Fan Leaves Removal During Flowering

[smokedareefer]

At the end of cycle?

Around the end of veg or the very beginning of flower then again around day 21 after strech and then daily I'll keep taking them.

I do it mostly to make harvest easier, it's all for personal use.

 

[BroScience101]

Around the end of veg or the very beginning of flower then again around day 21 after strech and then daily I'll keep taking them.

I do it mostly to make harvest easier, it's all for personal use.

Definitely Makes harvesting easier when there's half as much yield to harvest lol

 

[Nukesrt]

Definitely Makes harvesting easier when there's half as much yield to harvest lol

are your comments neccessary?

 

[Nukesrt]

are your comments neccessary?

necessary*

 

[smokedareefer]

Definitely Makes harvesting easier when there's half as much yield to harvest lol

I'm glad there wasn't twice as much. Don't know what I'd do with it all, like I said personal use for me and my wife.

Last harvest was 4 plants and yielded a scoch better than 7 lbs dry.

 

[smokedareefer]

are your comments neccessary?

His comments are welcome. Imo

He's an old poster handle was foo doo. I've learnt more by listening.

 

[BroScience101]

I'm glad there wasn't twice as much. Don't know what I'd do with it all, like I said personal use for me and my wife.

Last harvest was 4 plants and yielded a scoch better than 7 lbs dry.

You're trying to tell me this is almost a 2lb plant https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/cost-of-nutrition-upkeep-in-rdwc.121186/#post-2523426

Edit: it's safe to say that @waayne was the best grower to ever be on this website, and he had 2 lb indoor trees after a 6-8 week veg however his colas were the size of small children

 

[smokedareefer]

You're trying to tell me this is almost a 2lb plant https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/cost-of-nutrition-upkeep-in-rdwc.121186/#post-2523426

Yes , but not as good as it sounds. .75 gpw

That picture was taken nov 15 and is my current grow which is now on day 54. Bully sticks csi.

Last run was bully sticks also, the mom and 3 kids.

 

[smokedareefer]

You're trying to tell me this is almost a 2lb plant https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/cost-of-nutrition-upkeep-in-rdwc.121186/#post-2523426

Edit: it's safe to say that @waayne was the best grower to ever be on this website, and he had 2 lb indoor trees after a 6-8 week veg however his colas were the size of small children

Aqua man asked the same about 2 months ago in a thread

To defoliate or not to defoliate?

Im not sure how to link a thread but the pictures and scale weights are all there

 

[smokedareefer]

Re: removing fan leaves during flower

Here's an older foursome before I went the defoliation way. Mind you different room, window ac, 2, 1000 wt hps in a room 7x10 rdwc on 30" centers. 16 oz dry per.

Does it affect yield?
I don't know but it sure makes harvest easier with a bowl trimmer and drying nets. It's mostly going to get squished anyways.

Remember I'm mostly flying by the seat of my pants.

 

[MHippie]

are your comments neccessary?

If you want to learn from people who have more knowledge in the first joint of their pinkie fingers (left hand) than you do in your entire being, you might pull up a chair and allow people who know to shower you in knowledge you arent going to gain from the Google. Everyone here is attempting to help you.

 

[MHippie]

Re: removing fan leaves during flower

Here's an older foursome before I went the defoliation way. Mind you different room, window ac, 2, 1000 wt hps in a room 7x10 rdwc on 30" centers. 16 oz dry per.

Does it affect yield?
I don't know but it sure makes harvest easier with a bowl trimmer and drying nets. It's mostly going to get squished anyways.

Remember I'm mostly flying by the seat of my pants.

Imo your grow style dictates that have have to defoliate. Tall plants, HPS/MH set up. Light penetration exponentially decreases the taller the plant is. In this case? Absolute necessity. I'll bet if you did an 8 to 12 cola mainline per plant you could get half the height and as much if not more yield.

The OP appears to be in a limited space grow tent on LEDs. And it appears hes gone mainline or lst. I'd focus on the canopy, strip the undergrowth, and leave the rest alone. If the bud is worth keeping on the plant, then the top of that branch will bust through the canopy line. If not I remove the entire branch so the plant can focus growth in the canopy.

But that's me. Every set up is different. All the circumstances have variants. And as everyone in this thread knows, there's more than 1 way to skin this cat. As long as the end result is dank bud then it's been done right... to some extent lol :)

 

[smokedareefer]

Soybean defoliation test

"defoliation caused a significant yield reduction (15‐70%) in all cultivars; this yield reduction was greater for Dunbar than the other two cultivars. In both years, yields were directly related to the light interception capacity of soybean canopies after defoliation."

I've grown soy beans in fields ranging from 20 acres to over 100 acres and I've grown cannabis indoors.

Hardly a comparison. Imo

 

[smokedareefer]

Imo your grow style dictates that have have to defoliate. Tall plants, HPS/MH set up. Light penetration exponentially decreases the taller the plant is. In this case? Absolute necessity. I'll bet if you did an 8 to 12 cola mainline per plant you could get half the height and as much if not more yield.

The OP appears to be in a limited space grow tent on LEDs. And it appears hes gone mainline or lst. I'd focus on the canopy, strip the undergrowth, and leave the rest alone. If the bud is worth keeping on the plant, then the top of that branch will bust through the canopy line. If not I remove the entire branch so the plant can focus growth in the canopy.

But that's me. Every set up is different. All the circumstances have variants. And as everyone in this thread knows, there's more than 1 way to skin this cat. As long as the end result is dank bud then it's been done right... to some extent lol :)

Good post, different styles of growing and different reasons why

 

[a4twenty]

When you post a controversial subject such as this you’ll get very passionate butt hurt individuals.
Some no what there talking about some think they no what there talking about and some just want to argue about what there talking about.
Twists and turns but at the end of the day it’s to each there own and grow styles, when it comes to there grow style. There’s no rite or wrong when your dealing with someone’s personal grow and defoliation. What’s rite for you might not be rite for me or visa verse:)

sums it up perfectly.

if you have tried this method and give an opinion, its your own. if you've never tried it and give an opinion, it's someone else's. that doesn't necessarily make it invalid,, neither does it invalidate someone's real life experience.

i wonder what kind of response the first person who tried LST, HST, super cropping etc, etc would have received if the internet was around?

if people want to post info for comparisons, try to compare an apple to an apple not a rutabaga.

and a bit of off topic advice that can help in real life and not just on forums. as soon as you resort condensing and smart ass remarks people tune you out and your message gets ignored.

happy growing everyone

 

[MHippie]

sums it up perfectly.

if you have tried this method and give an opinion, its your own. if you've never tried it and give an opinion, it's someone else's. that doesn't necessarily make it invalid,, neither does it invalidate someone's real life experience.

i wonder what kind of response the first person who tried LST, HST, super cropping etc, etc would have received if the internet was around?

if people want to post info for comparisons, try to compare an apple to an apple not a rutabaga.

and a bit of off topic advice that can help in real life and not just on forums. as soon as you resort condensing and smart ass remarks people tune you out and your message gets ignored.

happy growing everyone

And that right there is exactly what separates the older crowd from those who weren't alive before the internet was.

My mentor's name was Alan. When you walked into his backyard, everything seemed normal. Until you took a very close look at a short what appeared to be a vining shrub that followed his privacy fence line at no more than 2 feet in height.

That was the early 90's. It was stunning to me. Never had seen anyone do that before. But then again he was teaching me bonsai techniques in desert roses before we moved to cannabis.

So the answer is... the reaction was amazement and surprise that plants could be trained to do that.

It's pretty uh different to watch techniques go into play, in circumstances where it can be better served elsewhere, that have previously been tried and discarded as a constant be all end all instead of something that is used selectively, when appropriate.

 

[Glassdub]

Flipping today & this is all the trim I'm comfortable with.

 

[Nukesrt]

Flipping today & this is all the trim I'm comfortable with.

if you do more trimming from now til end of week 3 flower please post

 

[Glassdub]

if you do more trimming from now til end of week 3 flower please post

I likely will, I take in a weekly basis depending how they look.

 

[Elxfeezy]

does removing ALL fan leaves help ? week 3ish

All? Where do you expect them to take in the photo-energy from? Sounds to me like you want to