Aqua Man said:

If anyone runs into these issues please report it and don’t let yourself get caught up in it.

Its important that the members here communicate in a reasonable manner.

Debating is a VERY important part of learning in this community and sometimes it gets heated.… thats inevitable. Sometimes the tone just needs to be taken down a bit and we have all been guilty of that to an extent…. BUT NOTHING IS LEARNED through personal insults and attacks.

Enough of that shit happens all over the toxic net daily…. But not here and thats just one of many things that sets this site apart.…. this is a community and we want to keep it that way.

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Novaracer69 said:

I am a easy going old guy I really didn't understand why he was so upset over my personal opinion. Thank you I will report it next time.

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Aqua Man said:

We all get heated at one point or another… we are only human… well i hope lol.

I dont blame him for debating his opinion passionately… i blame him for being an asshole when doing so

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Sameperson775 said:

Shit with this conversation I should just jump in and say I think with zero evidence and a half ass plant environment I can confidently say VPD is a hoax from big mold! Don't fall for it people. PPFD! Are you kidding me! What a joke, big electrical got you fuckers good. I use one night light per 5x5 and I grow the darkest weed you'll never see, FACTS. I flush for 25 weeks and my ash burns clear, fuck cops can't even see or smell my weed it like it's invisible to them. Such a head high. Matter if fact I think the high is all in my head.

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Sameperson775 said:

That's funny because I was given a warning before I ever called him retarded so another shit point from this site. Good old echo chamber of feelings and emotions. Like I said this "cannabis community" would never have happened without outlaws doing what they do and you're surprised that some of us don't give a fuck about feelings. Go ahead and build your safe space but don't tell me what the fuck I will and will not say just ban me like a pussy or go sit the fuck down dad.

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ChewyCharlie said:

Lol Fuck VPD I aint pushin high ass humidity in flower aint worth the risk.
Also i feed the pigs all the way up to slaughter. The fatter the better.

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crossfader said:

You upset bro? You must be fun at parties. Can the powers that be ban this fucking idiot?

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RootsRuler said:

But he's an outlaw............. .......

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Aqua Man said:

Most misuse VPD imo.

These online charts are a huge culprit. You cannot use VPD correctly without leaf temps. If you actually look and VPD properly taking leaf temp into accounts its pretty much exactly the parameters that all the people who say its a hoax are running.

I would say that still more people than not who use VPD are using it wrong.

Its also more dangerous mold wise to have a humidity thats to dry during the light cycle and then to humid with poor air movement over the dark cycle because many do not see how much their temp change after lights out is affecting humidity. Having dry then moist periods will put things like PM on steroids

Low humidity is actually more dangerous than high humidity and there are plenty of studies coning out that show we have it very wrong on how we think in terms of PM and the likes.

Its no secret though that its all about the microclimates. you can have low room humidity and very high humidity microclimates

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RootsRuler said:

Would you feel better if you knew those using them are armed with an infrared laser thermometer to read leaf temps?

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Aqua Man said:

Maybe i could sleep at night then lol

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MartyMcFly42oh said:

So this thread caught my attention, and I definitely see the benefit of removing excess salts from your growing medium towards the end of, or after your grow…..if you’re using bottled nutrients. That being said I don’t think it works on the actual plant material like a lot of people might think. It’s more for the benefit of the soil and if it is reused , and what is grown in it next. I’m not an expert, scientist or even trying to tell anyone what to do personally…..it’s just my opinion. But interestingly enough I don’t flush my soil because I’m growing with dry amendments, earthworm castings, peat moss and perlite. I’m not adding any salt based nutrients so no need to flush. I started doing this after watching this video with Kyle Kushman, where he explained why he grows organic. He says something to the effect that when the plant takes in organic nitrogen available to it, it will have nitrogen in it in molecular form up until combustion. When the plant takes up ammoniacal nitrogen that, that compound stays in the plant until combustion. He says that the temperature at which point that ammoniacal nitrogen combust is much hotter than plain old nitrogen. Okay again not a scientist but the host of the video chimes in and mentions that they personally stopped smoking non organic weed because of sore throats after smoking a few times each day. After going organic the consumption rate stayed the same but the sore throats went away. I had been experiencing the same thing. The first couple times I smoked I was fine, but by the afternoon I would get a nagging sore throat. So I slowly transitioned from using bottled nutrients to dry amendments over the past year, and the last four or five plants I grew produced a smoother smoke. I guess I went a little off subject there, but I don’t know if anyone else has any insight?

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MartyMcFly42oh said:

So this thread caught my attention, and I definitely see the benefit of removing excess salts from your growing medium towards the end of, or after your grow…..if you’re using bottled nutrients. That being said I don’t think it works on the actual plant material like a lot of people might think. It’s more for the benefit of the soil and if it is reused , and what is grown in it next. I’m not an expert, scientist or even trying to tell anyone what to do personally…..it’s just my opinion. But interestingly enough I don’t flush my soil because I’m growing with dry amendments, earthworm castings, peat moss and perlite. I’m not adding any salt based nutrients so no need to flush. I started doing this after watching this video with Kyle Kushman, where he explained why he grows organic. He says something to the effect that when the plant takes in organic nitrogen available to it, it will have nitrogen in it in molecular form up until combustion. When the plant takes up ammoniacal nitrogen that, that compound stays in the plant until combustion. He says that the temperature at which point that ammoniacal nitrogen combust is much hotter than plain old nitrogen. Okay again not a scientist but the host of the video chimes in and mentions that they personally stopped smoking non organic weed because of sore throats after smoking a few times each day. After going organic the consumption rate stayed the same but the sore throats went away. I had been experiencing the same thing. The first couple times I smoked I was fine, but by the afternoon I would get a nagging sore throat. So I slowly transitioned from using bottled nutrients to dry amendments over the past year, and the last four or five plants I grew produced a smoother smoke. I guess I went a little off subject there, but I don’t know if anyone else has any insight?

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