I want to see an actual grow with these lights. Not theories or "claims" about spectrum, output, turning lead into gold. I am a grower of many different plants indoor and out for over 40 years. I have read much bs from many "experts" who have ended up burning consumers financially, me being one of them. Tired of shoddy construction, parts, especially from knock off Chinese companies. And I think it is crap that a forum would ban someone for asking honest questions just because they are skeptical.