DURBAN DIABETIC DESTROYER ........

[catdaddy]

a few of the durban day 60 something cant recall i am currently chillin View attachment 278609View attachment 278610 with a little barenaked ladies brian wilson.... music is fucking great when your blasted.....

she is looking like a real beast, how tall is she atm? good luck with that Dinafem OGK, it's looking like it's ready to put a hurting on someone.

 

[soserthc1]

she is looking like a real beast, how tall is she atm? good luck with that Dinafem OGK, it's looking like it's ready to put a hurting on someone.

42inch and not growing anymore just waiting for her to tie back and amber up , chopped ogk after light cycle yesterday and added a new ARC and now there is less room and house got that smell , as it always does when drying really need a drying area bad or maybe a new filter for closet , could dry in garage but never seem to dry correctly in 55 degree garage....

 

[soserthc1]

durban 1 has been chopped on day 69 massive yielded for a half gallon pot. Am going to experiment with my number one patient as soon as she dries up . Durban 2 and Durban 3 are not even close to being done at 70 and 65 looking like at least 84 days of them cloging up my room..... here is a bud of Durban 1 more pictures later .....

 

[catdaddy]

bud looking good, Sose.

damn, you had that girl in only a half gallon of soil?

 

[Medusa]

Sos buddy so sorry to hear about wifey ! have alot of clients with diabetes with the insulin needs careful monitoring the old pancreas doesn't like that stuff and you need that organ.anything i can help you with let me know .! Thats one organ i still have !

 

[soserthc1]

bud looking good, Sose.

damn, you had that girl in only a half gallon of soil?

yea and after 5 days drying it is weighing in at 92 grams insanity .... should loose a few more in the bag and curing up but def over 3 zips in a half gal container .... crazy man gonna run her in the future in a big ass container but that will be awhile as still have two DP's in there that are gonna take 84ish ... way to long for me but the one above was done in 69 and untopped .....

Sos buddy so sorry to hear about wifey ! have alot of clients with diabetes with the insulin needs careful monitoring the old pancreas doesn't like that stuff and you need that organ.anything i can help you with let me know .! Thats one organ i still have !

thanks .... appreciate it ... she is watching herself better this year so far.....

 

[soserthc1]

nug shot after a week drying ....

 

[soserthc1]

durban 2 and 3 in that order on day 75 and 70 these two will be going the distant or 84 as i believe my patients will run out by then , durban 2 is starting to color up and durban 3 is getting heaver but no color yet.....

 

[NaturalTherapy]

Sweet bro. massive yield!!! I generally get 4 ounces of durb from 7 gallons of soil.... I wished I lived closer so I could see the plant and flowers to get an idea if she was all Durban or had some Willie Nelson in there... The yield makes me think Willie has a bit of genes in that plant. That lady yielded 6 to half lb easy in 7 gallons... If only she wasn't so damned sensitive and prone to intersexing....

Eagerly anticipating results, I really hope your wife is able to get some relief from that one

 

[soserthc1]

the cola from durban 1 which is just about ready to be smoke up ..... see if it effect wife's sugar levels if i can get her to take more than 2 hits .....

 

[soserthc1]

Sweet bro. massive yield!!! I generally get 4 ounces of durb from 7 gallons of soil.... I wished I lived closer so I could see the plant and flowers to get an idea if she was all Durban or had some Willie Nelson in there... The yield makes me think Willie has a bit of genes in that plant. That lady yielded 6 to half lb easy in 7 gallons... If only she wasn't so damned sensitive and prone to intersexing....

Eagerly anticipating results, I really hope your wife is able to get some relief from that one

thank you NT, I appreciate your concern , hope all is well with you and your have a great 2013 ......Respect SoSer

 

[squiggly]

I just have to jump in here.

I've just gotta quickly point out that in terms of treating type 1 diabetes with MJ--I don't think there's really any reason to believe this could be beneficial at least as it goes to controlling blood sugar.

If there are side effects of the insulin, or other medications which are required (that have different functions from insulin)--then perhaps some of these might be reduced through using MJ, but it's a certainty that it won't do anything to scratch the insulin deficiency.

With the chemical processes involved, none of the actives in MJ have the ability to do anything there. The process contains many steps, and all of them are predicated on insulin activation of GLUT 4.

Without that--you will eventually meet one of the medical conditions diabetes brings on (hyperglycemic shock, ketoacidosis, etc.).


I think it's cool to try and alleviate some of the issues with MJ, and that very well may work--but I just want to ensure that you're not playing with the insulin regimen by trying to replace it with bud.

It won't work. Not by a long shot.

If caught early I can see where this might help prevent damage to the pancreatic cells--but in your 40s with type I your pancreas is all but dead.

You need that insulin. There is no replacement for it. That's part of why diabetes is treated with a protein, and not a drug. The protein is absolutely necessary for the symptoms to be alleviated.

There is nothing on the planet that will activate that insulin binding site but for insulin--the specificity is not high, it is absolute. For as small of a protein as it is (very small) insulin is a still a quite large, incredibly complex molecule.

Nothing with a number of atoms you can nearly count on hands and feet is going to mimic the function--and the function MUST be mimicked. This is the bodies only glucose uptake mechanism.


Sorry to burst the bubble if that's what I'm doing, but I'm definitely not uneducated when it comes to this--I'm not blowing smoke. Not only does my father have Type I--but they really drill this shit into our heads in the Biochem major track, because they know half of us will go on to do diabetes and HIV research--they spend half the biochem major learning about them and their function.

If you'd like me to go through this in a more advanced fashion (i.e. you don't believe me, or you aren't convinced that it can't help replace insulin)--I'd be MORE than happy to do that.

For what it's worth, I feel for you and your wife.

You'll spend your whole life probably hoping that something better will come.

Unfortunately, diabetes is really only something that will forseeably be cured by individual gene therapy--which is incredibly far off, and would be incredibly dangerous, and would be perhaps the most expensive medicine ever known to man.

It's just not the type of disease mechanism that will respond to a drug, it really is a very unique disease--and that makes it hard to cure because we don't have any basis from which to work. It's pretty much just shots in the dark.

Realistically, insulin is a godsend--and it's probably about the best that is going to happen for diabetes in the next 30-40 years. I know its hard to hear that, and believe me--I sympathize (again, my father...)--but sometimes reality is what is necessary.

You must be diligent to fight this disease--there is no help on the way, no cure-all, no alternative. You must be anal retentive about your insulin and your diet, or you will suffer the consequences--with or without weed.

Frankly, type I is about as bad as it gets here as well. The autoimmune version is much worse than the genetic deficiency version. The latter might well be treated by gene therapy in the next 10-20 years. Type I, however, is a huge asshole of a condition.

It's one of the few things in my short life which has made me question my decisions to leave the church and ascribe to atheism. When you look at the mechanism of this disease on the small scale, you know that it's just these chemical reactions playing out--but it seems like there's some evil person with the worst of intentions controlling it.

Like they knew just the right place to flick this switch or that and cause havoc to be rained down on the host. It seems very un-chemical on that scale when you put the whole story together.

HIV is much the same way, as an aside. The thing literally seems to have a brain, even though we know it does not.

I just wanted to illustrate that so that the gravity is clear. Weed cannot fix this. If there is pain, nausea, anxiety, stress--weed can help with those side effects--but the insulin is the most genius cure you can expect to come your way, it's the best case scenario.

Hope is a wonderful thing, and we should always keep that near--but we also need to be stoic in the face of diseases like this if we're to meet with success.

 

[NaturalTherapy]

To be clear, I never stated any effect concerning blood sugar.

I relayed to Soser that my type one patient was able to use Durban solely as his medication in place of sugar pills and metformin, to boost his energy levels during the day when he would crash otherwise. Through diet over the last 6 months, he has been able to get his levels to a safe place consistently, and maintains with Durban to increase levels of energy.

That said, there have been some tremendous effects reported regarding the ingestion of the Rick Simpson "Phoenix Tears" in regulating pancreatic processes more effectively... Though I can't remember if those were type one or two overall

 

[soserthc1]

I just have to jump in here.

I've just gotta quickly point out that in terms of treating type 1 diabetes with MJ--I don't think there's really any reason to believe this could be beneficial at least as it goes to controlling blood sugar.

If there are side effects of the insulin, or other medications which are required (that have different functions from insulin)--then perhaps some of these might be reduced through using MJ, but it's a certainty that it won't do anything to scratch the insulin deficiency.

With the chemical processes involved, none of the actives in MJ have the ability to do anything there. The process contains many steps, and all of them are predicated on insulin activation of GLUT 4.

Without that--you will eventually meet one of the medical conditions diabetes brings on (hyperglycemic shock, ketoacidosis, etc.).


I think it's cool to try and alleviate some of the issues with MJ, and that very well may work--but I just want to ensure that you're not playing with the insulin regimen by trying to replace it with bud.

It won't work. Not by a long shot.

If caught early I can see where this might help prevent damage to the pancreatic cells--but in your 40s with type I your pancreas is all but dead.

You need that insulin. There is no replacement for it. That's part of why diabetes is treated with a protein, and not a drug. The protein is absolutely necessary for the symptoms to be alleviated.

There is nothing on the planet that will activate that insulin binding site but for insulin--the specificity is not high, it is absolute. For as small of a protein as it is (very small) insulin is a still a quite large, incredibly complex molecule.

Nothing with a number of atoms you can nearly count on hands and feet is going to mimic the function--and the function MUST be mimicked. This is the bodies only glucose uptake mechanism.


Sorry to burst the bubble if that's what I'm doing, but I'm definitely not uneducated when it comes to this--I'm not blowing smoke. Not only does my father have Type I--but they really drill this shit into our heads in the Biochem major track, because they know half of us will go on to do diabetes and HIV research--they spend half the biochem major learning about them and their function.

If you'd like me to go through this in a more advanced fashion (i.e. you don't believe me, or you aren't convinced that it can't help replace insulin)--I'd be MORE than happy to do that.

thanks for the educated response Squiggly and I don't doubt your input as I am well aware your are , are chemistry guy around here and I appreciate you jumping in very much, but this is just an experiment for my wife , who rarely smokes and def not a replacement or a substitute for insulin. I nor she would never stop her from taking her insulin. It is just a little experiment to see if she can relax a little without drinking a few glasses of wine every night as that is not good for her but like everyone else , she likes a little release from reality and a altered state like us all now and then. I do have a question for you thosu , she has now has the insulin pump and it has been sitting in the closet for 6 months. Do you see any advantage to her actually using this or is it just a replacement (Or easier way) to take her 4 daily injections.... thanks in advance ( 1 lantis injection and 3 novalox injections before meals) .... peace soser

 

[squiggly]

thanks for the educated response Squiggly and I don't doubt your input as I am well aware your are , are chemistry guy around here and I appreciate you jumping in very much, but this is just an experiment for my wife , who rarely smokes and def not a replacement or a substitute for insulin. I nor she would never stop her from taking her insulin. It is just a little experiment to see if she can relax a little without drinking a few glasses of wine every night as that is not good for her but like everyone else , she likes a little release from reality and a altered state like us all now and then. I do have a question for you thosu , she has now has the insulin pump and it has been sitting in the closet for 6 months. Do you see any advantage to her actually using this or is it just a replacement (Or easier way) to take her 4 daily injections.... thanks in advance ( 1 lantis injection and 3 novalox injections before meals) .... peace soser

I'd think it'd really just be an easier way to be honest far as the pump goes. I'll tell ya what.

Got some errands to run and some shit to finish up around the house. I'll sit down a lil later and do some research into the pumps and whats up with them so that I can give a thoughtful response. What model do you have?

 

[soserthc1]

I'd think it'd really just be an easier way to be honest far as the pump goes. I'll tell ya what.

Got some errands to run and some shit to finish up around the house. I'll sit down a lil later and do some research into the pumps and whats up with them so that I can give a thoughtful response. What model do you have?

the minimed paradigm real time revel ....... medtronic , and thanks again , the wife suffers from this and wanted me to ask you also , if it has any negative effects to the liver , I myself have heb -c which has been undetectable for about 4 yrs after my 6 months of infurion and rivaveron treatments (hell) .... so yea were pretty fucked in the health department but hey play the cards your dealt and move on to the next hand..... take your time its time to medicate i'll be back on at 5 am est......be well and thank you ......

 

[Medusa]

Awesome Squiggly ! Soser great your finding her something with no sugar everybody wants to have fun and relax Best of luck or should I say we all need that !

 

[soserthc1]

DURBAN 2 cut today on day 78 DURBAN 3 cut 4 days ago on day 73 .... harvest picture is durban 3 - flower pictures are durban 2 will post harvest later with nug porn and a sample report on all three to see if they were the same but thinking Durban 1 was a cross with Willie Nelson .... finished faster and produced 92 g in a half gallon pot ..... other 2 will have smaller harvest weights but smelled a little better and had more leaf to calyx ratio.....

 

[NaturalTherapy]

Hey bro.. Curious how the effect is? We're they harvested in the time frame right or should they have gone longer? Is it spacey and anxiety inducing? Or clear and strong?

Also... Read this article and thought I'd share it with you




Marijuana fights diabetes, cancer, dementia and more. Once again we see evidence that marijuana helps to improve and protect human health. Both THC and CBD have direct effects on the cellular degeneration that leads to diabetes by combating inflammation and harmful oxidation. How much longer will the public tolerate the inhumane policy of marijuana prohibition which harms us all? Check out this data:

Decreased prevalence of diabetes in marijuana users: cross-sectional data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) III

Tripathi B Rajavashisth,1,2 Magda Shaheen,corresponding author3 Keith C Norris,3 Deyu Pan,3 Satyesh K Sinha,1 Juan Ortega,1 and Theodore C Friedman1

Objective

To determine the association between diabetes mellitus (DM) and marijuana use.

Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III, 1988–1994) conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Participants

The study included participants of the NHANES III, a nationally representative sample of the US population. The total analytic sample was 10 896 adults. The study included four groups (n=10 896): non-marijuana users (61.0%), past marijuana users (30.7%), light (one to four times/month) (5.0%) and heavy (more than five times/month) current marijuana users (3.3%). DM was defined based on self-report or abnormal glycaemic parameters. We analysed data related to demographics, body mass index, smoking status, alcohol use, total serum cholesterol, high-density lipoprotein, triglyceride, serum 25-hydroxy vitamin D, plasma haemoglobin A1c, fasting plasma glucose level and the serum levels of C reactive protein and four additional inflammatory markers as related to marijuana use.

Main outcome measures

OR for DM associated with marijuana use adjusted for potential confounding variables (ie, odds of DM in marijuana users compared with non-marijuana users).

Results

Marijuana users had a lower age-adjusted prevalence of DM compared to non-marijuana users (OR 0.42, 95% CI 0.33 to 0.55; p<0.0001). The prevalence of elevated C reactive protein (>0.5 mg/dl) was significantly higher (p<0.0001) among non-marijuana users (18.9%) than among past (12.7%) or current light (15.8%) or heavy (9.2%) users. In a robust multivariate model controlling for socio-demographic factors, laboratory values and comorbidity, the lower odds of DM among marijuana users was significant (adjusted OR 0.36, 95% CI 0.24 to 0.55; p<0.0001).

Conclusions

Marijuana use was independently associated with a lower prevalence of DM. Further studies are needed to show a direct effect of marijuana on DM.

 

[soserthc1]

Hey bro.. Curious how the effect is? We're they harvested in the time frame right or should they have gone longer? Is it spacey and anxiety inducing? Or clear and strong?

Also... Read this article and thought I'd share it with you




Marijuana fights diabetes, cancer, dementia and more. Once again we see evidence that marijuana helps to improve and protect human health. Both THC and CBD have direct effects on the cellular degeneration that leads to diabetes by combating inflammation and harmful oxidation. How much longer will the public tolerate the inhumane policy of marijuana prohibition which harms us all? Check out this data:

Decreased prevalence of diabetes in marijuana users: cross-sectional data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) III

Tripathi B Rajavashisth,1,2 Magda Shaheen,corresponding author3 Keith C Norris,3 Deyu Pan,3 Satyesh K Sinha,1 Juan Ortega,1 and Theodore C Friedman1

Objective

To determine the association between diabetes mellitus (DM) and marijuana use.

Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III, 1988–1994) conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Participants

The study included participants of the NHANES III, a nationally representative sample of the US population. The total analytic sample was 10 896 adults. The study included four groups (n=10 896): non-marijuana users (61.0%), past marijuana users (30.7%), light (one to four times/month) (5.0%) and heavy (more than five times/month) current marijuana users (3.3%). DM was defined based on self-report or abnormal glycaemic parameters. We analysed data related to demographics, body mass index, smoking status, alcohol use, total serum cholesterol, high-density lipoprotein, triglyceride, serum 25-hydroxy vitamin D, plasma haemoglobin A1c, fasting plasma glucose level and the serum levels of C reactive protein and four additional inflammatory markers as related to marijuana use.

Main outcome measures

OR for DM associated with marijuana use adjusted for potential confounding variables (ie, odds of DM in marijuana users compared with non-marijuana users).

Results

Marijuana users had a lower age-adjusted prevalence of DM compared to non-marijuana users (OR 0.42, 95% CI 0.33 to 0.55; p<0.0001). The prevalence of elevated C reactive protein (>0.5 mg/dl) was significantly higher (p<0.0001) among non-marijuana users (18.9%) than among past (12.7%) or current light (15.8%) or heavy (9.2%) users. In a robust multivariate model controlling for socio-demographic factors, laboratory values and comorbidity, the lower odds of DM among marijuana users was significant (adjusted OR 0.36, 95% CI 0.24 to 0.55; p<0.0001).

Conclusions

Marijuana use was independently associated with a lower prevalence of DM. Further studies are needed to show a direct effect of marijuana on DM.

Cool good info much appreciated NT , harvested at 67 - 73-78 the 78 days seems to be the more heady high and the middle (73) seems to be the most helpful towards her Diabetes as it has slowly pushed down her numbers after about a half hour of ingestion but she will only take a few hits as she really is not much of a smoker , but am seeing some positive result. Gonna run them all again but really interested in running the 65 day strain in a large container after getting 92 g in a half gallon container i am very curious to see the mass production she will put out in say a 10 gal container ....... will go over that article with her tonight , but so far so good .... plus she has been eating healthier also , peace soser