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What's the reason behind that expectation?I'll also say it is my expectation that the PPM of the nutes in this system will be less than half what I run in RDWC.
What's the reason behind that expectation?I'll also say it is my expectation that the PPM of the nutes in this system will be less than half what I run in RDWC.
For some reason I cannot see the PDF. Is this like researchgate where you need credentials to see everything?Great point. Also, I knew it was too good of an idea to not have been thought of before.
(PDF) Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants
Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants With Microscale Needle Probes by Eunyong JEON, Sangwoong BAEK, Seungyul CHOI, Kyoung Sub PARK,research.amanote.com
I went down a rabbit hole...
Because the water volume needs to stay high to allow for proper respiration.What's the reason behind that expectation?
That makes sense.Because the water volume needs to stay high to allow for proper respiration.
In a given day, a plant needs X salts and X liters of water to be optimal. It is my belief that because there is no water supply constantly washing away salts, I need to deliver the correct ratios for a system that uses all the input and does not recycle.
With RDWC, there are more salts in the water than the plant can use given the volume of water they are in. For Fog, I think I need to match that perfectly, meaning lower PPM.
I could be wrong. That's why I have 4 separate systems. I'll run one at normal RDWC levels, and the others lower. Nute burn should make my theory obviously correct, or disprove it pretty quick.
I know right! I love this puzzle.That makes sense.
I suppose my logic went more the way of needing higher PPMs because the plant doesn't have a constant availability like when dipped into their nutrient solution.
I wonder, too, how the added oxygen/air exchange and water droplet-size will effect it.
And further yet, how root responses will come into play... it's my understanding that they're able to secrete a myriad of organic molecules as responses to whatever stimuli.
Sorry, got my head in the clouds. Good stuff!
Maybe a hybrid system?...
Maybe I'll find I have to spray the roots from time to time to wash off exudates...
If that's what it takes!Maybe a hybrid system?
Fog for the nutrient delivery; sprayers set to periodically clean the pipes?
Just to, you know, add more moving parts.
That's what I was thinking.Maybe a hybrid system?
Fog for the nutrient delivery; sprayers set to periodically clean the pipes?
Just to, you know, add more moving parts.
Interesting Idea.That's what I was thinking.
Also, the difference in ppm/tds/ec from fog source vs what's dropped in the bottom of the res could, over time, give you plot points of uptake during growth phases.
With some ML, you could probably take that and apply it over full grow. A feedback loop set at if A=x% of B then do this(action).
Hope this works.
(PDF) Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants
Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants With Microscale Needle Probes by Eunyong JEON, Sangwoong BAEK, Seungyul CHOI, Kyoung Sub PARK,research.amanote.com
I think that lnk should work.
Oh I like that"If everything seems in control, you are not moving fast enough." - Mario Andretti
Found it hereThat's what I was thinking.
Also, the difference in ppm/tds/ec from fog source vs what's dropped in the bottom of the res could, over time, give you plot points of uptake during growth phases.
With some ML, you could probably take that and apply it over full grow. A feedback loop set at if A=x% of B then do this(action).
Hope this works.
(PDF) Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants
Real-Time Monitoring of Electroconductivity in Plants With Microscale Needle Probes by Eunyong JEON, Sangwoong BAEK, Seungyul CHOI, Kyoung Sub PARK,research.amanote.com
I think that lnk should work.
Absolutely brotherā¦ when you get time you can give me a call maybe tomorrowFound it here
Reading now.
EDIT: Holy Shit
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@Aqua Man you seeing this shit? I'm sure I could do that if you could help me interpret.
Often the reverse is true for me.Oh I like that
Man where did you come from? I gotta hear the backstory. You are just full of crazy ideas. We might need to figure out how to bottle that so you can share.Ever see the mouse breathing under water/liquid?
Perfluorocarbon-based oxygen carriers: from physics to physiology....
Therefore, the molecular ratio of dissolved O2 is 1 O2:200water in water, but 5 O2:1PFD in PFD, resulting in a 1000Ć increased molecular solubility for PFD compared to water
Infuse perfluorocarbon with O2 turn into fog and you'd have a fog cloud with 5:1 O2.
Hey @Moshmen, I got 9 out of 10, not too bad. Some came up a little weird, but you get that sometimes. 1st one cracked in 24 hours, last one 5+ days.
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nice wonderi if that last one might pop in a day or 2
I think it is a dud but still trying.nice wonderi if that last one might pop in a day or 2
Yeah im PUMPEDā¦ see how i spelt that this timeā¦ lol. Thisbis going to be far more exciting that the usual hydro grows.I think it is a dud but still trying.
So this weekend I get that AC control box sorted then get the new system mounted and probes in the tank and tent. We will see what's happening with O2 and everything else.
I gotta tell you, I love this setup. Pushing 90% O2 vapor thru that coco? I've never seen anything like that done before.