Is my plant sick dtw runtz

mark360jones · Nov 12, 2022

Ph 007 said:
Here is a food link
Calmag also help a stabilise the ph in the medium

CANNA CALMAG AGENT | CANNA UK

www.canna-uk.com

You seem to know your sruff Maybe more then me ;)

Hermie is not good hopfully want

Is that pump waterfalling to get new air in they res? They will make it smell or water temo to hot?
68-70f is good

Maybe try power ph 5mset 5.8 Leave drift to 6.2 and reset I aim for 5.8-6 some say 6-6.2 and some say late flower 6-6.2 for different nutrients uptake,

Thats all I can help you with lol let me know how that calmag goes

Off to bed now chow for now

Night bud, I will keep the thread posted and updated. I wouldn't say I'm that knowledgeable but I know enough to get me to the end. Pump makes the surface boil and chiller keeps the temp at 18c - 19c keeps the tank smelling fresh throughout until nutrient change (silver bullet kills bacteria). When I add my nutrient it automatically brings the ph to around 5.9 lowest but usually bang on 6.0 so I rarely have to us a ph up/down unless it goes to ph6.2

mark360jones · Nov 12, 2022

freezeland2 said:
Didn’t realize you are not here. It’s a roots organic product if those are available where you are. I only mentioned it because you said you have had limited success finding calmag without added npk. I too don’t believe you are experiencing a calmag issue. Good luck. I’m sure you’ll get it sorted.

I dont think I've got a calmag issue either to be 100% totally honest as only one being affected same strain but look totally different like chalk and cheese with the deformity, id understand if it was slightly different to the rest. But I won't rule it out just yet, I cannot find a picture or information that shown my symptoms anywhere

Ph 007 · Nov 12, 2022

Here's mine in veg bee weeks ago
No calmag and it was even soft water nutrients

Ph 007 · Nov 12, 2022

And this is s them now 3 weaks into flower i been addding calmag 0.5ml of vitalink every feed since they got sick in veg and the calmag fixed it. I'm even using soft water nutants aswell 0.5ml was 0.2e.c

This is them now they pulled through nice , they gone down hill a tad the last 2 days I run out of vitalink and used calmag agent went bad then weird, back on low nitrogen calmag now hofully be good 100% healthy in a day or so I hole

mark360jones · Nov 12, 2022

The 13th pic with the leaf starting to wrinkle looks simlar but the colour is lighter. Again only the one plant is affected in mine so I'm leaning towards extra calmag this plant see how it gets on

mark360jones · Nov 12, 2022

Ph 007 said:
And this is s them now 3 weaks into flower i been addding calmag 0.5ml of vitalink every feed since they got sick in veg and the calmag fixed it. I'm even using soft water nutants aswell 0.5ml was 0.2e.c

This is them now they pulled through nice , they gone down hill a tad the last 2 days I run out of vitalink and used calmag agent went bad then weird, back on low nitrogen calmag now hofully be good 100% healthy in a day or so I hole

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Looking really good now

Aqua Man · Nov 12, 2022

mark360jones said:
@Moe.Red @logic @Aqua Man can your knowledge help here it would be much appreciated

whats the question bro… sorry been super busy lately so dont have time to read back

mark360jones · Nov 12, 2022

Aqua Man said:
whats the question bro… sorry been super busy lately so dont have time to read back

Basically I'm running 8 girls in drain to waste one girl seems smaller /stunted + has wavey type leaves on 50% of the whole plant seems mainly fan leaf. Not had time to get a pic of the plant but I did pull a fan leaf before I did this thread which I've attached . I use masterblend the same as my previous threads and I'm nearly approaching week 3 12/12.
Again it's 1 plant affected all the same strain, using seeds that I recovered from the last time I grew this strain (defeated me so decided to give it a go again and eliminate the reason for hermie). It self pollinated due to a red light for the extension cable being on 24hr, literally illuminated the whole room.
Anyway I've go off the subject, I've posted pics of my vpd and room temp humidity and also my ppfd (still using 4x mars sp3000)

Aqua Man · Nov 13, 2022

mark360jones said:
Basically I'm running 8 girls in drain to waste one girl seems smaller /stunted + has wavey type leaves on 50% of the whole plant seems mainly fan leaf. Not had time to get a pic of the plant but I did pull a fan leaf before I did this thread which I've attached . I use masterblend the same as my previous threads and I'm nearly approaching week 3 12/12.
Again it's 1 plant affected all the same strain, using seeds that I recovered from the last time I grew this strain (defeated me so decided to give it a go again and eliminate the reason for hermie). It self pollinated due to a red light for the extension cable being on 24hr, literally illuminated the whole room.
Anyway I've go off the subject, I've posted pics of my vpd and room temp humidity and also my ppfd (still using 4x mars sp3000)

Is that plant closest to the fan, heater or AC? Thats what ir kinda looks like to me

mark360jones · Nov 13, 2022

Aqua Man said:
Is that plant closest to the fan, heater or AC? Thats what ir kinda looks like to me

Fan is in the centre oscillating so the affected plant gets the same as the one next to it, to be honest the one next to it is in more direct air movement as its taller. Also a fan at the other end of the room no plants affected by this. Both fans are set on speed 2 so not very powerful just enough to move them slightly.

Aqua Man · Nov 13, 2022

mark360jones said:
Fan is in the centre oscillating so the affected plant gets the same as the one next to it, to be honest the one next to it is in more direct air movement as its taller. Also a fan at the other end of the room no plants affected by this. Both fans are set on speed 2 so not very powerful just enough to move them slightly.

Ok ao id start by swapping the location of the plant… that will tell you a lot. If they are all from seed then it could be a different phenotype that is weak

Clyde4210 · Nov 13, 2022

mark360jones said:
Does anyone know the cause of this leaf disfigurement. So I have 8 girls from seed all on drain to waste system so there all getting the same feed 3 times a day. There approaching the start of 3rd week of 12/12, out of the 8 only one is showing leaves like this ( not all leaves on the plant but the majority of the fan leaves ), it also seems a little smaller than the rest. In the 2nd photo it the back right plant that is different. The fan is oscillating so I don't think it's to do with that as the front 2 also have a fan close and the back left is also getting the same fan.
Ph at the minute has crept up to 6.2 (i like to keep it at 6 but dont mind it between 5.8-6.2) but I will lower it down again, nutrient temp is at 15c and the ec is 1.2 going in and 0.9 in the runoff. I am currently still using masterblend like my previous threads vpd seem ok too

I would go back to humidity and see if your humidifier is blowing on that plant. Or maybe a fan is directly blowing on it.

Ph 007 · Nov 17, 2022

Did you figure it out, I was just looking at your profile pics, nice bit of equipment 2 of then wall blue labs lol in and out
I see temps 25-26c ain't that a bit cold for led? Or is it not led?

mark360jones · Nov 17, 2022

Ph 007 said:
Did you figure it out, I was just looking at your profile pics, nice bit of equipment 2 of then wall blue labs lol in and out
I see temps 25-26c ain't that a bit cold for led? Or is it not led?

Hi sorry for the late reply been mega busy, things seem to have sorted itself out and improved a lot. Im wondering if it was a ph issue at the roots (weird as there all getting the same feed @ the same ph, only difference is there the same strain but from seed). I gave a heavy defoliating @ day 1 of week 3 flower after I saw the plant improve, but seems to have stunted it slightly compared to the rest.

Yeah im using led's '4x mars sp3000', the temp I've always kept around 26c ish.

Habosabin · Nov 17, 2022

I'm curious because my plants seem to do this as well.

mark360jones · Nov 17, 2022

Clyde4210 said:
I would go back to humidity and see if your humidifier is blowing on that plant. Or maybe a fan is directly blowing on it.

No humidifier on at the minute and fan was blowing oscillating and on low speed, to be honest its not that close

mark360jones · Nov 17, 2022

Aqua Man said:
Ok ao id start by swapping the location of the plant… that will tell you a lot. If they are all from seed then it could be a different phenotype that is weak

I think the pheno needed to adjust a little longer, seem to have sorted itself out which is leaning me toward a ph at root level issue.

Ph 007 · Nov 17, 2022

Mine hace been acting funny aswell everytime I try coco it plays up fucking head work soil get nine of these problem , if littelly tested everything low feed high feed with and without calmag, oh pen all calibrated fuck knows must be something in my water reacting with coco.

Mine still look ok but they where all a healthy green and no yellow tips or red stem , I'm off the calmag at a minute just to see if they get worst been 3 days now they not get better nore worst lol stayed the same but I also de-leafed end of week 1 then and of week 3 like you..
Usually i do just once at end of week 2 ,