Help. Spotting. 3-4 Weeks Flower

[LostInTheTranslation]

yep all that sounds good for your next feeding or two, than we change it up but have to follow along to see how they are reacting..

@GNick55 @ComfortablyNumb

yep all that sounds good for your next feeding or two, than we change it up but have to follow along to see how they are reacting..

@Moshmen @ComfortablyNumb @GNick55 so went and checked on the pot weight and ends up I’ll need to water today. So I’m going to do one gram of epsom salt, botanicare cal mag+ (2ml/gallon) 1/4 dose of fox farm big grow (2ml/gallon) with tap water at 69F degrees until 20% runoff. Lights are off in the next five hours so unless y’all say other I’m going to water.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Your main issue is your added Bembe and Fish Sh!t and these make it a living soil. So now the soil is feeding and you are feeding. It's too much.
Eveything you give it is adding to the mess.

Flush the snot out of it and give it light balanced feeds without the Bembe or Fish shit. You don't need most of that stuff.
If you want to feed them, then use ProMix instead of soil. That's what its made for.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Your main issue is your added Bembe and Fish Sh!t and these make it a living soil. So now the soil is feeding and you are feeding. It's too much.
Eveything you give it is adding to the mess.

Flush the snot out of it and give it light balanced feeds without the Bembe or Fish shit. You don't need most of that stuff.
If you want to feed them, then use ProMix instead of soil. That's what its made for.

So should I just water with a gram of epsom salt, 2ml/gallon of cal-mag, and 1/4 dose of fox farm grow big or just epsom salt?

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Why are you adding epson salt?
Cut the cal-mag by half.
Drop the grow big.

Read these:

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Watering SOIL

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[LostInTheTranslation]

Why are you adding epson salt?
Cut the cal-mag by half.
Drop the grow big.

Read these:

Basic Watering

Marijuana Watering, how media, pot size/shape and environment affect it

Ok lots of posts on how to water plants. So I thought I would put together a thread on how different factors contribute to different results that ppl see. This will be a long read based on my personal knowledge, opinions, research and others work to consolidate information for our members. I'm...

www.thcfarmer.com

Watering SOIL

New Simplified Way to Water Marijuana Plants

The other day I had an idea and after testing, it works great. To know if you need to water, get yourself a soil meter. Poke or drill 4 holes in your pot 1/4 way up from the bottom spaced around the pot. Insert the meter probe into the hole and test for moisture. If its dry, then water SLOWLY...

www.thcfarmer.com

@Moshmen recommended adding a pinch of epsom salt on my next watering. When you say cut the CalMag in half do you mean use 1ml/gallon? The recommended full dose is 3ml-6ml per gallon in flowering stage

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

@Moshmen recommended adding a pinch of epsom salt on my next watering. When you say cut the CalMag in half do you mean use 1ml/gallon? The recommended full dose is 3ml-6ml per gallon in flowering stage

If it's 3 to 6, then use 1.5 The charts are designed to use up the product as fast as possible so you have to buy more. Those numbers are as high as you can feed without directly killing your plant. Always cut the chart by at least half. Epson salt and cal-mag do almost the same thing. Drop one or the other.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

If it's 3 to 6, then use 1.5 The charts are designed to use up the product as fast as possible so you have to buy more. Those numbers are as high as you can feed without directly killing your plant. Always cut the chart by at least half. Epson salt and cal-mag do almost the same thing. Drop one or the other.

If it's 3 to 6, then use 1.5 The charts are designed to use up the product as fast as possible so you have to buy more. Those numbers are as high as you can feed without directly killing your plant. Always cut the chart by at least half. Epson salt and cal-mag do almost the same thing. Drop one or the other.

@ComfortablyNumb @GNick55 watered 3.5 days ago with about a half gallon of water. The water used was tap water which I added a pinch of epsom salt to and had a ph of 6.5 and a ppm of 130. Did a slurry test yesterday with three samples using ro bottled water with a ph of 6.3 and ppm was 0.

first sample (root zone) - ph 5.3 ppm 850
Second sample - (2inches down from the top of the soil) - ph 5.7 ppm 180
Third sample (straight from the extra happy frog soil I have leftover in the bag) - ph 5.5 ppm 1180

I’m assuming I got a hot bag of Happy Frog since the sample out of the bag was a ph of 5.5. Thoughts?

should I amend the top layer of soil with Dolomite lime? Or should I flush again with 1/4 tiger bloom and cal mag? Checked for bugs and no sign anywhere. Here are few updated photos from today which you can see the damage to the leaves, which started out as spotty light brown, then turned a lighter yellow, and then started to see holes in the leaves where the brown spots wilted/decayed and more yellowing and wilting. Need to water today so any thoughts would helpful. Obviously I have a low ph but not sure how to battle that 3-4 weeks into flowering with little time left.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Next time you are ready to water, top dress 2 tablespoons of dolomite lime into each pot. Then water.
Hopefully, this is not a root issue.
Lets have pix of the whole plant and pot.
Put some marbles or something under the pot inside the catch pan. You need air flowing in there.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Next time you are ready to water, top dress 2 tablespoons of dolomite lime into each pot. Then water.
Hopefully, this is not a root issue.
Lets have pix of the whole plant and pot.
Put some marbles or something under the pot inside the catch pan. You need air flowing in there.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Yeah, put about 10 1/2 inch holes around the bottom of the pot. You need more drainage.
This looks like a root issue, but hopefully we can correct it before it gets toxic.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Yeah, put about 10 1/2 inch holes around the bottom of the pot. You need more drainage.
This looks like a root issue, but hopefully we can correct it before it gets toxic.

Done. After cutting the holes I could see that the roots are still white but the bottom layer of soil was prob a little too wet.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Done. After cutting the holes I could see that the roots are still white but the bottom layer of soil was prob a little too wet.

Yep. Pots hold water and really they shouldn't. Read these and you will understand why you need proper drainage along with a full inch of airflow under the pot also. There should be holes in the bottom also. Smaller holes, more of them.

Basic Watering

Marijuana Watering, how media, pot size/shape and environment affect it

Ok lots of posts on how to water plants. So I thought I would put together a thread on how different factors contribute to different results that ppl see. This will be a long read based on my personal knowledge, opinions, research and others work to consolidate information for our members. I'm...

www.thcfarmer.com

Watering SOIL

New Simplified Way to Water Marijuana Plants

The other day I had an idea and after testing, it works great. To know if you need to water, get yourself a soil meter. Poke or drill 4 holes in your pot 1/4 way up from the bottom spaced around the pot. Insert the meter probe into the hole and test for moisture. If its dry, then water SLOWLY...

www.thcfarmer.com

 

[Moshmen]

Sorry I missed this thread this weekend , CN gotta ya goin - I still feel it’s a mag issue ? May b being locked out ? Or ph? I’m definitely not a happy frog expert, it just is similar symptoms that I’ve had before I do know those leaves will only get worse ! Never heal - need whole plant pics , new growth is what ya want to be lookin at,

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Yep. Pots hold water and really they shouldn't. Read these and you will understand why you need proper drainage along with a full inch of airflow under the pot also. There should be holes in the bottom also. Smaller holes, more of them.

Basic Watering

Marijuana Watering, how media, pot size/shape and environment affect it

Ok lots of posts on how to water plants. So I thought I would put together a thread on how different factors contribute to different results that ppl see. This will be a long read based on my personal knowledge, opinions, research and others work to consolidate information for our members. I'm...

www.thcfarmer.com

Watering SOIL

New Simplified Way to Water Marijuana Plants

The other day I had an idea and after testing, it works great. To know if you need to water, get yourself a soil meter. Poke or drill 4 holes in your pot 1/4 way up from the bottom spaced around the pot. Insert the meter probe into the hole and test for moisture. If its dry, then water SLOWLY...

www.thcfarmer.com

I put holes along the bottom edge and the bottom of the pot. Should be good to go on the drainage issue.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Sorry I missed this thread this weekend , CN gotta ya goin - I still feel it’s a mag issue ? May b being locked out ? Or ph? I’m definitely not a happy frog expert, it just is similar symptoms that I’ve had before I do know those leaves will only get worse ! Never heal - need whole plant pics , new growth is what ya want to be lookin at,

Pretty sure I got a hot batch of happy frog or I royally screwed up the soil. However I’ve never fed more than 1/4 of the recommended dosage.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Do you have a soil probe?
Soil Moisture meter. NOT the 3 in 1 meters. Those are junk.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Do you have a soil probe?
Soil Moisture meter. NOT the 3 in 1 meters. Those are junk.

Only the junky 3 in 1.

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

Only the junky 3 in 1.

@ComfortablyNumb what moisture meter would you recommend?

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

@ComfortablyNumb @Moshmen @GNick55 after doing a ton of reading Ive come to the conclusion that my issues were driven by poor drainage, which lead to salt build up and low ph in the root zone. The leaf issues I’m seeing all started with the lower older leaves, which started as bronze spots that turned into brown spots along with some red/purple stems. This leads me to assume that low ph levels in the root zone caused by salt build up via poor drainage showed up initially in early flowering as a phosphorus deficiency and now some signs of mag deficiency. Will be checking the soil ph before watering today to determine if I still have a low ph after the last watering. Next time im going organic all the way lol. Cheers!

 

[LostInTheTranslation]

@ComfortablyNumb @Moshmen forgot to mention that I retested the soil, after calibrating my ph pen and found it was still calibrated, directly from the bag of happy frog and got a ph of 5.3 and a PPM of 1150. Glad I added two tablespoons of dolomite lime to the top soil the last watering. Not sure why this bag of happy frog is so darn hot in comparison to typically being at a Ph of 6.5-7 typically out of the bag. The water I used for the slurry test was Aquafina bottled water (reverse osmosis per the bottle) that had a ph of 6.3 and 0 PPM. Even though I’m 3.5 weeks into flower I’m considering transplanting so this girl doesn’t burn and I don’t have to keep chasing ph issues. Thoughts?