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Nah, I get that. Space is a premium, especially when trying to run perpetually. The idea of cardboard + wet flowers just begs mold issues to me. Hell, even drying in a bathroom would be better, a bit of a bitch having to move plants around every time you need to bathe, but at least it's not a stagnant air box. Given I don't know anything more about your living situation, my best advice is consider any other options you have. Personally, I don't dry in my tent either. I dry in my garage. Also not ideal temps, and not perfectly dark, but the bud turns out just fine regardless.
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Everytime I looked around for drying boxes or ideas cardboard kept coming up. I did see several that said cut squares about the size of credit cards for air flow. And again I have several computer fans I could even cut into the sides of the boxes to push air. Unfortunately I live in a very warm climate and don't have a garage. What about a closet? Just grasping at straws here.
 
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I'm really open to suggestions. I have fans shoot I have a small computer like fan I could cut into the box just for some airflow of needed. I just don't really have anything else to use. I turn my tents over to have continous grows so can't really cut and leave in my tent.
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Hay man, I'm in same boat for years my weed has always smelt good an then dry not as good, it turns out like nice comers , I also cut and dry on a net in the room my tents is in, I slam another crop straight in and dry on a net or stalks , but the are in the room the tents is in and it's just a little bit to hot and drying a little to fast, iv known this for years just been last as my weed was good enough and just not tasting as good as some weed that just test amazing lol.

Anyway long story short I bought a new tent and a 4inch fan and filet so I can now dry my bud in a different cooler room and I can control the temp now and humidity
If you get humidity and temp right drying then I can't see why it want turn out nice rather then a little bit hay smell and not tasting amazing.

I'm cutting in 1 week I will let u know the difference when it's done,
U plant to Google the temps and humidity to properky dry bud ar and get it spot on even if I have to add a humidifie see now.
 
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Everytime I looked around for drying boxes or ideas cardboard kept coming up. I did see several that said cut squares about the size of credit cards for air flow. And again I have several computer fans I could even cut into the sides of the boxes to push air. Unfortunately I live in a very warm climate and don't have a garage. What about a closet? Just grasping at straws here.
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A closet would be just fine. A circular fan at the bottom, pointed at a wall for circulation, would do great.
 
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A closet would be just fine. A circular fan at the bottom, pointed at a wall for circulation, would do great.
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Depends what temperature in the closer Is init to hot then it's no good
 
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A closet would be just fine. A circular fan at the bottom, pointed at a wall for circulation, would do great.
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Yeah cause as I sit here and think depending on where people are at decides where the coolest spot may be to dry. Up north where it's 70 degrees inside and 30 in a garage well the garage may be a good call. Or in the south where it's 95 outside and 70 inside well hard to make it's much cooler and inside it goes. So I'm in the later and that's my situation. Other then slamming it in my fridge not sure what else to do.
 
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Anyone ever dry in a fridge? Is it possible or feasible?
 
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I know a bunch of people freezer theirs up in Canada but they usually put it in at 65%
 
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Anyone ever dry in a fridge? Is it possible or feasible?
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Fridge humidity way too high
 
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I know a bunch of people freezer theirs up in Canada but they usually put it in at 65%
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65% dry is what you mean?
 
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Yeah definitely. That's the struggle with drying. While temps are a huge factor, humidity is also important. The biggest variable you can play with in this process is airflow. Stagnant air allows mold spores to settle. So, if you can't hit the 60/60 rule, you can balance it in some way, and so long you adequate airflow you can hit your 7-10 day target for drying. That being said, a plant pulled early may never regain what it expressed in flower. The terpenes it was producing are just too volatile and evaporate at room temp. Just the nature of the beast.
 
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65% dry is what you mean?
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Yep just for long term storage though. Freezer pulls a bit then it’s still smokeable up to years later
 
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Yeah definitely. That's the struggle with drying. While temps are a huge factor, humidity is also important. The biggest variable you can play with in this process is airflow. Stagnant air allows mold spores to settle. So, if you can't hit the 60/60 rule, you can balance it in some way, and so long you adequate airflow you can hit your 7-10 day target for drying. That being said, a plant pulled early may never regain what it expressed in flower. The terpenes it was producing are just too volatile and evaporate at room temp. Just the nature of the beast.
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Sucks because all that time and care through the grow can be destroyed in the dry. Ugh. My first few grows were like this. Kinda hay smelling and then went into jars and were in there and still are several months later. I find when I take them out of the jars and put them into sandwich bags that then the smells seem to come out and the hay goes away. Still trying to figure this all out for my situation.
 
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Sucks because all that time and care through the grow can be destroyed in the dry. Ugh. My first few grows were like this. Kinda hay smelling and then went into jars and were in there and still are several months later. I find when I take them out of the jars and put them into sandwich bags that then the smells seem to come out and the hay goes away. Still trying to figure this all out for my situation.
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Ya it does lol. I joke with my old school buddy. Anybody can grow weed. Not everyone can cure it. Unfortunately a expensive mistake. Hopefully still decent smoke. Should still get ya high
 
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Sucks because all that time and care through the grow can be destroyed in the dry. Ugh. My first few grows were like this. Kinda hay smelling and then went into jars and were in there and still are several months later. I find when I take them out of the jars and put them into sandwich bags that then the smells seem to come out and the hay goes away. Still trying to figure this all out for my situation.
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Given that, with your temps, I'd say bump the humidity up if you can so long you can provide adequate air flow. 70F @ 65% RH should get your dry time ~10 days. You'll still lose some terpenes, but it won't be as bad, and you might want to evaluate your cure process. Here's what I've found makes for reliable results (I spent the first 10 years of growing in the desert, I get it):

  • Hang dry till the stems crack but don't break. 5-7 days.
  • Chuck buds off the stems, into paper bags. Burp the bags daily based on feel. If the buds feel wet, twice a day. Continue till they're crispy outside, but spongey feeling. Average 5-7 days.
  • Into jars. Burp daily for five minutes. Kick the buds around a bit. Terpenes should start expressing themselves after a week or so. At this point they're ready for use.

Where I was, average day temps were 100F+, RH averaged 30% year round. Using a paper bag while the buds were still relatively wet in the middle was absolutely vital for a good, usable product within a month's timeline.
 
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Ya it does lol. I joke with my old school buddy. Anybody can grow weed. Not everyone can cure it. Unfortunately a expensive mistake. Hopefully still decent smoke. Should still get ya high
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I just spend to much time caring for them so want it to express it's smell like when it's still alive. Not like a damn freshly cut cow field. Lol
 
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Given that, with your temps, I'd say bump the humidity up if you can so long you can provide adequate air flow. 70F @ 65% RH should get your dry time ~10 days. You'll still lose some terpenes, but it won't be as bad, and you might want to evaluate your cure process. Here's what I've found makes for reliable results (I spent the first 10 years of growing in the desert, I get it):

  • Hang dry till the stems crack but don't break. 5-7 days.
  • Chuck buds off the stems, into paper bags. Burp the bags daily based on feel. If the buds feel wet, twice a day. Continue till they're crispy outside, but spongey feeling. Average 5-7 days.
  • Into jars. Burp daily for five minutes. Kick the buds around a bit. Terpenes should start expressing themselves after a week or so. At this point they're ready for use.

Where I was, average day temps were 100F+, RH averaged 30% year round. Using a paper bag while the buds were still relatively wet in the middle was absolutely vital for a good, usable product within a month's timeline.
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I screen shot your reply to keep it to look back. And I'm somewhat close to your desert temps but much higher humidity where I'm at. I guess airflow is key and keeping an eye on it like I do when it's growing to keep things in check is ok while it's drying too.
 
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I screen shot your reply to keep it to look back. And I'm somewhat close to your desert temps but much higher humidity where I'm at. I guess airflow is key and keeping an eye on it like I do when it's growing to keep things in check it's ok while it's drying too.
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With your indoor temps, I think you have a good enough climate for a good dry. Just check the stems. When they crack, and the buds feel crispy on the outside, that's when you put them in paper bags. Too much longer and you end up with what you're describing.

The bags slow the drying process down, sometimes a lot. So it's important to move the buds around when you're burping the bags. You'll lose some trichomes and hairs, but the product will appreciate it. You'll get a feel for when they're ready for jars. They'll be kinda spongy, but dry if that makes sense. That's when you put them in jars. Days to each step are not set in stone, only rough guidelines.
 
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With your indoor temps, I think you have a good enough climate for a good dry. Just check the stems. When they crack, and the buds feel crispy on the outside, that's when you put them in paper bags. Too much longer and you end up with what you're describing.

The bags slow the drying process down, sometimes a lot. So it's important to move the buds around when you're burping the bags. You'll lose some trichomes and hairs, but the product will appreciate it. You'll get a feel for when they're ready for jars. They'll be kinda spongy, but dry if that makes sense. That's when you put them in jars. Days to each step are not set in stone, only rough guidelines.
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I read something like this awhile back when I was doing some research and literally bought some paper bags today.

Now when you're talking about putting them into the bags do you leave them in a dark spot? Cooler spot? Or since they are then in the bags just leave them anywhere within a cooler temp place?
 
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I read something like this awhile back when I was doing some research and literally bought some paper bags today.

Now when you're talking about putting them into the bags do you leave them in a dark spot? Cooler spot? Or since they are then in the bags just leave them anywhere within a cooler temp place?
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I just toss em in the same closet that my clothes live in. It's dark, ambient temp, and I won't accidentally kick an ounce of weed across a room haha. I keep my house at about the same temp you do (my ol lady and kids hate me, but over 68F and I'm sweating my balls off).

You just gotta be on point with burping them at this stage. If any mold spores have settled, the microclimate that this step creates WILL germinate mold (I've lost harvests at this point) so you must keep up with the burping and do a thorough mixing every burp.

EDIT: full disclosure, the thorough mixing may lead to sticky fingers, stinky hands, and a premature desire to smoke yet-to-be-cured product. YMMV.
 
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I just toss em in the same closet that my clothes live in. It's dark, ambient temp, and I won't accidentally kick an ounce of weed across a room haha. I keep my house at about the same temp you do (my ol lady and kids hate me, but over 68F and I'm sweating my balls off).

You just gotta be on point with burping them at this stage. If any mold spores have settled, the microclimate that this step creates WILL germinate mold (I've lost harvests at this point) so you must keep up with the burping and do a thorough mixing every burp.
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Will do. Fortunately I haven't had any issues with mold but I also want to keep it that way. I appreciate all the advice though hopefully it will make a big difference here at my next dry and cure.
 
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