Full blown. There are male parts in every quadrant of both plants - not sure how long I will wait to see how bad it gets, but the balls are evenly distributed.
The Lotto is a great comparison, btw: a fool's tax. :)
This is the first I have heard that the chem line was entirely hermy prone - guess I hadn't done enough reading! Makes me a fool! The problem I have is that I asked osg directly weeks ago about the possible male parts I was finding on these plants; there were male and female preflowers in veg that he explained off as abhort bud sites, common in chems. No admission/mention of the chem line's herm tendencies from him, just ideas on why he thought they were happening.
The 'no warning' bit after I asked him in very plain language about the likelihood of hermies in 'many years of test rounds', is really my beef. It's a simple matter of being forthright - instead of lying by omission. Salty.
Been working this since 1993? I think not. Afghani father? Doubtful, too. The whole thing feels like a slipshot s1 pollen chuck to me, not breeding and selecting tirelessly for nearly 20 years. Nice story tho.
In my mind, the situation is something like this: "Does it smell like smoke in here, Ohsogreen?"........ "Nahh ftw, keep napping there on the couch - its all good!"......then I wake up to a kitchen on fire, with firemen shouting that I should have known earlier that the house was on ablaze.
Not that my house has burned to the ground or anything, but my exciting new kitchen is crispy and blackened, and there never was insurance to cover my risk... not saying damage is the firemen's fault either, btw... its just a shame that damage wasn't avoided when it could have been. Ya dig? :)
Part of the learning curve. Thanks for the condolences and helpful input re past experiences. Helps keep things in perspective. Cheers, ftw