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It was back in 2005 and it was brick weed with lots of stems and seeds. Is there a market to grow down there? Whats the scene like in CR? Whats the law like? I love my country but hate its government and corporations. Id love to move down there and make it happen. Thanks about the setup. I had to work with what I had in the warehouse but after the owner makes his money back and then some we are going to revamp it. As for the home brew Im switching to mothers, clone, veg for two weeks then transplant to flower room and put in coco beds 9 per tray.
In my experience scaling up outdoors, it's the scaling that becomes an issue. EG, mixing fertilizers. It's one thing to mix up a batch of feed in a 5gal bucket, it becomes a different proposition when you've got to shift that to a 55gal barrel. The numbers are what you've got to get a handle on, and that can change how you approach the husbandry.600 vs. 1000 is a fun discussion to get into with people. It's a pretty polarizing argument. I made the switch a year or two ago to all 600's, but my rooms aren't more than 15 lights with 9' ceilings. It seems like most alot of guys running 50 plus lights have 1000's, but I've heard of plenty guys with 50 1000's switching them out for 600's. I think 600's are bigger in europe? I like the quality I get from 600's more. It's a bigger upfront cost, plus you're replacing way more bulbs every year.
I'm testing out double ended 1000's because everyones going nuts over them. The new gavita 600/750 flex looks interesting.
Lets see if theres any big warehouse guys out there that have 100 600's and wanna tell us about it!
I'm super curious about what moredankbuds said about cultivation not having many economies of scale and bigger grow ops don't save much more time. Think this will keep the market dominated more towards smaller scale growers? Like under 200 lights?
I'm also curious about the often heard saying that managing a grow over 50 lights is way different than a basement or smaller grow. It is repeated often enough to not make me question the wisdom, I'm just wondering what happens in a large grow that makes it so much more difficult.
Great thread, lots of good advice out there!
So as I'm working this morning... On my small 16 light flower room that runs perpetually which I hand feed... Half of the plants daily, half of those compost tea which brew perpetually, the other half I've got to mix 10 gallons of nutes. Checking each plant as it's watered half its portion at a time. The other 72 get checked by the partner. Those plants get fed tomorrow while he checks the ones fed today. A solid routine for 150 girls in flower. Daily attention.As the grow gets larger so does the potential for things to get messed up. An unchecked bug problem can be cataclysmic and fixing a problem can be costly on a massive scale. The maintenance on that size and the time in a day run very close to each other. More plants equals more work. Limited resources be it people, money, time, force quality controls to come down.
Every opp should have scheduled down time and a maintenance cycle outside of growing. We do so much for ourselves because of the industry. Just my thoughts this evening.
So as I'm working this morning... On my small 16 light flower room that runs perpetually which I hand feed... Half of the plants daily, half of those compost tea which brew perpetually, the other half I've got to mix 10 gallons of nutes. Checking each plant as it's watered half its portion at a time. The other 72 get checked by the partner. Those plants get fed tomorrow while he checks the ones fed today. A solid routine for 150 girls in flower. Daily attention.
If we wanted to scale, it'd be adding another two trays in each quadrant. Thus doubling our operation. Nothing got easier our workload doubled. Plus we've got twice the equipment to maintain. And if I'm short on time for today and say to myself, that can wait until tomorrow, tomorrow has its scheduled routine and that's time consuming. It's this that causes the major failure as you scale. Everything is mission critical. 3 to 4 months for a cycle and failure can read her ugly head at any instance. Tomorrow is not part of a growers vocabulary as you scale.
So you say 4 times the work. With 24 usable hours in a day... I'm an insomniac, how many hours a day? I do four hours a day and don't have time for 4 more hours workload and as Cap said that lazy man tomorrow has a ton to catch up on. Realistically how big can a two man operation get?IF I was going to scale up to 100 lights, Id break it up into 4 25k rooms. It eliminates a lot of the problems, spreads the work out, isolates problems Can even run flips and use less amps. And would be the same as running a small room, just 4 times the work. lol Even if I was going to run 500k lights, Id break it into smaller rooms. 200amp setup for each room. Of course this would be in a legal environment since the cost to build would be huge compared to a large open space. But the advantages would be worth it.
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