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Welcome!!! Do you have a website or did I miss that.?
www.ScynceLED.comWelcome!!! Do you have a website or did I miss that.?
Just did some quick searching on this. I still have no idea what diodes are used or specs on components etc.
If light spread is what your all about they seem legit judging from what I have seen. As for the quality??? Hopefully we get some answers on specs and components.
This light spread comes at a cost like other optics the overall output is reduced.
Not for me but for someone very height limited it would make sense.
Providing quality is not an issue and the reduced efficiency is not an issue I could see these optics making it ideal for small tents just because of its light spread. I mean there are other ways to skin this cat but for someone looking not to do a bunch of diy and calculations.... There is a market for this.
The light spread is what I see as potentially novel here, allowing light to penetrate canopies more strongly at an angle vs vertical. However, folks may want to see it demonstrated somehow to be convinced. Furthermore, someone could develop an aftermarket lens that could create the same/similar light spread.
The computer stuff is applying existing technology and useful to larger scale setups or the hobbyist that wants to create daylight spectrums in their grow space. I've read about some folks writing their own programs on raspberry pi's that mimic real sun intensity, but they cant change spectrums.
Please see my (lengthy) response to Aqua Man as it should answer most of your questions. If you want to be considered for our Key Partner test grow program, please reach out to: garrett@scynce.ag Thanks!Pop me a light and i’ll Compete it against all the major competitors if you ever wanted a tester/compare journal ( I do COB,HLG AND OSRAM led’s) cause from your spectrums your showing and how it’s presented and shown, bring it and actions speak more than words towards the masses .
just because your meter shows a lot or it will do beat other lights (people want to see compares of lights or user reviews ), doesn’t mean it will beat or bring in more yields and think in masse amount of lights , if that light is bringing more heat vs the competition, That just makes issues on a LP ON just choosing a better light because they need to justify less a/c and less btu for their room ( look at so many of these grows where it must be led’s And it’s 100-1000 lights or more, in high climates )
Not trying to be negative in any way. Just saying ( show the math or a compare or someone who’s using your products in a grow)
Not just paid grows sayings “it’s amazing”, that’s not a review . once people see from people who actually bought it, more believable on the choice and review score ( at least for me )
Anyways your tech’s look cool and very well done video’s , keep it up and love seeing tech like this coming in the market!
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I don't see reply.Please see my (lengthy) response to Aqua Man as it should answer most of your questions. If you want to be considered for our Key Partner test grow program, please reach out to: garrett@scynce.ag Thanks!
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China is where the worry is... I'm a big believer that r&d should be supported. I'm not a fan of the Chinese knock offs for this reason. Not that some aren't decent but stealing tech just rubs me wrong.For sure the optics are one of the key benefits and differentiators to how we are focusing on increasing yields. Spectrum tuning is another. The optics can't be re-created, legally, as they are protected in the US and Canada under patents: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=9,943,040.PN.&OS=PN/9,943,040&RS=PN/9,943,040
1) there is a HUGE difference between lights for vehicles and lights for growing.Wow, lot's of good questions here. My apologies in advance as this might get a little lengthy.
1.) We are still a relatively new company (R&D started in 2014, patents filed in 2016, launched to market in late 2017) but our roots come from our 10 year reign in the automotive/marine industry (www.rigidindustries.com) going back to the early 2,000's.
2.) Diode selection isn't based on what the manufacturers tell us as it normally doesn't check out. Each week we are testing new chips in our in-house sphere and goniospectrophotometer. We are nimble enough to never build more than 500 lights without re-evaluating what chips we should go with on the next run. Today, we use Osram (Duris & Oslon) 5050 top bins for our whites (2700k & 6500K) and reds (660 & 720nm). We are currently testing new Cree, Luminous & Lumileds parts, which show potential to outperform everything in the market. If they pass our in-house testing and in-field testing then we swap them into the next build. Since we previously bought 100's millions of chips over the past 2 decades we get first access to new parts at the best prices possible.
3.) We knew optics were important when we pioneered the use of them on LEDs in the automotive industry 15 years ago. We brought this knowledge and science to horticulture and recently I found this reference document from Cree that is 3 years old (see page 17 ---> ). Here's the amazing part, the lights compared show that the LED fixture without optics is 13.3% more efficient than the one with optics. However, when looking at average PPFD over a 4x4 area, the fixture with optics delivered a 26% higher average. The moral of the story is that the efficiency of a light shouldn't be the only metric we make decisions by. Where the proverbial rubber meets the road is in PPFD readings at and below the canopy. I wish I could say that the data from this LED manufacturer pushed us into designing lights with optics. Alas, it did not, but here's more 3rd party data that the proof is in the pudding. Engine level horsepower means nothing if you can't get that power through your tires to the road. Light delivery is a key element to the future science of cannabis cultivation.
4.) These lights are completely sealed and can be cleaned with standard products that growers know and trust, such as ZeroTol:
5.) Spectrum tuning is an interesting topic. It's true that we are one of the only wireless spectrum tunable lights yet I am well aware that the benefits to this aren't fully proven yet. Everything comes down to yield (either in weight or better lab results) otherwise it really doesn't matter. There is early evidence that investing in technology today that has spectrum tuning capabilities will pay off in the long run. Here's non-published scientific analysis on reds at the end of the flowering cycle: https://www.maximumyield.com/how-minerals-and-light-affect-terpene-production/2/17531
6.) There have been many successes across our 300+ installations to date, but many are closed lip. If you search IG for #scynceled or #scyncegrown you will see many success stories. Some of our more respected & visible grow/test partners across different grow styles and sizes are:
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1. It's great to see a new company doing R&D in horticulture lighting and I appreciate the response.Wow, lot's of good questions here. My apologies in advance as this might get a little lengthy.
1.) We are still a relatively new company (R&D started in 2014, patents filed in 2016, launched to market in late 2017) but our roots come from our 10 year reign in the automotive/marine industry (www.rigidindustries.com) going back to the early 2,000's.
2.) Diode selection isn't based on what the manufacturers tell us as it normally doesn't check out. Each week we are testing new chips in our in-house sphere and goniospectrophotometer. We are nimble enough to never build more than 500 lights without re-evaluating what chips we should go with on the next run. Today, we use Osram (Duris & Oslon) 5050 top bins for our whites (2700k & 6500K) and reds (660 & 720nm). We are currently testing new Cree, Luminous & Lumileds parts, which show potential to outperform everything in the market. If they pass our in-house testing and in-field testing then we swap them into the next build. Since we previously bought 100's millions of chips over the past 2 decades we get first access to new parts at the best prices possible.
3.) We knew optics were important when we pioneered the use of them on LEDs in the automotive industry 15 years ago. We brought this knowledge and science to horticulture and recently I found this reference document from Cree that is 3 years old (see page 17 ---> ). Here's the amazing part, the lights compared show that the LED fixture without optics is 13.3% more efficient than the one with optics. However, when looking at average PPFD over a 4x4 area, the fixture with optics delivered a 26% higher average. The moral of the story is that the efficiency of a light shouldn't be the only metric we make decisions by. Where the proverbial rubber meets the road is in PPFD readings at and below the canopy. I wish I could say that the data from this LED manufacturer pushed us into designing lights with optics. Alas, it did not, but here's more 3rd party data that the proof is in the pudding. Engine level horsepower means nothing if you can't get that power through your tires to the road. Light delivery is a key element to the future science of cannabis cultivation.
4.) These lights are completely sealed and can be cleaned with standard products that growers know and trust, such as ZeroTol:
5.) Spectrum tuning is an interesting topic. It's true that we are one of the only wireless spectrum tunable lights yet I am well aware that the benefits to this aren't fully proven yet. Everything comes down to yield (either in weight or better lab results) otherwise it really doesn't matter. There is early evidence that investing in technology today that has spectrum tuning capabilities will pay off in the long run. Here's non-published scientific analysis on reds at the end of the flowering cycle: https://www.maximumyield.com/how-minerals-and-light-affect-terpene-production/2/17531
6.) There have been many successes across our 300+ installations to date, but many are closed lip. If you search IG for #scynceled or #scyncegrown you will see many success stories. Some of our more respected & visible grow/test partners across different grow styles and sizes are:
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