Hard time letting seedlings dry out.

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My seedlings seem like they are over watered. I picked up the cup when it's wet and feel it's weight. I pick it up when I think it's dry and it weighs nothing. The soil looks and seems dried out. So I water them. They seem to be stopped in the growing depth. The stems are red on some. I think to much light to young. How do you guage dryness? Maybe still to much light? My 450 watt light is on 2.
 
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Hey philly....I just also noticed that those are waxed paper cups you're using.....I've never had luck with those cups....not sure why.....you seem to be doing alright with them....
 
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How old are they?
Have you holes at bottom of your cups?
If your medium is soil, peat, u dont need to water them so often. Especially with flush, cause a lot of nutes will get out. Some of your leaves are near yellow.

Light doesnt seem strong at all. That one seedling is stretching a lot, thats a sigh of weak ppfd.

Measure EC, PH of flush, that should tell u all for now.

Keep in mind, young plants also are building roots and if u pick such big cups, it ll show slower grow of leaves at the beginning. If u d use plugs or 2/3 smaller cups or even smaller, plant will grow faster...
 
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they look like they need food
No way, every seed that’s popped has more than enough nutrients in it to keep every seedling happy until it’s fully in veg. So at end of week two, or three, then apply nutrients.
Soil look hot. And maybe a bit too wet, not sure on that tho.
 
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Look, gone yellow to white meaning the foods run out


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Well, I’m not gonna argue homie. You are wrong.

There are a few things that can cause it. But it’s not a nutrient issue caused from a lack of feeding. It’s the light or hot soil. if you are feeding seedlings, well that is just a waste man.
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Caps right!
Your light needs to be at least 30 inches above the seedlings. Putting them off centre in a corner will also help. They are way light stressed. Also you don't need to feed young seedlings like these. Not until the beginning of week 4 or have a nice second set of leaves.

Watering?
Just give them enough to keep them alive. Do not soak them.
Water around the outside of the cup not in close to the plant. Let them put out roots to find it.
 
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Caps right!
Your light needs to be at least 30 inches above the seedlings. Putting them off centre in a corner will also help. They are way light stressed. Also you don't need to feed young seedlings like these. Not until the beginning of week 4 or have a nice second set of leaves.

Watering?
Just give them enough to keep them alive. Do not soak them.
Water around the outside of the cup not in close to the plant. Let them put out roots to find it.
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Hey Cap. I'm beginning to enjoy retirement.
Health wise. Got the big C on the run for now so life is good.
Man, super glad that you are on the mend.
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wow, i must be wrong then, the cotyledons leaves haven't gone white with no food left :/

What fool i am :/ i really need to do some reading, it's important.

Thxs for helping me understand how it works @Captspaulding


Ur the man
Np good sir. Onward and upward!
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wow, i must be wrong then, the cotyledons leaves haven't gone white with no food left :/

What fool i am :/ i really need to do some reading, it's important.

Thxs for helping me understand how it works @Captspaulding


Ur the man
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Hey Joe.
Your going to find 10 different answers for every question you pose. Just keep what we are saying as a base line.
Indoors, I hydro and tend to feed a little early myself so if the plant comes looking, something is available. But I can't really tell you to feed at the end of week 2 just in case.

Something like that could start WW3 in here. Your problem is not a light feed a week early. In the long run, that really makes no difference.

Your problem is that your light is way more powerful than you think it is and your stressing your plants. Keep the light at 30 inches and consider Cap's advice on the matter solid.
 
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I'm no botanist or arborist or such, but seedlings in soil don't need fed. The soil has enough in it to take it into veg, and when you up pot from the solos into more fresh soil like ocean forest, that soil will carry it another 4 weeks ish without nutes.

Also seedlings that small prefer a simple fluorescent t5 bulb right on em
 
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You can't assume this tho, it might be old soil that needs amending, it might be crap weak soil cheap and only has a week worth of food, or it might be a soil made by the master himself @Captspaulding


Joes last thought: Needs ph check for lockout before anything else, then might need food, the pots are clearly watered correct as the op said he did the weight test so he knows how to water, it's got nothing to do with the lights as tiny small seedlings would burn it too much and look way way way more unhealthy, if all fails then repot them in fresh new soil and use different pots as someone above said they never had any luck with wax coated solo cups, and the cotyledons leafs are dead so the seedling can't feed it's self anymore 100% facts.

good luck @phillyguy hope I've helped


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Well alrighty then! I’m not sure how to take that. But thanks? I literally take dirt out of a bag, and then plant a seed in it. Nothing being built by me, I’m a kiss and Occam’s razor guy, but imagine homie, that the smallest, and oldest set of leaves would be the most exposed to high output and heat for the longest time? They would shrivel and perish before the bigger leaves eh?
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wow, i must be wrong then, the cotyledons leaves haven't gone white with no food left :/

What fool i am :/ i really need to do some reading, it's important.

Thxs for helping me understand how it works @Captspaulding


Ur the man
Bro, books are dope.
You can turn pages,
And construct cool words out of all those letters, as long as you’re not wearing an ass for a hat, this is how learning happens.
It’s fn important. I’m over here being nice. If you are just kinda being a passive aggresive dick. Sitting on your own thumb just loving yourself, easy tiger no need for that. I really am a nice guy that’s had a shitty week, and if those seedlings were left to you, well they would be dead as doornails in no time,
If you would like some more advice (free bc I love you man) on how to master interacting with these letter and word things, reading rainbow changes young impressionable minds with with colorful moving pictures that narrate and “explain” things we may or may not encounter in life!
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she says howdy, and clean your room before she gets home.

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