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Here's a question about 600w vs 1k

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SpiderK said:
So it is smart asking questions. It's the problem without knowing a business from the bottom how can you trust " talkers " with millions on the line.

The $$$ men worry about 1 thing, yield per sqft. / cost. What looks good on paper ..... gulp.
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#22
I appreciate all the responses (good and bad)
I will set up a journal and share it here for any and all interested parties.
To those who say I have no clue what I'm doing you may be right but probably wrong. When I set out to build my first 10,000 sqf house people told me I was crazy and had no idea what I was doing. 19 months later it was featured in house and home magazine..........
 
#23
would def go the 600s with yer setup bro. coverage over penetration. fewer 1ks will be brighter at points, but fail at the edges.

anyway, i reckon yer doin the right thing askin question. no question is a dumb question imho. better to ask n learn than to be too proud n make a grave mistake. that said, ya really wanna already know what er doin before jumpin into a op that big with so much ridin on it. theoretical knowledge is all well n good, but it will never compare to experience.

neverbreak
 
#24
Raise the ceiling height as you can always lower lights and raise plants but it's a ton of work to try to rebuild a room.
Ducting an additional 33 lights is a lot more costly than you think.
Props to Sixstring about the dimmables. Think only one brand had the dimming set so you can adjust bulbs. The rest are trash.
If you plan to build another room think flip box.
Just a few thoughts.
 
#25
neverbreak said:
would def go the 600s with yer setup bro. coverage over penetration. fewer 1ks will be brighter at points, but fail at the edges.

anyway, i reckon yer doin the right thing askin question. no question is a dumb question imho. better to ask n learn than to be too proud n make a grave mistake. that said, ya really wanna already know what er doin before jumpin into a op that big with so much ridin on it. theoretical knowledge is all well n good, but it will never compare to experience.

neverbreak
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Thanks bro. The biggest problem is that there are not a lot of people who do have the experience with large scale commercial grows and trust me we are small, small in comparison to some I have seen. Just trying to get all points covered. Regardless the grow team will prefer 1000watt over the 600's so why fix it if ain't broke. I do however plan on getting a research and development license that will give me the freedom of trying out any lighting options available and being able to write off the cost. So once we are up and running I'll be keeping a fairly detailed log on what we are doing in the r and d room.
Just read a thread on a guy that is using a combo of induction lighting mixed with led. Even threw in some t5's for some extra punch. These are the kind of things that excite the shit out of me. Can't wait to get moving here.
 
#26
sixstring said:
600 are in theory more efficient as in lumens per watt.but big plants need big lights imo so if your growing plants over 5 feet tall go with the big lights.if your growing short stuff and trimming off the bottom branches you can do real well with 600's and get about 30" of productive canopy.
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Hey six thanks for your input. Saw your pics that you posted. Very nice sir! Very nice
 
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[quote ="SpiderK, post: 1233924, member: 60928"]Funny, the $$$ men have no clue & a large grow is pandoras box.... as our state is coming online we have clowns hitting up grow stores looking for .... hold it .... 20k clones :eek:

My buddies neighbor hit colo with 1M lost every penny / 4yrs went thru 3 growers per year, .....[/quote]
 
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newentown said:
[quote ="SpiderK, post: 1233924, member: 60928"]Funny, the $$$ men have no clue & a large grow is pandoras box.... as our state is coming online we have clowns hitting up grow stores looking for .... hold it .... 20k clones :eek:

My buddies neighbor hit colo with 1M lost every penny / 4yrs went thru 3 growers per year, .....
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Sounds like your buddies neighbor was one of those $$$ men that had no idea what he was doing.....shame!
 
#29
IMO, 2 rooms with 1K Gavita's on a custom flip box is the way to go. Thanks for making me daydream for a minute!
 
#30
tngreen said:
IMO, 2 rooms with 1K Gavita's on a custom flip box is the way to go. Thanks for making me daydream for a minute!
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Can you buy replacement bulbs for the gavita other than from gavita?They claim the bulbs can go for as long as 2 years but they aren't air cooled. Yeah they do claim the ballast are somewhat cool to the touch but the bulbs must be hot as hell. If I'm running 50 of them with no vented hoods I'm gonna be spending a fortune in a/c. Also the gavita's have the ballast attached to the reflector so I'm not sure how the flip box thing would work?? Obviously they must have the more traditional ballast/reflector combos
Anybody else care to touch on this?
 
#31
They do have remote ballasts for their 1k's however at 400v to the bulb you'll be hard pressed to find a flip that'll handle it. I've melted more than one.
 
#32
newentown said:
I appreciate all the responses (good and bad)
I will set up a journal and share it here for any and all interested parties.
To those who say I have no clue what I'm doing you may be right but probably wrong. When I set out to build my first 10,000 sqf house people told me I was crazy and had no idea what I was doing. 19 months later it was featured in house and home magazine..........
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LOL,You dont have a clue do you?
 
#34
Sounds like your buddies neighbor was one of those $$$ men that had no idea what he was doing.....shame!

Indeed. His family had money, his partner had 200 million from the option pits in chicago .... smart guys.

Understood cds tranche ect ...but not canna, so stupid .... like all the idiots who became builders in 2005. Some got lucky riding the credit wave shit we still have catz that think they are $$$ but yet uncle ben and 0% rates have saved said asses.. But those people still walk around like they know something .....

We have a mod on these boards running commercial in colo, maybe shoot him some p.m.'s. 9 out of 10 get crushed. Commercial is nothing like 100,200 plants.
 
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#36
You can run 600 or 1K thats not the point. Either system can bank $$$$.

Now figure out the other 45 variables that change with other changes ..... Every move you make changes 15 other things .... More fans less humidity ect ....

Buy a Dunkin Donuts & make 70K a year and be happy ....
 
#37
newentown said:
[quote ="SpiderK, post: 1233924, member: 60928"]Funny, the $$$ men have no clue & a large grow is pandoras box.... as our state is coming online we have clowns hitting up grow stores looking for .... hold it .... 20k clones :eek:

My buddies neighbor hit colo with 1M lost every penny / 4yrs went thru 3 growers per year, .....
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SpiderK said:
I'll spell it out your gonna get crushed ......
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Well we shall see about that I suppose. I'm more of a crusher myself..........haters gonna hate!
 
#38
Another pointer make sure the 1000 don't have glass cleaning those gets old fast ....... more lost overhead lol ........
 
#39
SpiderK said:
You can run 600 or 1K thats not the point. Either system can bank $$$$.

Now figure out the other 45 variables that change with other changes ..... Every move you make changes 15 other things .... More fans less humidity ect ....

Buy a Dunkin Donuts & make 70K a year and be happy ....
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I made 70k when I was 17. Lmao
 
#40

Well we shall see about that I suppose. I'm more of a crusher myself..........haters gonna hate![/quote]


I really do not care myself. I'm working toward the same thing in ill .....

But I also understand your going against the pro's. Can you compete against a greenhouse run by pro's ? No you can not not with a 600 or 1K not in the long run ....

You have no idea whats coming. They are heading into colo , they will control most everything in the long run.
 
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