First grow!!! Any advice appreciated

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Gdawwwg

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I don't like the tab timers. They seem to mess up often. We use a basic digital one.

You may not need a humidifier because the plants themselves humidify the air when they breathe out.
Yes, plants breathe. They breathe out water thru the pores in the leaves.
Or is it just a case of get the set up going. Check rh. And judge from there wich one i need. Was thinking in general what is the easiest way to keep rh optimal percentages
 
SofaKingHigh

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Will post some pics soon as everything ready to go. Yeh im in england rains quite a bit and is cold right now.

I got the ts3000. Actually havent unboxed it yet so maybe i got a timer too. Got the 1.2m x 1.2m tent

Going 4 dwc setup. Preferably one of the haze strains.
Good to hear from someone over the pond! I would say yes to the dehumidifier and like you said get one with a humidistat and possibly one with drain hose to make it easy on yourself and not have to empty all the time.
 
Gdawwwg

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Good to hear from someone over the pond! I would say yes to the dehumidifier and like you said get one with a humidistat and possibly one with drain hose to make it easy on yourself and not have to empty all the time.
Just wish i was at your end of the pond. Not much great to brag about where im living lol. I might just go get both. Keep the small dehumidifier inside the tent. And always got the humidifier there if rh gets really low. Or might try the old cup/jug of water in the tent trick
 
totamus

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I have had about 10 grows now and have made many of the noobie mistakes. It looks like you are planning out so hopefully things go well from the start. It took me a couple of grows before I started getting decent yields.

Personally, I have come to like wick systems with soil. They are easy, cheap, and give good yields.

One of the big noob mistakes is getting a cheap ph and ec pen. I did. Most of us make that mistake. Cheap ph pens can cause you to ruin a grow when you make corrections that werent needed. You want a bluelab ph pen. they are about 3-4X what cheap one costs. I dont recall seeing PAR meter on your list. Without a PAR meter you are only guessing at your light levels.

The other noob mistake is obsessing over your plants, molesting them a dozen times a day and making too many changes too quickly. Keep a grow diary and document feeding, watering, changes to the light, additives, temp etc. When (not if) you have a problem you can look at the diary to see recent changes. Knowing the history irs really the only way to diagnose issues. Here is a news flash: pretty much every problem you run into results in yellow leaves and brown splotches. without the diary, it is hard to tie the problem down.

The worst you can do is make quick decisions and treat the plant before you are sure. Always take your time when you think a plant is sick and look back in your diary to look for significant events.

If you can, use bug bomb in the loft before you start. You want to keep as many pests out as you can.

Good luck
 
ComfortablyNumb

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@Gdawwwg What is your average humidity level where you live?
 
Gdawwwg

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I have had about 10 grows now and have made many of the noobie mistakes. It looks like you are planning out so hopefully things go well from the start. It took me a couple of grows before I started getting decent yields.

Personally, I have come to like wick systems with soil. They are easy, cheap, and give good yields.

One of the big noob mistakes is getting a cheap ph and ec pen. I did. Most of us make that mistake. Cheap ph pens can cause you to ruin a grow when you make corrections that werent needed. You want a bluelab ph pen. they are about 3-4X what cheap one costs. I dont recall seeing PAR meter on your list. Without a PAR meter you are only guessing at your light levels.

The other noob mistake is obsessing over your plants, molesting them a dozen times a day and making too many changes too quickly. Keep a grow diary and document feeding, watering, changes to the light, additives, temp etc. When (not if) you have a problem you can look at the diary to see recent changes. Knowing the history irs really the only way to diagnose issues. Here is a news flash: pretty much every problem you run into results in yellow leaves and brown splotches. without the diary, it is hard to tie the problem down.

The worst you can do is make quick decisions and treat the plant before you are sure. Always take your time when you think a plant is sick and look back in your diary to look for significant events.

If you can, use bug bomb in the loft before you start. You want to keep as many pests out as you can.

Good luck
Each to there own i spose everybody seems to get good yields off various methods as long as they get the environment and feeds right.

Im actually doing another setup soon. Autopot system. Self feeding so see how that method works too. Will be 12-16 plants. Going to start this 4 pot dwc first and put all my time into that.

Bought the pancellent ph and ec meters so no doubt i will have to order a blue lab. Like u said noob mistake

Will definately keep a grow diary and il take a look at bug bomb. Is it ok for the air to just circulate in the loft as i dont have a window or anything up there?
 
Gdawwwg

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Ppm of tap water is 250. Id that too high or is there a way i can use it. Like add something too it. Or use gh hard water nutrients???
 
totamus

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Each to there own i spose everybody seems to get good yields off various methods as long as they get the environment and feeds right.

Im actually doing another setup soon. Autopot system. Self feeding so see how that method works too. Will be 12-16 plants. Going to start this 4 pot dwc first and put all my time into that.

Bought the pancellent ph and ec meters so no doubt i will have to order a blue lab. Like u said noob mistake

Will definately keep a grow diary and il take a look at bug bomb. Is it ok for the air to just circulate in the loft as i dont have a window or anything up there?
If you look at the octopot system, it is identical to the way I grow (Except I DIY the system). Try it sometime - I am astonished.

I am not sure if your air circulation is in regard to temp, humidity or smell. If it is truly closed, I would wonder if the available CO2 might get too low as the plants absorb and convert to Oxygen. The smell will definitely be off the charts in the loft. In the US, we usually call that space an attic, and there are vents under the roof overhang to prevent moisture build up and damage. If there is a vent available, you could make good use of it.
 
ComfortablyNumb

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@Gdawwwg how much room do you have around the tent? You might be able to build a lung room. It's a small room that you dehumidify and cool the air if necessary before it goes in the tent. Your de-huey will go in there.

And since you will be growing DWC, let me call the Mr. DWC to help out. YO! @Aqua Man or @Dirtbag
There are lots of great growers here and these two will get you all set up the right way.
 
Gdawwwg

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@Gdawwwg how much room do you have around the tent? You might be able to build a lung room. It's a small room that you dehumidify and cool the air if necessary before it goes in the tent. Your de-huey will go in there.

And since you will be growing DWC, let me call the Mr. DWC to help out. YO! @Aqua Man or @Dirtbag
There are lots of great growers here and these two will get you all set up the right way.
Not a lot of room left there. Only boarded out enough for the tent and like a metre spare next to it to place bits outside tent. Like airpump etc

I need all the help i can get lol
 
Edinburgh

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Well I have a viperspectra 600w 2 cycle reflector series $150 delivered, a great veg light so good I bought another light, however I also have a California light works bloom booster so do not know how light operates in bloom mode, I grow autoflowers and they do much better and yield higher under blue light this is bc a full spec light has red and ir in it causing autoflowers to go into flower prematurely affecting yield, if your going to run autoflowers this is a good light, if your going to run photoperiod plants spider farmer would be a better option, however viperspectra has come out with full spec lights some for large grows and cobs, Mars sucks steer clear customer service is non existant, if you want to spend serious cash black dog and California lightworks have good lights.
 
Gdawwwg

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Kits alreasy ordered
. Mars hydro 1.2x1.2x2m
.mars ts3000
. Mars ventilation system with thermostat
. 4 iws oxypot single buckets wth netpots+clay balls
. 2 clip on fans
. Hailea 8 outlet pump +8 airstones(2 each bucket)
. Pro breeze dehumidifier
. Humidifier(forgot brand)
. Humidistat controller
. Pancelent ph+tds meter(upgrade to bluelab eventually)
. Digital thermometer
. Ph up amd down
. Measuring jugs etc for nutes
. Scrog net + garden ties
. Gh trio nutes(hard water micro)
. Trimming pruning scissors

All thats left to order is
. Orca liquid(for roots)
. Clones
Think im all good to go next week or so!!!!
 
Jdean1974

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Yes its a marshydro light. Iv only seen good reviews tbh. Thats what swayed me towards them.
I have 2 200w mars hydro lights in my tent. They work great and I keep the drivers outside the tent to keep heat out.
For hydo, make sure you not dumping nute water on top of nute water. I am not sure if you planing on refilling your buckets or empty then refill with fresh nute mixed water but watch your ppm or it could burn your plants. I use filtered tap water instead of ro so i can keep some base nutrients.
well good luck!
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Gdawwwg

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I have 2 200w mars hydro lights in my tent. They work great and I keep the drivers outside the tent to keep heat out.
For hydo, make sure you not dumping nute water on top of nute water. I am not sure if you planing on refilling your buckets or empty then refill with fresh nute mixed water but watch your ppm or it could burn your plants. I use filtered tap water instead of ro so i can keep some base nutrients.
well good luck!
D
I was planning on doing a full empty and change once every week. Although i hear some people stretch it to 2 weeks. Unless i get to a stage where they are drinking way more. Lets say bucket is half what it should be and its only been three days since nute change. I would just top of with phd water.

How do u filter your tap water? Thats my main worry. My tap water is sitting at roughly 250ppm.i was thinking of getting a zero water 4.7l filter but would take forever. So maybe half filtered, half straight tap water.

Does the filtered water work for you? And what do you use?
 
TerpiestToker420

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First time grower here too.

when you buy an EC/pH pen, look at what the calibration fluids cost. Mostly they are a little off from other brands. And in the long run, this is what you are going to spend most money on.

I noticed thatmost people use bluelab. I’ve got an Aquamaster. As long as you don’t buy a cheap $30/€30 piece, you should be good.
My $45 Milwaukee ph meter has been one of my better investments things never let me down and rarely needs recalibration :))
 

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