Moe.Red
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i cant get anything loaded. The cut was taken May 10th 2019 to locate in my thread. Hope i got enough posted for ya @Moe.Red
It seemed the only way to keep cuts and stay in plant count.
i found reveg clones grow much better and more natural than revegged whole plants. They become a stringy mess often.
I think -- at least for me -- we're racing to an undefined finish line. Since we don't really have any short and long term goals as a group, I'm pretty sure we have disparate endpoints.
For me, it's just about THCV. If, through this effort, I end up with a jar of fem seeds of plants that are >3% THCV, and low in THC, I'll be home. From there, I can simply dose with the V strain, and supplement with other strains depending on circumstances; e.g. maybe wake up to a does of the V, followed by some Harlequin or ACDC to get me going and soothe the arthritis, then in the evening, some V (of course), topped by some aged Gold Leaf, or other higher THC plus CBD.
Does this sound like what everyone else is thinking, or, for those of you whose interest is piqued re: THCV, but aren't using it yet, perhaps there are other goals.
All that said, I believe we should be focusing on the strains that are specifically advertised to be high in the V rather than mixing in strains that are *probably* higher than average -- e.g. Ethiopian, Balkhi, etc. -- so, T-Vic and the Mad Villain. I know Red is working out the logistics for the T-Vic, and since I have some of the Mad Villain, I'll try to find a spot for a couple of trial plants. The MVs are F1 hybrids between a high THCV strain and some CBG-hemp strain. They actually could be what I want, though, because they're advertised in the 7% THCV range with no THC.
My meager effort to organize my thoughts. Statements of alternate realities encouraged.
DragonFlameGenetics moved to Hawaii with the aim of developing hardy strains under the hot sun, in extreme humidity and with extreme pest and pathogen presence. 2 strains that are sativa dominant and have long flowering times are the Missy's Stash(Congolese Kush x Dragons Stash) and Yunnan Dragon(China Yunnan Cangshen x Dragons Stash). Not sure what test results they produce, but just reading the thread from the beginning and this ticks a lot of the boxes mentioned previously.If it were me, i think I might dig until i find a strain with significant thcv, pair it to one of those bad boys who shows good thcv, cross them, find two good F1s, cross that, and i bet you could find a pretty special F2 with enough digging. That is my gut take on that, several bowls deep at nearly 1am local. Lol.
I would also look hard at hawaiian gear and environment. Humidity, pressure, light, etc.
Hey farmers, I have a lot to catch up on in the thread, I'll try to get to that shortly. In the meantime, I present without comment, although I'm a bit miffed
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Hey farmers, I have a lot to catch up on in the thread, I'll try to get to that shortly. In the meantime, I present without comment, although I'm a bit miffed
What a pisser. So they gave you everything except what you asked for; crap!
The response:
Our standard only includes the 10 listed cannabinoids. We have run a THCV standard before, so we could potentially compare your sample back to that. We'll take a look at it and keep you updated.
We are still working up the terpene data for sample A, but it is possible that we will need more of sample A, as well as sample B. The terpenes test suggests 250 mg, and after preparing the sample for potency, there was only 190 mg remaining. If you could please let me know when you would be able to drop off more of both samples, that would be appreciated!
There are 2 other labs I can try if this one does not work out.
this is one of those times where i would write "My mistake. I thought you guys had done this before. I feel awful putting you guys in a tough spot asking you to do something complicated like this. " before deleting and finding a diplomatic answer.
wanted more sample to test, or they just really like your weed.....The response:
Our standard only includes the 10 listed cannabinoids. We have run a THCV standard before, so we could potentially compare your sample back to that. We'll take a look at it and keep you updated.
We are still working up the terpene data for sample A, but it is possible that we will need more of sample A, as well as sample B. The terpenes test suggests 250 mg, and after preparing the sample for potency, there was only 190 mg remaining. If you could please let me know when you would be able to drop off more of both samples, that would be appreciated!
There are 2 other labs I can try if this one does not work out.
wanted more sample to test, or they just really like your weed.....
Can't imagine why? It's just your run of the mill shitty THC blip hybrid bullshit. Nothing special to see here.
Now the terpenes? This is where entourage is proven in my mind. Those 2 strains are unidentifiable from each other by cannabinoid profile, however 1 is my wife's favorite, and one she couldn't give 2 shits about.
That *is* interesting. How does she consume?
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... Crap I gotta stop typing now.
Gotta admit, i was startled at first by the everclear bottles....
Gotta admit, i was startled at first by the everclear bottles....
Straight? no chaser?What, I'm on vacation! I do 3 by lunch and 4 more before bed. Don't judge me.
53% THCV ?More info from the lab this morning:
We were able to take a look at the THCV in your samples. The response of THCV is well below our limit of quantification (LOQ). There is a very small amount of THCV in both of the samples you provided, so considering the response is below LOQ, we can only give an approximation of ~0.2 ug/mL, or ~0.2% THCV in each sample.
So much for Jack the Ripper being a stable strain. If any of the seeds have remarkable THCV, I haven't seen them. I'm sick of getting sold seeds that are nothing like the marketing BS about them.
Oh, and the lab results correlated with my TLC tests perfectly, just with more precision. So no need to lab test until I get that THCV spike in TLC going forward. That said, looking back at all my past TLC plates, they pretty much all have a tiny blip of THCV. I'm still trying to decide what that means from a genetics standpoint. THC and THCV are so damned similar
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THC and CBD come from CBG. THCV is a homologue of THC - just a shorter tail, but comes from a completely different precursor CBGv and a completely different process. If all plants have at least a little of it, what controls the expression of the different cannabinoids? One study from the 70s shows a plant with 53% THCV!!!! WHY? What is the plant doing? Attracting something to it or protecting itself from something? Just a random situation that really does nothing for the plant kinda like our appendix? Do I need a pest of some sort to initiate one precursor to form more than another? Or is it the enzyme that does the conversion that needs to be stimulated somehow? What is it about Africa that stimulates THCV? Just localized genetics running their course via natural selection or something else?
THC Victory seeds germinated. 6/6. Moving to Veg tent this weekend. Praying this is not a repeat of Jack the Ripper. I also have Durban Poison in flower now too. Hoping to get answers to some of these questions soon. We'll see.
53% THCV ?
Seems impossible but who knows.
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