ezenzyme said:

if you really think its deficient then get some salts that will be avail immediately, and hit her with it. Any liquid nutes will work. Mono potassium phosphate. I would stay from top dressings until she looks a bit better. And if your using unfiltered tap you will have cloriene and clorimide in your water and that will effect your system dramatically. Organic soils act as a buffer for water thats within range but doesn't correct it and can be a issue if your not watching it. Test your runoff, the very first bit, water with plain ph'ed water

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Terpz719 said:

I still struggle trying to figure these things out myself. This is one of the best guides, I've run across.

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Terpz719 said:

You're welcome. It's definitely easier / quicker to tweak things in coco compared to soil. And it seems that nutrient problems usually don't occur in isolation, which makes it harder to solve - like problems showing up in the middle of the plant instead of at the very top or bottom. I don't know, but to me the chemicals are the chemicals regardless if they are direct like salts or are part of kelp.

I'm not a soil grower, but are your or your nutrients supplying beneficial bacteria and or humic acid? It's my understanding that they would go a long way toward helping make the nutrients available to the plant. Just because they are there doesn't mean they available to the plant for uptake. Just some thoughts. Good luck.

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Cracken said:

LEss is more rule. when things go wrong 99% of the time I always see people loading more nuts and more water. and then wonder, whats wrong? Too much love and hurt. I have never seen a plant get issues from only getting water. when issues start people should revert to water only unless they are over watering. better to delay the grow then possibly kill the plant.

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Aqua Man said:

Usually in organics i see either depleted soil or something wiped out the microbes.

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Cracken said:

when guys are running nutes and pulling the ec meter and ppm meter and making a list of all that they have running for food I just assume they are heavy handed on the food. then The PH becomes an issue causing nute blocking. I always go with the rule less is more. he needs to tie down the tops that have grown too high to get rid of the leaf fade and choking from too intense of light on those leaves. That will cause issues on the rest of the plant over time which could be why its getting worst over time. There is so much info available for people to read and learn from on this site and some of the most knowledged growers I have ever met, but most don't bother taking the time to read and learn from others lessons. Aqua, I always enjoy reading your comments and soak up the wisdom that you pass out here on a daily basis so this is not me going against you, just making a point that people need to remember how they learned in school.... read the lessons first then do the work. I had a smoker who liked my bud and asked me to show him how to grow. I wrote everything down, nutes, feed schedule, temps and so on. one week later I go there because his seedlings all died. He felt a little feed would get them growing faster.... after several times going back for issues what he grew and ranted about, I would have thrown away or burnt for potash. wow, I need to lay off the meds before I start typing.

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Terpz719 said:

I still struggle trying to figure these things out myself. This is one of the best guides, I've run across.

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Cracken said:

when guys are running nutes and pulling the ec meter and ppm meter and making a list of all that they have running for food I just assume they are heavy handed on the food. then The PH becomes an issue causing nute blocking. I always go with the rule less is more. he needs to tie down the tops that have grown too high to get rid of the leaf fade and choking from too intense of light on those leaves. That will cause issues on the rest of the plant over time which could be why its getting worst over time. There is so much info available for people to read and learn from on this site and some of the most knowledged growers I have ever met, but most don't bother taking the time to read and learn from others lessons. Aqua, I always enjoy reading your comments and soak up the wisdom that you pass out here on a daily basis so this is not me going against you, just making a point that people need to remember how they learned in school.... read the lessons first then do the work. I had a smoker who liked my bud and asked me to show him how to grow. I wrote everything down, nutes, feed schedule, temps and so on. one week later I go there because his seedlings all died. He felt a little feed would get them growing faster.... after several times going back for issues what he grew and ranted about, I would have thrown away or burnt for potash. wow, I need to lay off the meds before I start typing.

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Slimsearley said:

Woah man I have read a shit ton of stuff in forums and websites... this is my 3rd grow and my 1st fully organic grow so im pretty new to the scene. I have just fucked this one up unfortunately and require some sound advice on what I can do about it. My first two grows were in coco with salts and it was simple, but I wanted to try and simplify things and try to get better quality smoke. Anyway I think I may just keep the nutes for next time and just water to the end see what happens. The buds are fine so im gonna just back off lol

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Cracken said:

anyone can have issues, don't take it personal, next week you might see pics from me asking why my branches are falling off my purple punch plant that was a clone I received full of mites and aphids. I loaded neem oil on it full strength, now some of the branches are dead and falling off. I caused it to myself. never have I had an issue with bugs and one clone has both. no more bugs now but plant is having issues... see we all have issues at times.
But LST will save the tops from burning and then the lower leaves will be able to get more light. If you are full Organic, go to your garden and get some worms for your pots. I feed mine used tea bags (I drink tea every day) that gives them food and they do wonders on the soil for air and nuts. just remember they can drown so a little less water is better. good luck.. hit the next grow out of the park, I know you can do it.

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