Isa Pruning Techniques For The Uc

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johnnyrex

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pruning, defoliating and topping are very important prior to flip.

Remove all suckers from the bottom 12 inches of the plant. Defoliate 10-12 of the largest leaf sets directly blocking bud sites, and yes, top 80% of the very very tip.

defoliate is about every 3-4 days, prune is once prior to flip and once after, and top is 5-6 days prior to flip.

Got it will do thanks once again for all the help DS
 
johnnyrex

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Topping and Purning Questions

hello DS when you said when top 80% of the very very top do you mean like the pic below as I will be trying this for the first time, or is that cutting too low?

Also I am trying to figure out exactly how to purne by the diagram you posted its still un clear to me and you post pics of your purning the pics of pre/post pic in your thread are great but would like to see them from under neith so i can see what branches im i am going to cut without damaging the plants i have never also attempt this neither only when taking clones from lower branches thanks for the great help you have provided me
 
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desertsquirrel

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no, that is way too much.

pull all the leaves back until you find the very smallest set, then rub off 80% of it.
 
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desertsquirrel

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Very few branches are ever pruned, establishing scaffold branches means that you only remove branches that are too close to one another and thus in competition (in our case).

What you do remove however, is all of the suckers and smaller undergrowth connected to the branch so that the bottom most branches are completely clean other then the terminal growth tip; and on the mid branches remove the innermost suckers.

That will remove the portions of growth that get little light and are a drain on the rest of the plants energy and nutrient reserves.
 
johnnyrex

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DS you are the man I am really greatful that you posted up pics of your plants cause I know your a very busy man this is really valuble to me as I see exactly what you mean now I know how to prune this lady's in a couple of days.

How many days prior to flower do you prune I already know by your thread that 6 days after flower also can I prune and top on the same day 5-6 days prior?

This is really great as I am running my first UC run and had a set back in the beginning when I put my plants in the UC in Veg state but now it's on thanks DS
 
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Thanks!!

Thanks for the taking time! That answers every question I had about pruning!!!
 
PrefersHam

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UpSkirt action nice. Serious branch porn. Thanks for the shots.
 
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@ around 25 days:

They are going to be defoliated 1 more time, (tomorrow), ill post after pics as well.

Definately the effects of proper pruning is seen on those pics . Nice stuff , thats brings out the buds sites stronger and better . And also pruning makes plant produce certain hormones in the plant that , and you should wait until the plant recovers and those hormones wear off , plant goes unstressed again , its important to wait for the stress to relieve , to start with next pruning stage or flipping or adding nutes .
 
desertsquirrel

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pruning is not stressful as long as you adhere to the the ISA guidelines.
 
Oregon Panda

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Thank you so much for teaching this instead of lion's tail. This is probably the best thread I've seen on thcf.
Is there any chance you could make a thread on proper plating and potting tech as well?
 
ttystikk

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Thank you so much for teaching this instead of lion's tail. This is probably the best thread I've seen on thcf.
Is there any chance you could make a thread on proper plating and potting tech as well?

Explain; what's the 'lion's tail' technique you mention?
 
Oregon Panda

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Its not a technique, its a fuck up. A very common one even among many of the more seasoned growers I know.
 
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ttystikk

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Its not a technique, its a fuck up. A very common one even among many of the more seasoned growers I know.

Okay, still not clear on what it is/looks like.

I personally do not use that approach (referred to in the attachment you just posted). My aim is to stack the plant's growing mass as much as possible into a relatively thin, flat pancake supported by sticks of main stem and branches that rise up to support it. I do this specifically because I want the growing material to be in the optimum distance zone from the light source.

That tree trimming brochure is fine for outdoor plants, and possibly for vert/bare bulb situations- since I'm not one of those, I can't say.
 
Oregon Panda

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Yeah I saw your plants, they looked great. Basically lions tailing would be the example on the left. Many people do this in hopes to focus the plant's energy on bud growth, but it actually makes your plant shoot off a million suckers and weakens the structure of your branches by throwing the balance off. A kola laying on the ground due to breakage a week before harvest isnt better yeilds.
 
ttystikk

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Yeah I saw your plants, they looked great. Basically lions tailing would be the example on the left. Many people do this in hopes to focus the plant's energy on bud growth, but it actually makes your plant shoot off a million suckers and weakens the structure of your branches by throwing the balance off. A kola laying on the ground due to breakage a week before harvest isnt better yeilds.

I want to be clear about WHY I choose to trim as I do; the tree pruning brochure works for trees because they're outside, where sunlight at the ground is the same as sunlight as high as the tree can reach. This of course is not the case indoors, where distance differences of only a few inches can easily double/halve the amount of light intensity a given leaf is receiving.
 
desertsquirrel

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Yeah I saw your plants, they looked great. Basically lions tailing would be the example on the left. Many people do this in hopes to focus the plant's energy on bud growth, but it actually makes your plant shoot off a million suckers and weakens the structure of your branches by throwing the balance off. A kola laying on the ground due to breakage a week before harvest isnt better yeilds.

Yep, lion tailing is one of the prime examples of how proper techniques employed at improper times can ruin your plants structure rather then improving it. The best way to avoid these issues is to not remove branches/suckers until the last minute possible.

I do almost no pruning at all during veg and top as close to flower as possible.
 
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