Gavita Lighting Sold To Scotts Miracle-gro For $136 Million

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Hey man that is awesome i am mid 50's and keep up shit most cannot keep up with me but again it all falls back on your family genetics my father is over 88 and healthy strong and still working on the farm
you mention your in your 60's and only a few years left ???
Whats wrong with you ??? i know i am going
to be around min another 35 years

but anyways Truth is most farmers embrace GMO sseds cause ay the end of the day its cuts operating costs down tremendously which means more toys )
How many old fuckers you know that can go 0 - 260 mph in less then 5 seconds lol
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Cant believe I am late for this one. GMO's my favorite subject.
There is no scientific consensus on the safety of GMOs.

According to a 2015 statement signed by 300 scientists, physicians and scholars, the claim of scientific consensus on GMOs frequently repeated in the media is “an artificial construct that has been falsely perpetuated.”

To date, there have been no epidemiological studies investigating potential effects of GMO food on human health.

Most of the research used to claim that GMOs are safe has been performed by biotechnology companies.

A comprehensive review of peer-reviewed animal feeding studies of GMOs found roughly an equal number of research groups raising concerns about genetically engineered foods and those suggesting GMOs were as safe and nutritious as conventional foods. The review also found that most studies finding GMOs foods the same as conventional foods were performed by biotechnology companies or their associates.

now here is a link for a downloadable PDF file Titled "GMO Facts and Myths". Very long read keep it on your desktop and pass it around to the ones you love. There is clear eveidence that the ones/ meaning the regulatory committees worldwide have pulled the wool down over everyone's eyes when it comes to saying GMO's are safe. You will be astounded by the level of graft and corruption when it comes to Monsanto and the folks that are supposed to keep us safe. http://livingnongmo.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/GMO-Myths-and-Truths-edition2.pdf
 
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When will people learn we have been genetically modifying crops for millennia
we make hybrid strains from a sativa land race grown near the equator and breed it with indica grown lets say 60 degrees N latitude
producing a hybrid strain what have we just done here ??? something that would never of pollinated in a million years oh wait maybe in 5oo million years when the tectonic plates might collide lol seriously you genetically modified to species that would of never met although they may have come at one time from the same region they evolved

Now really one of the biggest epidemics in usa is obesity but now your advocates of eating healthy ???
whats shocking is whats the big deal seriously I mean so easy to point a finger at someone and say your bad ..
either don't eat GMO or do eat it again your going to die anyways sooner or later
Think about it since the introduction of GMO and USA fertility rate being up there are we seeing Zombie mutant off spring ?? Actually its amazing your living longer then your ancestors ever did but GMO are bad

This has turned into a kiddie bickering match.think ill go read something useful.thanks.

Your right people bikering over nothing And who starting what something i posted weeks ago to have some other member come in an try to start something ??? you act like a 12 year old what the hell kind of a post is that
Oh wait i know cause a well known member KEN got banned in here
So this clown figures he is going to crank my gears and try to get me banned
who is the kid here ??

Everyone is so concerned about monsanto and GMO yet afraid to look in the mirror lets see here growers that drain to waste thats all good right ??? that phos being poured down the drain but put all the blame on cattle farmers you know the ones putting the beef on the table for you ..
Or how about you best be selling your car you know your contributing to global warming fucking walk to work lol where does it end

maybe people should start pointing the fingers at them selfs cause were all just fucking angels now aren't we .

Business is business you be shocked at who owns who but now its monsanto and Gavita and your all about boycott well then don't buy Gavita go buy Mars LED and be on your way lol since when has there been a gun to your head on buying anything
Look at the bright side maybe Monsanto will open up a shop close to you and you can finally get a job ..

The moral of the story is who Cares Gavitas kick ass its your loss and there are tons of corporations that own other companies

Sad truth is most people would be shocked who owns who when a company is incorporated you can have like 10 companies under that company but different names HERE is good one FUTURE SHOP still remains the name yet BEST BUY OWNS THEM
same thing applies with food manufacturing companies but some how it gets leaked out possibly from top end employees that get laid off or fired ,,
Remember back when you watched The Matrix for the first time and ran down to the store to buy sunglasses and a trench coat? There were so many sunglass brands to choose from: Oakley, Ray-Ban, Revo, Vogue, DKNY, and if you must have only the best, $500 designer glasses from Prada and BVLGARI (which has that V-instead-of-a-U thing, so you know it's classy like ancient Rome). All sunglasses are made by luxottica
Well, at least you get to pick between stores, right? If the people at the LensCrafters are being dicks while selling you different glasses all made by Luxottica, you can show them what you think of that by taking your business across the mall to the Pearle Vision. Or maybe the Sears or Target optical departments. Except that they are also all owned by Luxottica. Just for the sake of argument let's say that you're not a squinty-eyed nerd, so you pass by the prescription shops and go right to the Sunglass Hut. You guessed it. Luxottica.

Like an omnipresent starchy deity, corn is everywhere. Savvy consumers know that it doesn't just stop at corn on the cob. Word has gotten out that corn syrup turns up in almost every candy and soda, and is as addictive as crack. But how about Febreze? Hand sanitizers? Ethanol car fuel? That's all corn, too. Making rubber tires? You'll need corn starch. Spark plugs? Corn. Drywall? Corn. You can't build a car or a house without corn.
Whoever controls the corn controls ... maybe not the universe, but a lot of money. And the king of American corn is Monsanto, a biotech company. Unlike evil movie biotech companies -- with their dubious business models of inventing mutants or viruses that kill everyone -- Monsanto built their empire on a pretty boring one two punch: weed killer and seeds.
The weed killer, Roundup, is the biggest selling herbicide in the world. The seeds are genetically engineered corn seeds that are immune to Roundup. If you want to grow corn and kill weeds that hurt the corn, Monsanto has the best product on the market by a mile. That's why 80 percent of all corn planted in the U.S. goes into the ground with Monsanto's trademark on it.
But plants will be plants, and make more seeds, so the farmers don't have to keep buying Monsanto seeds year after year, right? Don't be silly. Monsanto's not going to let their money run away like that. Their first plan was to incorporate something called a "Terminator" (otherwise known as the "let's just stop pretending we're not evil") gene that automatically sterilizes the plant so it can't make any more seeds. Then farmers have to buy new seeds every time they plant, just like nature intended.

People objected to this quite a bit for some reason, forcing Monsanto to back down and instead just make farmers sign a contract saying that they won't use the seeds the plants make ... or else. So instead of screwing farmers with a terminatorgene, they're just asking the farmers to agree to screw themselves.

So the next time you're deciding between a Coke or a Pepsi (or between a Firestone or a Goodyear), know that whichever way you go, you're buying Monsanto. You're welcome!
 
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When will people learn we have been genetically modifying crops for millennia
we make hybrid strains from a sativa land race grown near the equator and breed it with indica grown lets say 60 degrees N latitude
producing a hybrid strain what have we just done here ??? something that would never of pollinated in a million years oh wait maybe in 5oo million years when the tectonic plates might collide lol seriously you genetically modified to species that would of never met although they may have come at one time from the same region they evolved

Now really one of the biggest epidemics in usa is obesity but now your advocates of eating healthy ???
whats shocking is whats the big deal seriously I mean so easy to point a finger at someone and say your bad ..
either don't eat GMO or do eat it again your going to die anyways sooner or later
Think about it since the introduction of GMO and USA fertility rate being up there are we seeing Zombie mutant off spring ?? Actually its amazing your living longer then your ancestors ever did but GMO are bad



Your right people bikering over nothing And who starting what something i posted weeks ago to have some other member come in an try to start something ??? you act like a 12 year old what the hell kind of a post is that
Oh wait i know cause a well known member KEN got banned in here
So this clown figures he is going to crank my gears and try to get me banned
who is the kid here ??

Everyone is so concerned about monsanto and GMO yet afraid to look in the mirror lets see here growers that drain to waste thats all good right ??? that phos being poured down the drain but put all the blame on cattle farmers you know the ones putting the beef on the table for you ..
Or how about you best be selling your car you know your contributing to global warming fucking walk to work lol where does it end

maybe people should start pointing the fingers at them selfs cause were all just fucking angels now aren't we .

Business is business you be shocked at who owns who but now its monsanto and Gavita and your all about boycott well then don't buy Gavita go buy Mars LED and be on your way lol since when has there been a gun to your head on buying anything
Look at the bright side maybe Monsanto will open up a shop close to you and you can finally get a job ..

The moral of the story is who Cares Gavitas kick ass its your loss and there are tons of corporations that own other companies

Sad truth is most people would be shocked who owns who when a company is incorporated you can have like 10 companies under that company but different names HERE is good one FUTURE SHOP still remains the name yet BEST BUY OWNS THEM
same thing applies with food manufacturing companies but some how it gets leaked out possibly from top end employees that get laid off or fired ,,
Remember back when you watched The Matrix for the first time and ran down to the store to buy sunglasses and a trench coat? There were so many sunglass brands to choose from: Oakley, Ray-Ban, Revo, Vogue, DKNY, and if you must have only the best, $500 designer glasses from Prada and BVLGARI (which has that V-instead-of-a-U thing, so you know it's classy like ancient Rome). All sunglasses are made by luxottica
Well, at least you get to pick between stores, right? If the people at the LensCrafters are being dicks while selling you different glasses all made by Luxottica, you can show them what you think of that by taking your business across the mall to the Pearle Vision. Or maybe the Sears or Target optical departments. Except that they are also all owned by Luxottica. Just for the sake of argument let's say that you're not a squinty-eyed nerd, so you pass by the prescription shops and go right to the Sunglass Hut. You guessed it. Luxottica.

Like an omnipresent starchy deity, corn is everywhere. Savvy consumers know that it doesn't just stop at corn on the cob. Word has gotten out that corn syrup turns up in almost every candy and soda, and is as addictive as crack. But how about Febreze? Hand sanitizers? Ethanol car fuel? That's all corn, too. Making rubber tires? You'll need corn starch. Spark plugs? Corn. Drywall? Corn. You can't build a car or a house without corn.
Whoever controls the corn controls ... maybe not the universe, but a lot of money. And the king of American corn is Monsanto, a biotech company. Unlike evil movie biotech companies -- with their dubious business models of inventing mutants or viruses that kill everyone -- Monsanto built their empire on a pretty boring one two punch: weed killer and seeds.
The weed killer, Roundup, is the biggest selling herbicide in the world. The seeds are genetically engineered corn seeds that are immune to Roundup. If you want to grow corn and kill weeds that hurt the corn, Monsanto has the best product on the market by a mile. That's why 80 percent of all corn planted in the U.S. goes into the ground with Monsanto's trademark on it.
But plants will be plants, and make more seeds, so the farmers don't have to keep buying Monsanto seeds year after year, right? Don't be silly. Monsanto's not going to let their money run away like that. Their first plan was to incorporate something called a "Terminator" (otherwise known as the "let's just stop pretending we're not evil") gene that automatically sterilizes the plant so it can't make any more seeds. Then farmers have to buy new seeds every time they plant, just like nature intended.

People objected to this quite a bit for some reason, forcing Monsanto to back down and instead just make farmers sign a contract saying that they won't use the seeds the plants make ... or else. So instead of screwing farmers with a terminatorgene, they're just asking the farmers to agree to screw themselves.

So the next time you're deciding between a Coke or a Pepsi (or between a Firestone or a Goodyear), know that whichever way you go, you're buying Monsanto. You're welcome!
Lazy Farming and more toy buying..yeeeehaaaaw!
Indiscriminate pesticide and herbicide use causes super-weeds and pesticide resistant bugs. It may line pockets, but it's only temporary..not sustainable.

Less than 10% of US corn crops go to making anything besides animal feed and biofuel.
Multitudes of countries outside of the US are banning GMO food crops.
Bt corn causes widespread exposure to pests, causing quicker and greater resistance to an otherwise helpful biopesticide. This causes 40% of Bt Corn farmers to resort to more dangerous pesticides in addition.
RoundUp Ready Corn causes super-weeds and the levels of glyphosate use have to be increased yearly. Monsanto's answer is a new herbicide called dicamba..well it's new, sort of..comes from the family of chemicals that produced agent orange.
No doubt corrupted agencies will approve it and it will bring the same problems and with it, possibly new ones.
You see, we have been farming without Monsanto for a very long time. GMO and GMO products are the new guys.
It's mostly fluff and market cornering..real answers to the difficulties of farming lie in crop rotation and responsible use of chemicals. AKA sustainable farming and husbandry. Just ask the Indian Farmers how well their GM Cotton has been performing..the answer lies in a huge pile of bodies that commit suicide after crop failure.
 
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Actually GMO crops use less pesticides then traditional farming its more efficient then traditional farming lets break this really done shall we
The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned. And please do not blame this on GMO's
USA alone is losing 10 acres per minute you think growing organic is a better choice for one for organic be or even compete with agricultural practices today you need double the land
To compete , let alone climate change when was the last time you looked at disasters in the world let alone usa recent italy Earth quake ? what about the fires raging in USA any crops being burnt to the ground
people got to stop living there shallow lives in a 600 sq foot 1 bedroom apt
TBH with whats going on in the world today chine storing millions of tons of rice in a area where there is nothing
Sweden storing all types of seeds and animal genes
Could we be one mistake away from world war 3 Putin says so which only country in history has dropped nuke on people or civilians yet are fast to point a finger at this country or that country is bad
Your all brain washed trained like little puppets by the elite what happens if war breaks out you think food will be no issues
i would hate to imagine it
but that is for another thread
Again Guess what???? the best pesticide in the world is round up or most sold get over it
Ask your self why are people still buyin it if its so bad ?? there is alternatives
I know cause like most they have no time to second guess there to busy with there zombie lifes and want to get rid or kill a weed now and guess what Round does it NoW no one has time in there busy lifes that the governement gladly imposed on you

So again Did you know over 7 trillion gallons of water fell over Louisiana and Mississippi over 8 days what other world events might happen
How many people including kids today go to bed with a empty stomach 1 in 9 go to bed hungry in the world 13 percent with with land being lost its a matter of time when 5 out of 10 or 50 percent its that its not coming it is coming ..
One one hand people scream about showing scientific data or peered reviews which Is proving GMO's appear to be safe which is it folks now you rather listen to the non scientific data and believe that shit or follow some religious movement
Its all the same shit
Here is a good one Alcohol kills yes moderate drinking can cause you a liver disease and even hepatitis
what about our Ganja ???? conclusive evidence is not out that smoking it is healthy in the long run he can be just as fatal as smoking Cigarettes its true folks

At the end of the day folks Monsanto will be monsanto obviously people rally to do what ever to hurt there image actually if you think about you made them stronger they own GH now Gavita next year promix or sunshine mix companies
your out of your league trying to hurt them
 
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Actually GMO crops use less pesticides then traditional farming its more efficient then traditional farming lets break this really done shall we
The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned. And please do not blame this on GMO's
USA alone is losing 10 acres per minute you think growing organic is a better choice for one for organic be or even compete with agricultural practices today you need double the land
To compete , let alone climate change when was the last time you looked at disasters in the world let alone usa recent italy Earth quake ? what about the fires raging in USA any crops being burnt to the ground
people got to stop living there shallow lives in a 600 sq foot 1 bedroom apt
TBH with whats going on in the world today chine storing millions of tons of rice in a area where there is nothing
Sweden storing all types of seeds and animal genes
Could we be one mistake away from world war 3 Putin says so which only country in history has dropped nuke on people or civilians yet are fast to point a finger at this country or that country is bad
Your all brain washed trained like little puppets by the elite what happens if war breaks out you think food will be no issues
i would hate to imagine it
but that is for another thread
Again Guess what???? the best pesticide in the world is round up or most sold get over it
Ask your self why are people still buyin it if its so bad ?? there is alternatives
I know cause like most they have no time to second guess there to busy with there zombie lifes and want to get rid or kill a weed now and guess what Round does it NoW no one has time in there busy lifes that the governement gladly imposed on you

So again Did you know over 7 trillion gallons of water fell over Louisiana and Mississippi over 8 days what other world events might happen
How many people including kids today go to bed with a empty stomach 1 in 9 go to bed hungry in the world 13 percent with with land being lost its a matter of time when 5 out of 10 or 50 percent its that its not coming it is coming ..
One one hand people scream about showing scientific data or peered reviews which Is proving GMO's appear to be safe which is it folks now you rather listen to the non scientific data and believe that shit or follow some religious movement
Its all the same shit
Here is a good one Alcohol kills yes moderate drinking can cause you a liver disease and even hepatitis
what about our Ganja ???? conclusive evidence is not out that smoking it is healthy in the long run he can be just as fatal as smoking Cigarettes its true folks

At the end of the day folks Monsanto will be monsanto obviously people rally to do what ever to hurt there image actually if you think about you made them stronger they own GH now Gavita next year promix or sunshine mix companies
your out of your league trying to hurt them

They hurt themselves. I'm not the one with a career in using or producing unsustainable farming methods. It's plainly irresponsible no matter what scenario you can conjure up. Maybe re-think your position and find that you may be on the wrong team.
Monsanto CEO Fraley, likes to lay claim that Biotech will feed the world...BULLSHIT!

Fraley says Monsanto’s crops are key to feeding the world, but these engineered traits have largely been introduced in just three commodities, most of which wind up in the bellies of livestock or the tanks of cars. In 2013, 64 percent of Monsanto’s seed sales came from corn, 16 percent from soy and 7 percent from cotton. Only 13 percent of sales came from other vegetables and seeds — the kind of food we eat.

I have no idea where you pool your facts from on soil erosion and CO2 emissions, from the sounds of it, Monsanto commercial pages on the wonders of conventional petro-chemical farming.
You should do better research.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y4137e/y4137e02b.htm
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v330/n6146/abs/330370a0.html

Also, ask yourself this question, if biotech has such a solid future, why even bother buying out small companies in areas that have little to do with biotech? If you weren't paying attention, Monsanto stocks are dipping and they weren't even capable of buying Syngenta over Chemchina's bid...when Syngenta was not interested in accepting Monsanto stock as partial payment. The future is organic farming and for good reason. The people want it..the earth wants it. Then where will all your cheerleading for biotech be?
 
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Lotsa people are saying organic farmers are pro poverty. I am just saying what I am hearing here folks. The facts speak for themselves folks, organic farmers hate children and are keeping people starving, just what the media is saying...lots of people say that. Ask yourself, what do you have to lose, give the gmo a try, maybe it will be uugely advantageous to your health. They are not wildly successful for nothing afterall, just look at the evidence folks....clearly all the best science shows that we need to use the gmos to end hunger....what's that, no no no, agricultural practices pushed by the industry that benefits from them are the best information, they hire the best people to look out for you. Remember the great job the tobacco guys did looking out for your health, they had the best science that was really looking to keep their customers healthy. The added
Additives were to give you more bang for your buck, believe me. Thinking otherwise = sad.
 
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They hurt themselves. I'm not the one with a career in using or producing unsustainable farming methods. It's plainly irresponsible no matter what scenario you can conjure up. Maybe re-think your position and find that you may be on the wrong team.
Monsanto CEO Fraley, likes to lay claim that Biotech will feed the world...BULLSHIT!

Fraley says Monsanto’s crops are key to feeding the world, but these engineered traits have largely been introduced in just three commodities, most of which wind up in the bellies of livestock or the tanks of cars. In 2013, 64 percent of Monsanto’s seed sales came from corn, 16 percent from soy and 7 percent from cotton. Only 13 percent of sales came from other vegetables and seeds — the kind of food we eat.

I have no idea where you pool your facts from on soil erosion and CO2 emissions, from the sounds of it, Monsanto commercial pages on the wonders of conventional petro-chemical farming.
You should do better research.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y4137e/y4137e02b.htm
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v330/n6146/abs/330370a0.html

Also, ask yourself this question, if biotech has such a solid future, why even bother buying out small companies in areas that have little to do with biotech? If you weren't paying attention, Monsanto stocks are dipping and they weren't even capable of buying Syngenta over Chemchina's bid...when Syngenta was not interested in accepting Monsanto stock as partial payment. The future is organic farming and for good reason. The people want it..the earth wants it. Then where will all your cheerleading for biotech be?
Cracked.com is a valid scientific publication. They are cited in research publications all the time.
 
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They have the best journalismers. Lots of people are saying they are much more credible than the MSM.
 
Purpletrain

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For one i would bet 99 percent of the people on here do not actually farm there fore would be no reason to worry about GMO's right i mean hey i have a organic garden for my fruits in veggies nothing wrong with that you know the typical onions, potatoes, tomatoes , cuccumbers, why aren't you growing any everyone should ..

But hey nothing to farming and seed companies having patients or trademarks ??? all do and contrary to popular belief farmers do not have the time or resources when it comes to big farming to make there own seeds its just not how it works anymore i purchase seeds if they do not germinate i am not out of money they are

But hey Food production uses a significant quantity of arable land and natural resources, and GMOs hold promise to alleviate this burden on the Earth. The efficiency of land use is a significant issue: by 2050, the global population is expected to rise above 9 billion, and the existing amount of arable land is expected to decrease significantly due to anthropogenic climate change and urbanization (FAO). If everyone in the world used as much land per person as the average United States citizen, we “would need four Earths” to sustain ourselves . The projected population expansion and rise of food consumption per person in China and India makes efficient land use essential to food security in the next 100 years
. Consequently, conserving land to produce more food is a necessity for any long term plan. Biotechnology firms claim that transgenic crops promise more food with less land. GMO crops have been found to increase yields, with a 10 percent change to a genetically modified herbicide tolerant crop yielding a roughly 1.7 percent increase in productivity (USDA). Biotechnology companies state that such varieties of crops will improve the livelihood of farmers around the world.
And you need farmers now then you ever needed them before with the baby boomers retiring there are not many people jumping into farming as one wold think its RISKY BUSINESS at best and why so many farms fail
Even kids from farmers or moving away from farming and into city life

Use of transgenic plants increases yields and decreases the need for pesticide use, thereby preventing significant ecological damage. GM pesticide-producing crops are engineered to produce Bt toxins, a crystal protein naturally synthesized by the bacterium bacillus thuringiensis. The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has found that these toxins do not activate in the human gut, and pose no risk to human health (EPA). The endotoxins are insecticidal and exhibit low environmental persistence (meaning they degrade quickly), making them ideal for expression in crops (Sharma, 2010). Although Bt is lethal to many insects, multiple scientific studies have found them to be harmless to wild mammals, birds, pets, and humans; Bt endotoxins may as well be considered “biopesticides” (Sharma, 2010). Herbicide-resistant crops are engineered to be resistant to glyphosate, an herbicide with relatively low toxicity levels, which allows for the spraying of glyphosate on crops to kill weeds. An example of such a plant is the Roundup Ready soybean produced by Monsanto, and the EPA has labeled glyphosate with a “low toxicity” rating (EPA).

The European corn borer, a widespread crop pest, claims 7 percent of the world's corn supply each year. Use of Bt corn has saved US farmers in Iowa and Nebraska alone up to 1.7 billion dollars in fighting this pest over the past 14 years, when compared to non-Bt variants (Hutchinson). Spanish farmers who have implemented Bt maize have found a 10 percent increase in yields, with up to 20 percent increases in borer-infested areas (Europa). Along with increasing yields, Bt crops also decrease pesticide usage. Some estimates indicate that if “50% of maize, oil seed rape, sugar beet, and cotton grown in the EU were GM varieties, pesticide in the EU/year would decrease by 14.5 million kg of formulated product”, and “there would be a reduction of 7.5 million hectares sprayed, which would save 20.5 million liters of diesel and result in a reduction of approximately 73,000 tons of carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere” (Phipps). A reduction of 13 million kg of pesticide in the United States has been recorded in soybean and corn fields in between 1997 and 2009, after the introduction of genetically modified crops (Phipps). Pesticide usage is reduced by a projected 2.5 million pounds a year in the US alone due to introduction of Bt crops (USDA). It is projected that the introduction of Bt resistant sugar beet in Europe would decrease pesticide usage in kilograms per year by 2,208 kg and increase yield by 5,050 kg per year (Gianessi). Europe, a place where transgenic plants are marginally utilized, uses roughly 3 kg of pesticide per hectare, compared to the United States' 2.5 (Goodplanet).

Overall, we believe that biotechnology has great potential to bring about many benefits to provide for food security, especially in the third world. These benefits include, but are not limited to, the reduction of crop loss to environmental stress, the prevention of vitamin deficiency through more nutritious crops, the prevention of food spoilage before it is brought to market, the alleviation of soil degradation in the Third World, the potential use in agroforestry systems to create more efficient and non-competitive nitrogen fixers, the potential to synthesize more potent biopesticides for organic farming, the potential to create plants built to bioremediate contaminated soils, and the potential to create plants that thrive in rooftop or vertical farms. However, although promising, agricultural technology has not yet delivered on the aforementioned fronts.
 
We Solidarity

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Fuck GMO's. It's going to be too hot to grow outside in 10 years anyways, might as well figure out how to grow in buildings. Whoever figures that one out is gonna be rich...

Every grocery store has its own grow for the essentials; specialized foods are grown in climate-specific shade/hoop houses or buildings.

or is that too far fetched
 
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For one i would bet 99 percent of the people on here do not actually farm there fore would be no reason to worry about GMO's right i mean hey i have a organic garden for my fruits in veggies nothing wrong with that you know the typical onions, potatoes, tomatoes , cuccumbers, why aren't you growing any everyone should ..

But hey nothing to farming and seed companies having patients or trademarks ??? all do and contrary to popular belief farmers do not have the time or resources when it comes to big farming to make there own seeds its just not how it works anymore i purchase seeds if they do not germinate i am not out of money they are

But hey Food production uses a significant quantity of arable land and natural resources, and GMOs hold promise to alleviate this burden on the Earth. The efficiency of land use is a significant issue: by 2050, the global population is expected to rise above 9 billion, and the existing amount of arable land is expected to decrease significantly due to anthropogenic climate change and urbanization (FAO). If everyone in the world used as much land per person as the average United States citizen, we “would need four Earths” to sustain ourselves . The projected population expansion and rise of food consumption per person in China and India makes efficient land use essential to food security in the next 100 years
. Consequently, conserving land to produce more food is a necessity for any long term plan. Biotechnology firms claim that transgenic crops promise more food with less land. GMO crops have been found to increase yields, with a 10 percent change to a genetically modified herbicide tolerant crop yielding a roughly 1.7 percent increase in productivity (USDA). Biotechnology companies state that such varieties of crops will improve the livelihood of farmers around the world.
And you need farmers now then you ever needed them before with the baby boomers retiring there are not many people jumping into farming as one wold think its RISKY BUSINESS at best and why so many farms fail
Even kids from farmers or moving away from farming and into city life

Use of transgenic plants increases yields and decreases the need for pesticide use, thereby preventing significant ecological damage. GM pesticide-producing crops are engineered to produce Bt toxins, a crystal protein naturally synthesized by the bacterium bacillus thuringiensis. The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has found that these toxins do not activate in the human gut, and pose no risk to human health (EPA). The endotoxins are insecticidal and exhibit low environmental persistence (meaning they degrade quickly), making them ideal for expression in crops (Sharma, 2010). Although Bt is lethal to many insects, multiple scientific studies have found them to be harmless to wild mammals, birds, pets, and humans; Bt endotoxins may as well be considered “biopesticides” (Sharma, 2010). Herbicide-resistant crops are engineered to be resistant to glyphosate, an herbicide with relatively low toxicity levels, which allows for the spraying of glyphosate on crops to kill weeds. An example of such a plant is the Roundup Ready soybean produced by Monsanto, and the EPA has labeled glyphosate with a “low toxicity” rating (EPA).

The European corn borer, a widespread crop pest, claims 7 percent of the world's corn supply each year. Use of Bt corn has saved US farmers in Iowa and Nebraska alone up to 1.7 billion dollars in fighting this pest over the past 14 years, when compared to non-Bt variants (Hutchinson). Spanish farmers who have implemented Bt maize have found a 10 percent increase in yields, with up to 20 percent increases in borer-infested areas (Europa). Along with increasing yields, Bt crops also decrease pesticide usage. Some estimates indicate that if “50% of maize, oil seed rape, sugar beet, and cotton grown in the EU were GM varieties, pesticide in the EU/year would decrease by 14.5 million kg of formulated product”, and “there would be a reduction of 7.5 million hectares sprayed, which would save 20.5 million liters of diesel and result in a reduction of approximately 73,000 tons of carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere” (Phipps). A reduction of 13 million kg of pesticide in the United States has been recorded in soybean and corn fields in between 1997 and 2009, after the introduction of genetically modified crops (Phipps). Pesticide usage is reduced by a projected 2.5 million pounds a year in the US alone due to introduction of Bt crops (USDA). It is projected that the introduction of Bt resistant sugar beet in Europe would decrease pesticide usage in kilograms per year by 2,208 kg and increase yield by 5,050 kg per year (Gianessi). Europe, a place where transgenic plants are marginally utilized, uses roughly 3 kg of pesticide per hectare, compared to the United States' 2.5 (Goodplanet).

Overall, we believe that biotechnology has great potential to bring about many benefits to provide for food security, especially in the third world. These benefits include, but are not limited to, the reduction of crop loss to environmental stress, the prevention of vitamin deficiency through more nutritious crops, the prevention of food spoilage before it is brought to market, the alleviation of soil degradation in the Third World, the potential use in agroforestry systems to create more efficient and non-competitive nitrogen fixers, the potential to synthesize more potent biopesticides for organic farming, the potential to create plants built to bioremediate contaminated soils, and the potential to create plants that thrive in rooftop or vertical farms. However, although promising, agricultural technology has not yet delivered on the aforementioned fronts.


Placing "But hey" in front of a cut/paste from Monsanto/Syngenta pages absolutely destroys your credibility around here.
Venture off the grid of self-promoting false claim advertisements.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-corn-pests-idUSKBN0FX1YG20140728

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/...genetically-modified-seeds-fail/#.V8XpySMrLDk

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carole-bartolotto/a-farmers-take-on-gmos_b_4621669.html
 
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That's just it when you're as big as Monsanto w the resources they have worldwide one way or another you can MAKE alleged "independent studies" look however you want them to look. Show me one single study by someone that has NOTHING to gain and I will believe that over a 1000 studies that support someone/ something that has literally trillions of dollars to gain by those studies going their way. Humans are so very corruptable when there's so much money involved. But you just keep drinking that kool aid purpletrain -they wouldn't lie to you.... BAAAAAHHH (sheep noise)
Sheepfeed

Sheep are dicks.
 
LocalGrowGuy

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Placing "But hey" in front of a cut/paste from Monsanto/Syngenta pages absolutely destroys your credibility around here.
Venture off the grid of self-promoting false claim advertisements.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-corn-pests-idUSKBN0FX1YG20140728

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/...genetically-modified-seeds-fail/#.V8XpySMrLDk

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carole-bartolotto/a-farmers-take-on-gmos_b_4621669.html
copy/pasting is so much easier!
 
xavier7995

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That's just it when you're as big as Monsanto w the resources they have worldwide one way or another you can MAKE alleged "independent studies" look however you want them to look. Show me one single study by someone that has NOTHING to gain and I will believe that over a 1000 studies that support someone/ something that has literally trillions of dollars to gain by those studies going their way. Humans are so very corruptable when there's so much money involved. But you just keep drinking that kool aid purpletrain -they wouldn't lie to you.... BAAAAAHHH (sheep noise)

see what you MSM types don't understand about real American is that we know what's good. This company has revolutionaried the industry, what do like starvation. Are you trying to turn this great land into a 3rd world county!
 
Purpletrain

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Next thing i would like to ask is are you a gambler?? in real life scenario your the farmer money is tight first year you broke even ,
You need to make a profit this year banks were forgiving insurance helped but insurances cost money your on 2nd year costs are up before you even start
Who knows what mother nature,has in store for your crops this year .
Your at her mercy no other way to put it and god forbid a bad year might as well hand the bank your farm keys right ..
Farmers almanac says its going to be a hot dry year OH Grass Hoppa lol .
You look at your family, your newborn maybe?? or couple year old ?? maybe wife is ill Cancer ? or may be grampa or gramma is there dieing what ever real case scenerio ..
What are you going to do ??? go organic and pray the grass hoppers do not destroy your crops ,
Remember look at your family there relying on to support them feed them and clothe them
you are a serious advocate against GMO but looking at your family you know what you have to do to guarantee a harvest and you need a good one this year cause everyone hates them phone calls from creditors And also you absolutely cannot afford cattle feed at the price you paid last year when you ran out in DEC and god forbid you get animial control there including fines for under feed cattle that is animal abuse


What do you do ???
I know you plant GMO and sleep easier at night knowing your going to yield more then any other conventional means which is money in the bank
As well as healthy live stock come calving season in march when grazing land is sparse and you have ample amounts of silage and feed

Remember its a business like any other and you have to pay for your batmobile some how lol
Bat tractor
 
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