Hello, help with ph’ing with biobizz!

[KG1]

Ah I see, instead of showing evidence of what youre saying you insult me. In my third world country we have free healthcare and education and we dont have one of the highest incarcerations rates in the world, I can go for low blows too.

I'd feel insulted yes, the advice is to start with acceptable levels and for years we've given acceptable levels for ppms if most things in water.

How your information is not preceded with 'Advicw for people who have trash water' or 'Hiw to solve the fact my water company pipes me unfit water' is beyond me.

At a certain alkalinity all bets are off and your water simply sucks and you should explain this before suggesting I and others need any kind of oh control over a well buffered product.

My only concern, and the concern talked about on sites for years is the total ppm as that will tell you good from bad easily. 300-400ppm water needs some further exploration, under that there's not a lot that can really affect much. Some just make a consideration based on hard or soft under those rough approximations based on individual countries.

If you live in desalinated areas or just bad rock and previous ground spoilage that's a seperate conversation, literally I don't know anywhere in my country that hasn't got pretty good water and if the water wasn't I'd be buying in or filtering which again would negate me having to tell everyone to pH or adjust or de-tox or whatever the issue was.

Those are the rules to growing, get food water with lowish ppm.

Essentially trying to defeat a calcium buffer isn't easy, you may pH but then this is a buffer it will always seek to rise back up to original pH. Only by ionising the buffer away fully can one pH ever be set.

Even the chemistry is slightly off and assume in hydro it's always re corrected or not in the system to matter long enough like Coco.

But that's a higher form of discussion one I'm sure we will get to one day....

 

[Eledin]

Oh so now youre changing your "its not necessary" to "only if you have trash tap water" which many people have, including in the US. My tap water is good enough to grow vegetables and weed but is even better if I treat it. Im not gonna read your long ass post, show proof or shut up. Many growers here would disagree with you and you can see their plants, its only fair that we can see yours and how what you say translates to reality.

 

[Eledin]

As for the OP, you choose who you wanna believe, a rando that says walmart soil is good for weed or dozens of studies available if you search online. You gotta be a real cheap ass to not get even proper soil for weed, its like 5 dollars more or so.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Show me your tits or shut up. But really, you need to pay attention to the ratio of magnesium to calcium and potassium, as well as the iron factor. You shouldn't exceed or exceed the total level of salts, as well as these three elements. However, the confusion lies in magnesium. But sulfur is about accessibility, which means speed and efficiency. This is how I imagine the elements' nutrition. There aren't many issues with the other elements. I don't think it's worth making it more complicated than it actually is.

 

[Eledin]

Chlorine is the only antagonist of sulfur. Just add sulfur. But chlorine can also be useful. It will be an additional nitrogen compound. In fact, you will have to add more nitrogen and potassium to the classic fertilizers, which is strange that I am saying this, but it already applies to the classic fertilizers, as the magnesium content is too high.I recommend reverse osmosis because it removes 98% of everything in the water, and you can use it to fertilize your garden. This may require some additional costs, but it can help reduce environmental pollution and excessive use of fertilizers in your home. Additionally, it can reduce the need for drainage, which can help minimize environmental pollution.

I personally treat it with hydrogen peroxide. If you smell the strong scent of ammonia after adding hydrogen peroxide you will realize how much chlorides are actually there. Hydrogen peroxide breaks down chlorides into ammonia which the plant converts into nitrogen aswell. Then hydrogen peroxide breaks down into water an oxigen. To minimize the use of hydrogen peroxide I let the chlorine evaporate for 1 day and then add the hydrogen peroxide to get the remaining chlorides like chloramine and let it rest for a few hours at least so everything has broken down.

 

[KG1]

Oh so now youre changing your "its not necessary" to "only if you have trash tap water" which many people have, including in the US. My tap water is good enough to grow vegetables and weed but is even better if I treat it. Im not gonna read your long ass post, show proof or shut up. Many growers here would disagree with you and you can see their plants, its only fair that we can see yours and how what you say translates to reality.

Where didn't I say not to start with good water and wasn't the guys water pretty low ppm? Isn't this the main advice before even becoming a grower...

If the soil grows veg it will grow weed the species thrive in the same conditions and that's the point about supermarket soil, it's the main brand because it works, if it didn't it simply wouldn't sell after gardeners witnessed near total destruction and loss.

You got this down as some magical plant that needs special treatment, just how many rabbit holes you been down now?

But that's it, your advice and then all the growers who don't use your advice and whom you never speak of in your advice.

Just bad all round isn't it

 

[ForestSpirit]

I personally treat it with hydrogen peroxide. If you smell the strong scent of ammonia after adding hydrogen peroxide you will realize how much chlorides are actually there. Hydrogen peroxide breaks down chlorides into ammonia which the plant converts into nitrogen aswell. Then hydrogen peroxide breaks down into water an oxigen. To minimize the use of hydrogen peroxide I let the chlorine evaporate for 1 day and then add the hydrogen peroxide to get the remaining chlorides like chloramine and let it rest for a few hours at least so everything has broken down.

If we're talking about growing at home, I think we should do everything we can to avoid getting poisoned. There's a complex system of self-regulation outside.

 

[Greenadian]

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[Eledin]

Where didn't I say not to start with good water and wasn't the guys water pretty low ppm? Isn't this the main advice before even becoming a grower...

If the soil grows veg it will grow weed the species thrive in the same conditions and that's the point about supermarket soil, it's the main brand because it works, if it didn't it simply wouldn't sell after gardeners witnessed near total destruction and loss.

You got this down as some magical plant that needs special treatment, just how many rabbit holes you been down now?

But that's it, your advice and then all the growers who don't use your advice and whom you never speak of in your advice.

Just bad all round isn't it

You said meassuring parameters is bro science, keep retracting statements to look better now that youre cooked

 

[ForestSpirit]

Where didn't I say not to start with good water and wasn't the guys water pretty low ppm? Isn't this the main advice before even becoming a grower...

If the soil grows veg it will grow weed the species thrive in the same conditions and that's the point about supermarket soil, it's the main brand because it works, if it didn't it simply wouldn't sell after gardeners witnessed near total destruction and loss.

You got this down as some magical plant that needs special treatment, just how many rabbit holes you been down now?

But that's it, your advice and then all the growers who don't use your advice and whom you never speak of in your advice.

Just bad all round isn't it

Hemp is different from hemp. The medicinal variety requires high precision. But any hemp is like a sponge. The high level of evaporation allows all the dirt to penetrate the plant.

 

[Eledin]

If the soil grows veg it will grow weed the species thrive in the same conditions and that's the point about supermarket soil, it's the main brand because it works, if it didn't it simply wouldn't sell after gardeners witnessed near total destruction and loss.

You got this down as some magical plant that needs special treatment, just how many rabbit holes you been down now?

But that's it, your advice and then all the growers who don't use your advice and whom you never speak of in your advice.

Just bad all round isn't it

Every crop can yield better with special treatment, not just weed, but weed has been grown and bred in very particular ways for many years and that affects their genetics, it also happens with other crops Im sure you know about it.

 

[Eledin]

Do you know people who grow massive vegetables for the guiness world records book? Tell them what you told me. They cant even leave the house for 1 day to make sure everything is on its maxium potential at all times. Also the bigger risk of pests with big vegetables.

 

[ForestSpirit]

If the variety is unable to absorb what is in the roots, an imbalance occurs in the plant itself. When the numbers are high, the situation worsens. However, the fertility of the soil is known, which is true for most crops. At home, you can achieve better soil conditions than outdoors, which is something I believe in.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Do you know people who grow massive vegetables for the guiness world records book? Tell them what you told me. They cant even leave the house for 1 day to make sure everything is on its maxium potential at all times. Also the bigger risk of pests with big vegetables.

Seeds are just seeds, we don't need to get into the record book, do we?

 

[Eledin]

Seeds are just seeds, we don't need to get into the record book, do we?

No, Im not saying you gotta grow the best weed in the world, its just an example on how drastically you can improve yield with special treatment. Also I think most people would want to get as much as possible, not a world record but definetely good parameters or as good as you can get them to.

 

[ForestSpirit]

We can argue about it all we want. The only thing that matters is pure biomass without any toxins. This will be affected by the balance of the root zone. The conditions are the result for the cannabis, but the balance is the cause. I would also like to point out that the light regime and the intensity of the light will have an impact.

 

[Eledin]

If the variety is unable to absorb what is in the roots, an imbalance occurs in the plant itself. When the numbers are high, the situation worsens. However, the fertility of the soil is known, which is true for most crops. At home, you can achieve better soil conditions than outdoors, which is something I believe in.

Not only better soil conditions but also enviromental conditions. Humidity plays a huge role in trichome production, so does temperature. In most casues the parameters might be good enough for the plant to develop without any issue but once you start dialing in and start getting more parameters towards more optimal levels you can really tell that the plant grows faster and gives better buds. This is not true for all cases but most top shelf weed is grown indoors for that reason, you can control the enviroment.

 

[ForestSpirit]

No, Im not saying you gotta grow the best weed in the world, its just an example on how drastically you can improve yield with special treatment. Also I think most people would want to get as much as possible, not a world record but definetely good parameters or as good as you can get them to.

I think that a large berry is a genetic factor, and the yield is the ability of the variety itself. However, this is not the primary concern when it comes to the plant we smoke.

 

[Eledin]

We can argue about it all we want. The only thing that matters is pure biomass without any toxins. This will be affected by the balance of the root zone. The conditions are the result for the cannabis, but the balance is the cause. I would also like to point out that the light regime and the intensity of the light will have an impact.

Of course, overfeeding is overfeeding and toxins are toxins but if theyre thriving they will eat more and thats true even for hydro.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Not only better soil conditions but also enviromental conditions. Humidity plays a huge role in trichome production, so does temperature. In most casues the parameters might be good enough for the plant to develop without any issue but once you start dialing in and start getting more parameters towards more optimal levels you can really tell that the plant grows faster and gives better buds. This is not true for all cases but most top shelf weed is grown indoors for that reason, you can control the enviroment.

This is all true, but it is the hemp that has the highest level of evaporation. I am convinced that the conditions are not so important for the weed.