple bags of fertilizers....
They just put pretty pictures and boast of wild claims and have great names lmao big bud,budcandy etc..
And we the uneducated grower's buy it up.. and come to these threads to get good advice AND THERE IS GREAT ADVICE AND GREAT PEOPLE,but you HAVE TO BE CAREFULL NOT 2 BE MUNIPULATED by propaganda... MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE IMHO
BUT HEY ITS A BUISNESS... I get it some1 has to pay for the advertisment lol... NOT ME...

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PS. If some1 mentions his "great genetics" again I'm going to puke lol.. What the rest of us have less superior 1's????
 
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I also agree with hasbro bigger root's = bigger plant's and DD's drip line theory seems VERY INTERSTING...
However I'm a diy nute guy,so I can afford the trials...
I also appriciate all the info and theory's DD's gave to the community whether they were bias towards 1 company or not that's up to the reader to decide...
And I think we can all agree that most of HIS SYTEM IS SOUND...

After all the name says it all MEDICAL PATIENT BUCKETS...
Where the idea is to grow big buds = big harvest
with only small amounts = staying within your medical rights...
His system acheive's this...
Not going to prison IS PRICELESS...

SO IMHO KUDO'S 2 HIM AND ENJOY RETIREMENT...

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Giddeon here are some old pics of Krustys 3lber harvests just so you get an idea of why I personally am suspicious of the numbers being altered ive personally only grown 1-1.5 lbers indoors.

Krustys plants were 5x5 atleast and around 5+ feet tall at finish or so at finish excluding the bucket.
http://img856.invalid.com/img856/3195/krusty1o.jpg
http://img541.invalid.com/img541/5843/10152ppmeccf.jpg
http://img204.invalid.com/img204/349/krusty11.jpg
http://img28.invalid.com/img28/6046/buckts3.jpg
http://img151.invalid.com/img151/5997/227milkhouserunat5weeks.jpg

Now for some of DDs 3+lber in his 20 light 2lb per light room.

http://img813.invalid.com/img813/2514/filex.jpg
http://img857.invalid.com/img857/5558/file2.jpg
http://img23.invalid.com/img23/7541/file4h.jpg

DD's 4lber in his 10 light 42lber room.

http://img638.invalid.com/img638/744/dd10p42lb.jpg

DD's 8lbers

http://img221.invalid.com/img221/164/img1955fq.jpg
http://img861.invalid.com/img861/6975/img1952w.jpg
http://img171.invalid.com/img171/1458/img19511.jpg
http://img101.invalid.com/img101/6287/img19531.jpg
http://img807.invalid.com/img807/5618/img19541.jpg

Its obvious to me now that his 8lbers are bigger then his 4lbers and have alot of bud all around the lower parts but a few of us at the farm suspect that his 4lbers were not actually 4lbers to begin with but really in the 2-3lb range. Now compared to Krustys 3lbers, DD's 8lbers are bigger but are they really in the 6-8 range or maybe more in the 4-5 range to be more accurate.

There all genetic freaks as far as cola size goes, grow a strain that actually has the required bag appeal and its doubtful your gonna be going over the 1.5-2lb mark with a 5x5 plant.

nice post Anti!

I guess to question DD's posts (aka GOD to some peeps) makes u a hater. lol

confu...
 
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yea why would anyone doubt 32lbs out of a 10x10 space, just believe everything he types and you'll be fine


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lol Dizzle is the *KING* of sarcasm, not a drop too much, not a drop tooo little! Keep rokkin mannn!

evrybody has a sense of humor,,,,i like Mr. Dizzle's SOH here....

Hell, I haven't done hydroponics since college. But I have been in the industry for almost thirty years. My point is while DD's results are really impressive, it's pretty typical for someone in a field or industry to do this. It is also typical for others to contradict and challenge these results.
hey there hasbro,
i was just kinding around cuz i saw 1 post only is all, welcome aboard, ur history predicts u will present some good ideas for here I think.... and when u write about people in the filed, all i can think of are those HUGE pumpkins you see in the newspaper every once in awhile ..happy growing


being a doubter is fine when its at your house in front of your computer to your self. It makes you a hater when you post your doubts in someone elses thread to stir up shit
st3ve,
unless you have some sort of telepathy with me, and you are deeper in my subconscious than me, than you really do not know exactly why i posted what I did, when i did, or why I did, and once again I have to say this, but towards you this time cuz of ya callin me out a lil,,,, you are wrong w/the hater stuff, with me anyhow,,, call me curious, call me a doubter though, i can live with that , I can even live with being called a hater, but its not true... and that is all ya goota know
happy growing!!

Its obvious to me now that his 8lbers are bigger then his 4lbers and have alot of bud all around the lower parts but a few of us at the farm suspect that his 4lbers were not actually 4lbers to begin with but really in the 2-3lb range. Now compared to Krustys 3lbers, DD's 8lbers are bigger but are they really in the 6-8 range or maybe more in the 4-5 range to be more accurate.

There all genetic freaks as far as cola size goes, grow a strain that actually has the required bag appeal and its doubtful your gonna be going over the 1.5-2lb mark with a 5x5 plant.

does anyone have first hand knowledge of how the quality is from such a large plant,,, i know bigger is better for more yield, but does it interfere with overall quality in any way,,, I am thinking it doesnt have an effect on quality, but wondering aloud here

nice post Anti!

I guess to question DD's posts (aka GOD to some peeps) makes u a hater. lol

confu...

i also doubt krusty's weights as well, so , how can one compare those to these as if its a measure of weight, ( krusty's plt="s 3lbs in a weights n measures book ), see i am a doubting thomas all the way around,,, but i do apoligize if my few posts here took away from DD's accomplishment with his new theory,,, my sincere apoligy DD's, happy retirement



all in all, IMO, it is splitting hairs here trying to figure weight from a picture,,,, and no matter what, it is super impressive in my book, cuz like i said earlier here, I had never imagined a plt weighing that much , and i was talking 3-4lbers, never mind 8-10lbers, mind freakin bogglingly impressive numbers, especially when i look in my tray and see 1-2 ouncers per plt...lol

here's a pic of my special genetics hindu kush,,,,
**i keep em 28-32 inches tall and two feet around approximately,,,,
** these are in jyippy 1 gal mbp's....

now if this shows a pic of a plant that is alive and wet and not weighed,
1-then that means it weighs a lil under 3 ounces,,,,
2- so if you imagined 44 of those plants in this picture, than you are correct, DD"s plant does indeed weigh 8.3 lbs,
3- i just wanted to apply concrete science & mathematics to solve this dilemma and help peeps sleep a lil easier at night...
4-feel free to shower me with good ole positive rep for helping out k..a big thx to all again!
 
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Well I have hit 3.7 with advanced nutrients, I support them and recommend them to any one that will take my advice, I get no deals, I pay full asking price at the place I shop for my supplies. The advanced pack DD's had put together is cheaper than some of the other companies packs I have ran in the past.

Be doubters. Maybe it will spur someone else to finally follow exactly what DD's has posted to do and then come out on top. Hell if you look at any of the failures of this system it is because they have strayed from DD's design in one way or another.

Just because I can see that the guy has laid everything out for us to do and have followed these directions doesn't make him a god, but more of a great professor who has studied in his field and probably has more knowledge than the student sitting in front of him. If the student wants to succeed in the said field they should follow the professors direction at the beginning then once success has begun then begin to put their own flair into it.

So again no I am not affiliated with advanced nutrients but I will recommend their use to anyone since it has worked for me. And no I have never met nor will probably ever meet dd's I am not here just to pump up his rep, so sorry I keep trying to tell people that this is totally possible, question it sure but these results are more than possible.
 
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here's a pic of my special genetics hindu kush,,,,
**i keep em 28-32 inches tall and two feet around approximately,,,,
** these are in jyippy 1 gal mbp's....

now if this shows a pic of a plant that is alive and wet and not weighed,
1-then that means it weighs a lil under 3 ounces,,,,
2- so if you imagined 44 of those plants in this picture, than you are correct, DD"s plant does indeed weigh 8.3 lbs,
3- i just wanted to apply concrete science & mathematics to solve this dilemma and help peeps sleep a lil easier at night...
4-feel free to shower me with good ole positive rep for helping out k..a big thx to all again!

It will never be known for sure, the bud size and the amount of buds on his 8.3lbers are of impressive size and are very numerous, there could be 30 3 ouncer branches instead of 44 and we would not be able to tell the difference but its alot more logical to think that 20+lbs came out of a 10x10 rather then 32. 15lbs dry pounds alone would absolutely pack a 10x10 to the brim.
 
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i keep passing thru this thread cuz it is still more than my marijuana saturated brain can comprehend , the sight of those fat buds and the idea of 4 plts giving that much weight,,, i mean doubter or whatever, bad student, still it is alot of bud comin outta a finite smallish area,,, it musta looked sick when you went in there and were sandwiched between 4 huge freakin fat girls on the dnace floor, DDs' needs a disco ball for them fatties to frolic under,,, except these girls smell nicer!
 
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This is a very interesting thread. It fully exemplifies the absolute essence of the internet, ie., punters anonymously posting opinions for the purposed edification of the subscribed masses. I have seen a lot of stuff while logged in to the world wide web, and I take everything I see with a humongous grain of salt. I've seen a lot of people get hit in the nuts with various objects, and it's sad to say that these online experiences are the only times I have felt that authentication was unnecessary. In other words, unless you see the foot hitting the nutsack and the victim vomiting or wretching in some way, you have no recourse other than to disbelieve the authenticity of content. That said, I have been growing for most of my life and I'm pretty sure I've seen it all. I've seen a veteran outdoor grower lose over 900 pounds to botrytis in a dry season and a teenaged, first time grower yield over 2 pounds from a single 600 watt lamp, using soil dug from his mom's tomato garden. Suffice it to say, strange things can and will happen. Anyone who is interested in cultivating their own ego, ignominiously or not, can post whatever they feel like posting to perpetuate their own cause based on this assumed variance. Here's an example:

My name is chemlord (you know me) and I once flipped an unrooted cut of SFV OG that was damping off and yielded 19 pounds from it using my special moon-mineral nutrient blend in drip-fed lego blocks with a 50 watt incandescent bulb with no ventilation or enrichment whatsoever. My peak PPM was 2 and I was foliar spraying till week 6 with Christmas snow globe water and Lucky Charms cereal-tea.

If I made this statement and had the previous, precedented credentials that DD does, people would be lining up like dustbowlers for loaves of bread and soup to try to engage me in the hopes of gleaning even the slightest bit of info pertaining to how they can duplicate my system. The longer they stood in that line, the hungrier they would get over the months and years and thus an exponential expectation of portion size would be expected. This is what's been happening in this particular instance and DD has had to water down his soup and deleaven his bread to feed everyone. Blind with hunger, the masses gulp up all the manna they can before they begin to think they might starve and that's the only time they start asking questions as to when they can start lining up again, having been previously satiated. Heavy is the head that wears the feedbag, in other words, and heavier still is the trough that feeds it.


All bullshit aside, and I'm going to take this next statement down to accepted internet levels, there's no fucking way that those plants yielded anywhere close to the claimed numbers. Just because we're starving doesn't mean were going to eat shit on a stick. There is little to no doubt that dd is a skilled and innovative grower, but seriously? I have seen outdoor plants that have yielded less than his supposed figures that were 15 feet tall and ten feet around with hundreds of body-sized colas that were so dense that they could slice a diamond.


DISCLAIMER: See how easy it is? This is just my opinion. I hope that I am wrong. We've seen pictures of astronauts standing on the moon, too. None of us were actually there to confirm it though, so who knows.
 
Confuten1

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This is a very interesting thread. It fully exemplifies the absolute essence of the internet, ie., punters anonymously posting opinions for the purposed edification of the subscribed masses. I have seen a lot of stuff while logged in to the world wide web, and I take everything I see with a humongous grain of salt. I've seen a lot of people get hit in the nuts with various objects, and it's sad to say that these online experiences are the only times I have felt that authentication was unnecessary. In other words, unless you see the foot hitting the nutsack and the victim vomiting or wretching in some way, you have no recourse other than to disbelieve the authenticity of content. That said, I have been growing for most of my life and I'm pretty sure I've seen it all. I've seen a veteran outdoor grower lose over 900 pounds to botrytis in a dry season and a teenaged, first time grower yield over 2 pounds from a single 600 watt lamp, using soil dug from his mom's tomato garden. Suffice it to say, strange things can and will happen. Anyone who is interested in cultivating their own ego, ignominiously or not, can post whatever they feel like posting to perpetuate their own cause based on this assumed variance. Here's an example:

My name is chemlord (you know me) and I once flipped an unrooted cut of SFV OG that was damping off and yielded 19 pounds from it using my special moon-mineral nutrient blend in drip-fed lego blocks with a 50 watt incandescent bulb with no ventilation or enrichment whatsoever. My peak PPM was 2 and I was foliar spraying till week 6 with Christmas snow globe water and Lucky Charms cereal-tea.

If I made this statement and had the previous, precedented credentials that DD does, people would be lining up like dustbowlers for loaves of bread and soup to try to engage me in the hopes of gleaning even the slightest bit of info pertaining to how they can duplicate my system. The longer they stood in that line, the hungrier they would get over the months and years and thus an exponential expectation of portion size would be expected. This is what's been happening in this particular instance and DD has had to water down his soup and deleaven his bread to feed everyone. Blind with hunger, the masses gulp up all the manna they can before they begin to think they might starve and that's the only time they start asking questions as to when they can start lining up again, having been previously satiated. Heavy is the head that wears the feedbag, in other words, and heavier still is the trough that feeds it.


All bullshit aside, and I'm going to take this next statement down to accepted internet levels, there's no fucking way that those plants yielded anywhere close to the claimed numbers. Just because we're starving doesn't mean were going to eat shit on a stick. There is little to no doubt that dd is a skilled and innovative grower, but seriously? I have seen outdoor plants that have yielded less than his supposed figures that were 15 feet tall and ten feet around with hundreds of body-sized colas that were so dense that they could slice a diamond.


DISCLAIMER: See how easy it is? This is just my opinion. I hope that I am wrong. We've seen pictures of astronauts standing on the moon, too. None of us were actually there to confirm it though, so who knows.


word up chemlord!! funny and well spoken.

confu...
 
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This is a very interesting thread. It fully exemplifies the absolute essence of the internet, ie., punters anonymously posting opinions for the purposed edification of the subscribed masses. I have seen a lot of stuff while logged in to the world wide web, and I take everything I see with a humongous grain of salt. I've seen a lot of people get hit in the nuts with various objects, and it's sad to say that these online experiences are the only times I have felt that authentication was unnecessary. In other words, unless you see the foot hitting the nutsack and the victim vomiting or wretching in some way, you have no recourse other than to disbelieve the authenticity of content. That said, I have been growing for most of my life and I'm pretty sure I've seen it all. I've seen a veteran outdoor grower lose over 900 pounds to botrytis in a dry season and a teenaged, first time grower yield over 2 pounds from a single 600 watt lamp, using soil dug from his mom's tomato garden. Suffice it to say, strange things can and will happen. Anyone who is interested in cultivating their own ego, ignominiously or not, can post whatever they feel like posting to perpetuate their own cause based on this assumed variance. Here's an example:

My name is chemlord (you know me) and I once flipped an unrooted cut of SFV OG that was damping off and yielded 19 pounds from it using my special moon-mineral nutrient blend in drip-fed lego blocks with a 50 watt incandescent bulb with no ventilation or enrichment whatsoever. My peak PPM was 2 and I was foliar spraying till week 6 with Christmas snow globe water and Lucky Charms cereal-tea.

If I made this statement and had the previous, precedented credentials that DD does, people would be lining up like dustbowlers for loaves of bread and soup to try to engage me in the hopes of gleaning even the slightest bit of info pertaining to how they can duplicate my system. The longer they stood in that line, the hungrier they would get over the months and years and thus an exponential expectation of portion size would be expected. This is what's been happening in this particular instance and DD has had to water down his soup and deleaven his bread to feed everyone. Blind with hunger, the masses gulp up all the manna they can before they begin to think they might starve and that's the only time they start asking questions as to when they can start lining up again, having been previously satiated. Heavy is the head that wears the feedbag, in other words, and heavier still is the trough that feeds it.


All bullshit aside, and I'm going to take this next statement down to accepted internet levels, there's no fucking way that those plants yielded anywhere close to the claimed numbers. Just because we're starving doesn't mean were going to eat shit on a stick. There is little to no doubt that dd is a skilled and innovative grower, but seriously? I have seen outdoor plants that have yielded less than his supposed figures that were 15 feet tall and ten feet around with hundreds of body-sized colas that were so dense that they could slice a diamond.


DISCLAIMER: See how easy it is? This is just my opinion. I hope that I am wrong. We've seen pictures of astronauts standing on the moon, too. None of us were actually there to confirm it though, so who knows.

agree 100%

i dont understand why there is actually this strange ass kissing attitude on these forums. if i see a nice plant or wicked grow il leave a comment commending the guy. thats it.
some people see these grows and actually become fans of the poster, who they will defend bitterly which i can only guess is because their own grows aint great or that they need someone to look up to.

props to dd he grows a nice big plant, he i has a good talent for what he does. but the buckets are pretty standard and he definately was not the first to construct something along these lines. the concept of big roots/plant = big yield is not new either. do i think 8lbs? no. ive seen a ten pound tree that had massive colas and wouldnt fit in dds room.
just my opinion. no offence intended .
 
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I always keep coming back to this thread, its impressive. The colas are most definetly bigger then any outdoor 10lbers that have been posted on the internet I can assure you guys of that, and Ive seen them all. You have hardly any leaf matter to trim up on those colas unlike the big outdoor kongs, its all weight when dryed.
 
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8lbs .....4lbs.....either way them is some big ass colas.

What I wanna see is finished dried nugs.
Seeing if the nugs are frost and dense is the real tale of the tape.

Was looking through some of my old pics
ultrahaze.jpg


arjans ultra haze, was super frosty, medium density, weighed in at 5 oz, took fraking 16 weeks to finish (don't know what I was thinking)
 
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I always keep coming back to this thread, its impressive. The colas are most definetly bigger then any outdoor 10lbers that have been posted on the internet I can assure you guys of that, and Ive seen them all. You have hardly any leaf matter to trim up on those colas unlike the big outdoor kongs, its all weight when dryed.

the claim was 8lb of dry nug, trimmed.
 
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the claim was 8lb of dry nug, trimmed.

I think you misread my post. Outdoor is leafy so when you trim up those big colas they are actually smaller then they would of appeared untrimmed on the plant whereas DDs colas are chunky with hardly any leaf, so what you see is what you get.
 
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