Gavita vs. E-Papillon Much Anticipated Video

GR33NL3AF · Jul 30, 2014

Here it is farmers...

urban1026835 · Jul 30, 2014

surprised at how much more efficient the gavita is.

fishwhistle · Jul 30, 2014

Bout time,lol.

Herb Forester · Jul 30, 2014

Can you tell us more about the Genesis unit mentioned in the beginning?

fishwhistle · Jul 30, 2014

Thats a pretty huge difference for sure,that reflector has always seemed less efficient looking to me although i had nothing to base that on,good test!

GR33NL3AF · Jul 30, 2014

Herb Forester said:
Can you tell us more about the Genesis unit mentioned in the beginning?

She's on her way! We've been working with her for a little while now.. Keep you guy's posted!

GrowBuddyLLC · Aug 19, 2014

Great video, thanks for the post

GreenintheThumb · Aug 24, 2014

Made the same post in the other thread but here it is:

This video is a joke. They aren't actually measuring the amount of crossover light the e-pap gives. They only measured the amount of light on the ground. The e-pap is pushing a lot of that light all on the sides of that tent where they didn't measure it. The gavita pushes all the light directly down. If you only have one lamp or are in a tent a Gavita is a better hood for your needs. When you get into big commercial spaces you maximize the sideways throw with long rows of lamps. Something they didn't actually measure at all. They just assumed that the crossover light is on the outer part of their tents and hitting the floor. The real success with the e-pap is that a lot of the light they didn't even measure at all (the stuff hitting the sides of the tent) will end up hitting the canopy of the plants one or two fixtures down your row.

Put four e-paps in a 10x10 tent and you'll see a much different number. I've seen all sorts of measures in e-paps rooms and 800 is pretty low.

Herb Forester · Aug 25, 2014

I don't see the point of purposely lighting walls with horizontal reflectors. Wouldn't it make more sense to even out distribution by proper crossover spacing, putting more light directly into the canopy? My rooms have lots of diffuse light reflected off the walls just from the number of fixtures.

GreenintheThumb · Aug 25, 2014

It isn't supposed to be lighting walls. Commercial facilities are large open rooms with tons of canopy. That's the fallacy of the video. When you have multiple hundred lamp rooms that brights spot on the side of the tent isn't there and it's hitting the canopy of the plants under the next fixture. If you have a tent, get a gavita.

wobbly goblin · Aug 25, 2014

i run e-paps and gavita's
won't buy any more e-paps
and i certainly don't use a tent

fwiw

fishwhistle · Aug 25, 2014

GreenintheThumb said:
It isn't supposed to be lighting walls. Commercial facilities are large open rooms with tons of canopy. That's the fallacy of the video. When you have multiple hundred lamp rooms that brights spot on the side of the tent isn't there and it's hitting the canopy of the plants under the next fixture. If you have a tent, get a gavita.

Not many of us are running multiple hundred lamp rooms thumb.To achieve the same level of light in the same room gavita recommended 6 1ks while epap required 9 for the same lighting plan which kind of goes along with the results of the test.

GreenintheThumb · Aug 25, 2014

Yeah you said that already. And some people out here were told by Gavita to put them on three foot centers. While the e-papas said do six foot centers. So "to acheieve the same level of light in the same room" gavita required twice as many fixtures. I don't care what some tech on the website told you. Most are putting all these lamps on 5-6 foot centers.

Fresh Starts · Sep 18, 2014

I'm not using a tent and I'm satisfied with my epaps :nailbiting:
The hoods operate differently with an approach to footprints. Either one is going to dominate your X-wing or blockbuster hoods.

We Solidarity · Sep 18, 2014

Ya I like my e paps too...

Average of 1.6 between 32 harvests, half with no co2.

GR33NL3AF · Sep 18, 2014

We Solidarity said:
Ya I like my e paps too...

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Average of 1.6 between 32 harvests, half with no co2.

That another room in the back left!?:wideyed:

mastagrowa · Sep 19, 2014

No probs with my e-paps other than they run quite a bit hotter than 1kw bulbs under Adjusta-wings.

Desertboy · Sep 21, 2014

what g/w are people getting from these? I can consistently take 2g/w from standard MH/HPS lighting when I grow vertically I just wondered how these compare.

I only grow personally so 1 600w lamp provides me over 40oz every 11 weeks (1 week veg and 10 week flower) I'm always interested in new lighting I wonder how these compare for a home user rather than commercial grower.

Can either of these light be hung vertically or are they reflector only style LEP lamps?

GR33NL3AF · Sep 21, 2014

Desertboy said:
what g/w are people getting from these? I can consistently take 2g/w from standard MH/HPS lighting when I grow vertically I just wondered how these compare.

I only grow personally so 1 600w lamp provides me over 40oz every 11 weeks (1 week veg and 10 week flower) I'm always interested in new lighting I wonder how these compare for a home user rather than commercial grower.

Can either of these light be hung vertically or are they reflector only style LEP lamps?

Best I've heard of was 1.4 grams per watt... In your situation, if you truly are getting 2 per watt I wouldn't change a thing. You're just asking for trouble.

None of the Double Ended tech can be hung vertically, only the single ended 600w Philips bulb with the remote ballast.

smokie · Sep 22, 2014

Whats the minimum distance from plant on the Gavitas ?

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