oscar169 said:

Make sure you check your E-Bay just bought some 3 more Kilos of the OG BIOWAR....:cigar:

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oscar169 said:

K onto your recipe

RECIPE FOR MOAB w/out vitamin B-1 @ 1 tsp/5 gal:

.1 grams/gal MAP
1.07 grams per gallon MKP

this is based on my MOAB weighing 5.7 grams per teaspoon and coming out to

N:3
P:68
K: 80

when added to 5 gallons of water (recommended dose is 1-2 tsp per 5 gal)

.1 MAP and 1.07 MKP comes out to

N: 3
P: 71
K: 80

so its pretty close considering the small amounts being used. If you want 2 tsp/5 gal strength just double it. .2 MAP and 2.14 MKP.
So to make a 1kg batch of yours is that the same as the recipe that I posted above, witch I don't think is b/c your NPK numbers are way higher in your mix ?
Not sure how I would take the Cap's version and scale it into a 1kg batch..:inpain::inpain:

Then I can just take the 1tsp per 5 gallons like I was with the orginal MOAB

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Coir said:

The ratio of what you posted is approximately 10:1 MKP to MAP so to make a 1kg batch, mix 2lbs MKP and .2lbs MAP together and mix well. Using the 12-61-0 for the MAP would give you a 3-79-81 NPK value(or very close anyway)

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turbo14 said:

Cap,

Are you using the MOAB formula over the Jacks classic booster now? Which B-1s are you using? I ordered some B vitamins from kelp4less, crazy yellow powder. Lemme know whats been working for ya!

much love

turbo

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Capulator said:

@oscar169

It looks like that poster is using npk ratios and not elemental ratios. The difference being when P or K is listed on a label, it is listing P2o5 and K20, which are not quite the same as just listing the elemental ratio of P and K.

P2o5 and K20 have to be broken down, and so usable/available K and usable P are different from what it says on the bag. The usable P and K is found through a mathematical calculation, which is why I use a nutrient calculator like the free one at custom hydro nutrients. This does the math for you.

So for example MKP is 0-52-34 on the bag. When you put this in the nute calculator though at let's say 1 gram in one gallon of water, you will actually get:

0 ppm N
60 ppm P
and 75 ppm K

This is elemental ppm (parts per million), the actual P and K available, not the "numbers on the bag"


You can make a liquid concentrate version if you multiply the required amount per gallon by 250x and then use 15 mL/ gal in your res.

So take a 1 gallon jug, fill it 3/4 full with RO water.

Add 25 grams of MAP and 267.5 grams of MKP.

Fill up the jug the rest of the way with RO water so you have a gallon of solution. You may now use this concentrated solution at 15mL/gallon, the equivalent of one tsp per gallon of powdered MOAB.


Vitamin B is horseshit. Look up the myth of vitamin B it's here on the farm somewhere.

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Capulator said:

@oscar169 did you get it going?

I will post my new formula here (analogs formula) if anyone is interested.

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oscar169 said:

I have been reading till me eyes bleed , have more stuff on the way I will have everything by mid week already have all bags of jacks went with 25 lb bags, once and when I have dry salts figured out I will just about never need to go to the hydro store again !!!!!
Please post up anything u have can never have to much info

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Capulator said:

This is not my formula, it is analogs from another site, but it is a very good formula at the moment. Attached is the PDF. Keep in mind that the formula takes in to consideration my tap water analysis, but if you look at the elemental ppms, that is what I am running. Full strength for flower, cut 75% for veg, cut 50% for cuts.

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