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Not sure where you got your information? WA state took applications for a 30 day period. In that time frame there were right at 2800 applications for growers. EVERYONE that applied to grow that can pass the background check, fills out there application properly and has a viable business plan will be licensed to grow. They are not limiting the number of growers here from that pool of 2800 applications. Even though the state projects that they want to set a 2 million square feet of canopy cap for the state they will not do anything about that for at least a year to see how people do with their grows, how much canopy they actually put into production and what quantities the actual market will bear. If anything there will be a glut of legal weed in WA state which is most of the growers main concern here. If 2800 growers is not enough they will open their licensing process again to accept more licenses from growers but personally I would not expect that in the next year or maybe more.
The only limit on numbers of licenses being issued is for retail shops of which they have limited to 334 throughout the state and they only allow a certain number per community or in areas with lower populations they only allow a certain number per county. People applying for retail shops will have to be in a lottery if more people applied than there are allotted spots for.
More hands in the pot so to speak:) Retail always counts on a 100% markup. When I can grow 700 lbs at a time outdoors I am happy with $1000 per lb and I only applied for the second tier of growing, a canopy of 10,000 square feet or less. Many people have applied for as many as 3 licenses at the third tier, 30,000 square feet of canopy. That is lots of weed:)
More hands in the pot so to speak:) Retail always counts on a 100% markup. When I can grow 700 lbs at a time outdoors I am happy with $1000 per lb and I only applied for the second tier of growing, a canopy of 10,000 square feet or less. Many people have applied for as many as 3 licenses at the third tier, 30,000 square feet of canopy. That is lots of weed:)
Legal weed will not kill of medical. It will however be regulated here now. The reason you can buy a lb of killer bud for $1600 here now is that so many people grow "medical" that there is literally a glut of good weed here. There has been no regulation of the medical market here at all. You just need a "dr." to give you a prescription (that you pay a roving naturopath $200 for) and you can have up to 2 lbs in your pocket at any time and grow up to 15 plants at a time. Of course that is not monitored in any way. The new rules for medical will allow 2 oz but only 1 oz on your person and 6 plants. Personally I think it should just be legal, straight across the board for everyone but that is not the case and I am lucky that I am in a position to be a "legal" grower and make a reasonable amount of cash while the getting is good. We won't be gouging people for high prices. I am hoping the price in shops stays below $250 per oz as a maximum which to me is reasonable.
And you think that's ok? A person that grows to supply RSO for cancer needs won't even be able to do that under the new recommendations.The new rules for medical will allow 2 oz but only 1 oz on your person and 6 plants.
Oh my....I have never and would never tell anyone how to use their medicine. I think there is no reason to debate this. Legal weed is happening here. Medical weed will be regulated. Not my choosing...just the way it is going to go. I am simply working with the laws that are in place and I have no doubt at all that I will be successful. You are absolutely wrong about the herb available here. I am here and I do know what I am talking about. I can buy a lb today of top shelf herb for $1600 and after 30 years of experience using the stuff I am pretty sure I know what killer is. That does not mean that all weed here is so cheap to buy but right now I have no problem finding it at this price. I know multiple people that grow here with their "medical" card and are sitting on 30-40 lbs right now that they cannot sell even at that price. I have no reason to lie about this:-/I can almost guarantee that whatever you're buying for $1600/lb is not "killer weed", unless you have a personal relationship with a big grower or some special circumstance. And you're wrong, rec will kill medical. That's the plan the LCB has recommended in order to reinforce their future sales. They know that not one person that has a card now would pay more to go to a rec store than their local dispensary. And since so many people have their cards now the LCB knows it'll take a large portion of their sales away. Read the recommendations I linked earlier. And what's the problem with allowing people that use it for medical purposes to grow 15 plants and have 1 1/2 lbs? You have no clue how people use their medicine and you have no right to tell people if they're not using to your medical standards.
Who is this "we" you speak of? You'll have no control of the end price. The prices are already set to gouge people.
250 and oz..... after taxes or before???
im not talking trash dude, a 300 light spot here in denver went under real quick and the guy runnin it had your attitude. after everyone gets their cut, from the government to the trimmers and growers to the budtenders, you need to make more than that, cause nobody is working for a mcdonalds wage at a fuckin herb grow. you have to make people happy cause at the end of the day THEY grow your herb, and i know you in your 50s arent going to run multi light multi room spot by yourself.
you think all those people doing work are going to watch you pocket 50K gettin paid 8$ an hour??? no dude. doesnt work.
unless you automate everything down to the trimming, your shit WILL be 1k a unit cause it'll be some bammer. you want quality, you pay for it. on both sides grower and smoker.
Oh my....I have never and would never tell anyone how to use their medicine. I think there is no reason to debate this. Legal weed is happening here. Medical weed will be regulated. Not my choosing...just the way it is going to go. I am simply working with the laws that are in place and I have no doubt at all that I will be successful. You are absolutely wrong about the herb available here. I am here and I do know what I am talking about. I can buy a lb today of top shelf herb for $1600 and after 30 years of experience using the stuff I am pretty sure I know what killer is. That does not mean that all weed here is so cheap to buy but right now I have no problem finding it at this price. I know multiple people that grow here with their "medical" card and are sitting on 30-40 lbs right now that they cannot sell even at that price. I have no reason to lie about this:-/
Your model is correct of supply and demand and the end price will be so high that it will most likely double street prices; making it just boost the black market until like you said, things stabilize.
We have been growing "medical" outdoors here for a number of years, 7-10 lbs per plant and it is wonderful herb depending on what strain you put in.
10 pound plants now huh ?
You should really prepare yourself for some heartache and discontent ...10,000-30,000 canopy is not alot at all..if your not used to seeing some real scale it sounds like alot but 10,000 ft is roughly 300 lights hangin and that is barely entry level in the commercial arena and ultimately by the time you spend what it is goin to take to comply with state regulations for security, process, bonding, licensing and quality control testing your goin to spend a ton of money..the first thing that will go will be your right to grow outside so get ready to suck it up on that one, if the feds can fly over and see it, you don't want to do it..period..Michigan banned all outdoor grows for the exact same reason. Colorado as an example had 10,000+ independent growers supplying the dispensaries at one point then they changed the rules to where only commercial licensed and highly regulated facilities could play and those had to be owned and operated by licensed dispensaries creating a vertical intergration model goin forward and eliminating the the small private growers from the game...long term, if your not a commercial entity in a licensed state regulated grow facility your goin to be out of the game..it just will not be a money makin venture at a small scale
Absolutely! Great outdoor growing here:)
Michigan is an absolute fucking joke right now the GOP and Syder at the wheel , Syder and the GOP already hit the iceberg, their ship is taking on water, Syder toes are getting wet but they just don't think MMJ Voters this fall in Michigan will get out and vote them to the bottom of the Sea, it's coming you NERD it's coming :finger:Michigan never even came close to allowing recreational legal weed sir. The rules are set. Big growers are limited just like I am. You cannot have more than 3 licenses and if you did not already apply for one you won't get one, at least not for a year or two. There will not be any larger growers than what is permitted. Read the rules then you may know more about the system here.
Look people...I am not professing to be an expert on what on earth will happen with legalized weed here in WA state. What I do know is that with the rules in place I can grow weed legally and make money doing it. Works for me:)
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