And should I add hydroguard to a running system, little by little, or will the chance happen that it shocks the plants? I don’t find any info yet. Only to put in it at 2ml/LCorrect below the net pot
And if they don’t touch the net pot. How will they get nutritions to grow roots?Correct below the net pot
Yeah add at half strength. Hydrogaurd is a bacteria it won't do any harm. Just an expensive waste if over dosedAnd should I add hydroguard to a running system, little by little, or will the chance happen that it shocks the plants? I don’t find any info yet. Only to put in it at 2ml/L
pH is about to settle at 5.7 I think
What do you mean “at half strength”? 50/50 hydroguard/RO water?Yeah add at half strength. Hydrogaurd is a bacteria it won't do any harm. Just an expensive waste if over dosed
You have airstone in each bucket right?And if they don’t touch the net pot. How will they get nutritions to grow roots?
Thank you!!!You have airstone in each bucket right?
The bubbles breaking the surface mist the bottom of the net pot and you top feed I would say with RW every 2-3 days. In peat or rapids everyday until the roots hot the water. The air Goin in means air coming out from the hydroton. This is very humid so the roots don't dry when the 2 are combined. Because they were started in a cube they need to transition and if the RW stays soaked there is no gas exchange unless running a constant top feed loop as some do for the first week for that reason.
They need air but they need to stay in 100% humidity so they don't air prune or become damaged.
After they have a bit of roots in the water they will have plenty of dissolved o2 and you can raise the water level if you like. I keep mine 1". And don't listen to the bro science of lowering g your water so the roots grow better to seek it out. The bubbles breaking the surface keep the roots coming put of the net pot misted and if it to low that's when you often see then slightly turn brown compared to the submerge root and often after that root rot sets in.. 9/10 you see it start I the area between the water level and the net pot.
That's hydro block the others up. System has to be level.What do you mean “at half strength”? 50/50 hydroguard/RO water?
and if i dont let te water touch the netpots, at the highest pot, its at least 2 inches in the lowest pot (difference in floor height)
The plants are doing better. Looks like some even had some growth on the new nodes.That's hydro block the others up. System has to be level.
Hydrogaurd at half the recommended dose.
Think 1ml per L or gal is half? I'd have to look at my bottle if it's still around. Prob threw it out since it would be expired like 2 yrs now.
So I’ve seen that some leaves are crumpling. There are these 2 plants that have the same crumple, ar the same spot. Could it be because of the wind?That's hydro block the others up. System has to be level.
Hydrogaurd at half the recommended dose.
Think 1ml per L or gal is half? I'd have to look at my bottle if it's still around. Prob threw it out since it would be expired like 2 yrs now.
Hey man.That's hydro block the others up. System has to be level.
Hydrogaurd at half the recommended dose.
Think 1ml per L or gal is half? I'd have to look at my bottle if it's still around. Prob threw it out since it would be expired like 2 yrs now.
The new growth is a lixed bag. Some plants barely had new growth, maybe none. Others did good. Some of them the new growth is yellowish tho. I’ll add some pics in 5 minutes. Then you can compare them with the ones from yesterday.how do your new nodes look? I wouldnt worry about old growth as much as new growth.
I don’t really see any new growth if I compare the photo’s. So it’s hard to tell.how do your new nodes look? I wouldnt worry about old growth as much as new growth.
I’m having fresh RO water ready to make a new solution.So I havnt been following as well as I should, you and Aqua gotta lot going on. Yall both lost me lol. . So to add a different train of thought. .
I looked at your nutrients, it looks like they try to copy the flora trio series. If so, do you use calmag? Then im wondering what kind of plugs those clones were in, they looked amazing honestly. Im more less wondering if the plugs where ph neutral and did they have feed in them?
So, in my experience, once there are roots, or the stem and first node is above the bucket lids, I fill the pots with water. I like to keep my rockwool completely submerged under water. The hydroguard will promote growth by keeping the roots clean and destroying pythium. I see on here Aqua is recommending to keep water level under the netpot for misting, which im sure works. I just never do that and I find it also works too. So yea, ill recommend trying to fill the system, this will allow whatever was left in those plugs to exit and dissipate into the water. This will also make it easier for the BB to make a lovely home inside your starter plugs.
If your stems on new growth are red, I find it means its overfed. For your stage right now, with those nutrients, I would be at 225ppm, or .3ec. I find there are 3 options. Not feeding it a specific nutrient, feeding it a nutrient, and overfeeding it a nutrient. Basically if you make a fresh batch at 225, it might not sound like its enough, but I can assure you it is. Now how long that solution will last is dependent on how many plants you have and your res size. I have 6 plants in an 80 gallon system so it lasts a while. For example my sprouts will be at this 225 ppm, and they just broke surface, first node opening. Im going to fill the tote the rest of the way today, and I wont add more nutrients until my ppm is about 150.
Im not the best at chemistry, but im pretty good at helping others figure shit out somehow lol. . .Anyways, just a thought. Hell id let a few drops of clonex gel slide down into the plugs first. Then perhaps a slight top feed to wash it down low.
Like I dont see how this isnt an uptake problem. Ive also have only been growing for a short time so dont do anything I say, unless it makes sense to you. I just know what id be doing if I were you lol.
Also to add. Yesterday was the first day that I was home to see the lights go off. Normally I go to work and the lights go off and back on before I come home. NOW. Yesterday I saw my timer of 1 600W light was malfunctioning. So it’s possible that it stayed on 24h a day. It swicthed of the moment I took the plastic cover of. I’m going to see today if he is going to shut off on it’s own. Maybe that is also the cause of the problem that I’m having? Altho the leaf tha I showed you, looks like it has gotten worse overnight…So I havnt been following as well as I should, you and Aqua gotta lot going on. Yall both lost me lol. . So to add a different train of thought. .
I looked at your nutrients, it looks like they try to copy the flora trio series. If so, do you use calmag? Then im wondering what kind of plugs those clones were in, they looked amazing honestly. Im more less wondering if the plugs where ph neutral and did they have feed in them?
So, in my experience, once there are roots, or the stem and first node is above the bucket lids, I fill the pots with water. I like to keep my rockwool completely submerged under water. The hydroguard will promote growth by keeping the roots clean and destroying pythium. I see on here Aqua is recommending to keep water level under the netpot for misting, which im sure works. I just never do that and I find it also works too. So yea, ill recommend trying to fill the system, this will allow whatever was left in those plugs to exit and dissipate into the water. This will also make it easier for the BB to make a lovely home inside your starter plugs.
If your stems on new growth are red, I find it means its overfed(unless too much light). For your stage right now, with those nutrients, I would be at 225ppm, or .3ec. I find there are 3 options. Not feeding it a specific nutrient, feeding it a nutrient, and overfeeding it a nutrient. Basically if you make a fresh batch at 225, it might not sound like its enough, but I can assure you it is. Now how long that solution will last is dependent on how many plants you have and your res size. I have 6 plants in an 80 gallon system so it lasts a while. For example my sprouts will be at this 225 ppm, and they just broke surface, first node opening. Im going to fill the tote the rest of the way today, and I wont add more nutrients until my ppm is about 150.
Im not the best at chemistry, but im pretty good at helping others figure shit out somehow lol. . .Anyways, just a thought. Hell id let a few drops of clonex gel slide down into the plugs first. Then perhaps a slight top feed to wash it down low.
Like I dont see how this isnt an uptake problem. Ive also have only been growing for a short time so dont do anything I say, unless it makes sense to you. I just know what id be doing if I were you lol.
My 80 gallon has been sitting for almost a month, i just keep topping it off, ive added over 50 gallon so far. As long as you dont get root rot, it will last until you dump it.I don’t really see any new growth if I compare the photo’s. So it’s hard to tell.
I’m having fresh RO water ready to make a new solution.
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this is the same plant. The leaf that I’m holding has gotten worse the last days. The first pic is today.
So I was really planning to make a nutrition solution that’s stronger, before your reply. I honestly just used the Tri-part, Hydroguard and balanced my pH. I didn’t use Cal-Mag. As I was told that it’s a supplement and to wait with supplements to decrease the chance of lock-out. There is already cal-mag in the tri-part to. Should I add 2ml/L anyway in the new batch? Should I flush with pH balanced tapwater first?
also: I’m maybe was stupid, but I filled my next reservoir on Friday. How long does RO water with very little nutrition in it (still 0.0EC) stay good before it goed stale? And will it last another week when I add it on (original plan was) Wensday?
I use RO water, it goes to 0,0EC.My 80 gallon has been sitting for almost a month, i just keep topping it off, ive added over 50 gallon so far. As long as you dont get root rot, it will last until you dump it.
So yea im not famaliar with those nutrients, but being the plant in the picture im looking at is doing good, id say they work without calmag? Idk, i like regular trio with calmag. That stuff says its mixed in, perhaps it is, yea lets just assume it is. So if you were overfeeding that one plant there would have red stems too.
Im still gonna say they are having a hard time pulling the nutrients up to them. Yet when they do, like this one pictured, they will be fine? Id have to see a top shot of that new growth on this one thats going well.
Basically if you have a few that go perfect, yet most die, it was prolly the plugs not allowing the solution to get to the plant? What plugs are those?
Edit: do you use RO water?
My 80 gallon has been sitting for almost a month, i just keep topping it off, ive added over 50 gallon so far. As long as you dont get root rot, it will last until you dump it.
So yea im not famaliar with those nutrients, but being the plant in the picture im looking at is doing good, id say they work without calmag? Idk, i like regular trio with calmag. That stuff says its mixed in, perhaps it is, yea lets just assume it is. So if you were overfeeding that one plant there would have red stems too.
Im still gonna say they are having a hard time pulling the nutrients up to them. Yet when they do, like this one pictured, they will be fine? Id have to see a top shot of that new growth on this one thats going well.
Basically if you have a few that go perfect, yet most die, it was prolly the plugs not allowing the solution to get to the plant? What plugs are those?
Edit: do you use RO water?
Oh no. I think i got a pest…Are they flowering??? I swear it looks like 2 of them are getting pistols hairs.
All those plants will be fine in the pictures. All of them have have good new growth, and most of the growth can sustain.
Id also raise the room temps a bit.
Show some top pics of the plants your worried most about. Cause those will be fine. At this point to ease your mind you can even cut off the bad leafs on those pictured. Theres enough new growth to say the grow will be fine. I say clip it so you wont think there are issues. Now if those top new fan leafs were all distorted sure, its still got issues. But you wont be fixing the damage in leafs caused by issues, so instead of looking at it all the time, snip them off. Since they are not dead though, they will still help with growth. I only say removing them to ease your mind lol..
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