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Blue dream is just about my all time favorite.So this month just about marks a couple years that I've been growing. I've been reminiscing on the progress made over the last couple years, especially in terms of understanding genetics. To this point I've been focusing on building sample size and understanding how various genetics function, both in growth and on my physiology. Things are going to gradually be shifting more towards refining the unique things that have worked for me on some level to this point, though new stuff will still be dropped as well.
Kubanskiy was one of the first round of seeds that I ever dropped and she's finishing up, likely for the last time. The smoke is nice but the colas are barely thicker than my thumb, don't stretch much so the plant need to veg longer, and the bud structure is, for lack of a better term, awkward. Some strains (or phenos of them, the Lemon OG Kush loser was like that) seem to just stack naturally, most gracefully, and some seem to strain to stack at all.
Kubanskiy tends towards the latter in my experience, unfortunately. Both that and Siberian Haze were flipped in the middle of April so they're coming up on 9 weeks of flower this week. Kubanskiy is billed as an 8-9 week strain so it's already in prime cutting range (likely coming down today), while SH is billed at 10-11 weeks. Whether or not it justifies getting there is another story...
It's difficult to justify saving either with G13 Haze, G13 Hazeplant, Pipatxu, Valencian Haze, Haze x Kali China, etc. around. But as so often seems to be the case with this hobby, the juice has definitely been worth the squeeze. The knowledge juice of growing and working with different genetics and friends made along the way, that is. Shout out to all of the awesome people that have sent beans!
The Blue Power Mango and the Blueberry Amnesias are almost a month younger than the Kalashnikov stuff, are showing more trichome and terpene development, and already have thicker buds. Very excited to blaze those two. Blue Power Mango especially, since Mango is so genetically similar to SSH. It'll be interesting comparing that to strains like Silverfields, one of which should be cut right around the same time as both (roughly a month). BPM and Silverfields will get crossed with Ghash/Hazeplant once winners are found as well but that's, like, all down the road.
Now that the Blue Dream x ON Haze beans have popped, I'm very much hoping for a dude to cross with both itself and the Blueberry Amnesia (likely Zhe Pinch too, but that's another project). There are 6 of them, so hopefully a solid dude or two isn't out of the question.
My love of Blue Dream has never really been a secret, obviously- I've wanted to dive into those genetics and pheno hunt for a while- but the only Blue Dream I've grown has been from HSO (rip) and I let my clone of that go when G13 Haze came along. It was good enough but the smoke was pretty average compared to the Blue Dream I had on the East coast. I'm looking for that super loud cat pee and crazy glue with Boo Berry cereal and frankincense flavor with a high like getting head while drinking Champagne in a hot tub.
If I don't get a dude then I'll go back to the Blueberry drawing board and look for some obscure Blueberry like ESB or Blue Bonic to bring those genetics together.
I did a search on this thread to see if there was a description of your pollen collection method. Maybe my search criteria sucked (pollen+collect in this thread), but I came up empty. How do you collect your pollen?Exactly! Como siempre, para siempre.
It's like if new, world-class types of wine grapes were invented every year, all over the world. It's not just a rabbit hole, it's a fuckin' wormhole. An all-encompassing, inescapable vortex.
Kubanskiy is up, rinsed, and hanging. Tp take its place, the more mature of the G13 Hazes will get flipped and topped later today. That is, once this last warhead of Heavy Grapefruit mixed with Moonshine Amnesia has worn off to the point where I'm ambulant again. HG is a very, very solid indica.
The first two Afghan females got repotted and their stems bent today. I'm not going to top them as I would usually do because that introduces an unnecessary variable, but I need to manage their height somehow. Once the next four have new homes I'll put the dudes back under 12/12 for pollen collection. To be completely honest, I'm not expecting much besides a decent, solid, stacky indica from this small of a Ghani sample size. I was hoping for roughly double this number of ladies, but germ rate shit happens. I doubt there's a keeper in these 11 or 12 plants, male or female. but I have a feeling there's a fuckin' unicorn to be found among their progeny.
...and I already have G13 Hazeplant pollen!There are two dudes of roughly equal vigor so far, so if there's a winner he's TBD. They're both in the early stages of stretch, so there's a lot to learn and observe.
Regardless, those genetics will definitely get hit to the Ghash keeper, Haze (!), G13 Haze (or haze-less, as it were/is), Bubba Hash (the name for that cross just came to me: Ghazhbhazh!), Pipatxu, and Killer Colombian Lamb (actually the only one of those with any NL/Skunk in it- from C99, two paternal generations ago via Killer Queen) when the time comes. In addition, of course, to working that line further. Maybe also with Diesel Ghash, we'll see how those come along.
Got some DJ short blueberry beans I’m gonna pop in another month or so I’ll keep ya mind if I find something you can work withSo this month just about marks a couple years that I've been growing. I've been reminiscing on the progress made over the last couple years, especially in terms of understanding genetics. To this point I've been focusing on building sample size and understanding how various genetics function, both in growth and on my physiology. Things are going to gradually be shifting more towards refining the unique things that have worked for me on some level to this point, though new stuff will still be dropped as well.
Kubanskiy was one of the first round of seeds that I ever dropped and she's finishing up, likely for the last time. The smoke is nice but the colas are barely thicker than my thumb, don't stretch much so the plant need to veg longer, and the bud structure is, for lack of a better term, awkward. Some strains (or phenos of them, the Lemon OG Kush loser was like that) seem to just stack naturally, most gracefully, and some seem to strain to stack at all.
Kubanskiy tends towards the latter in my experience, unfortunately. Both that and Siberian Haze were flipped in the middle of April so they're coming up on 9 weeks of flower this week. Kubanskiy is billed as an 8-9 week strain so it's already in prime cutting range (likely coming down today), while SH is billed at 10-11 weeks. Whether or not it justifies getting there is another story...
It's difficult to justify saving either with G13 Haze, G13 Hazeplant, Pipatxu, Valencian Haze, Haze x Kali China, etc. around. But as so often seems to be the case with this hobby, the juice has definitely been worth the squeeze. The knowledge juice of growing and working with different genetics and friends made along the way, that is. Shout out to all of the awesome people that have sent beans!
The Blue Power Mango and the Blueberry Amnesias are almost a month younger than the Kalashnikov stuff, are showing more trichome and terpene development, and already have thicker buds. Very excited to blaze those two. Blue Power Mango especially, since Mango is so genetically similar to SSH. It'll be interesting comparing that to strains like Silverfields, one of which should be cut right around the same time as both (roughly a month). BPM and Silverfields will get crossed with Ghash/Hazeplant once winners are found as well but that's, like, all down the road.
Now that the Blue Dream x ON Haze beans have popped, I'm very much hoping for a dude to cross with both itself and the Blueberry Amnesia (likely Zhe Pinch too, but that's another project). There are 6 of them, so hopefully a solid dude or two isn't out of the question.
My love of Blue Dream has never really been a secret, obviously- I've wanted to dive into those genetics and pheno hunt for a while- but the only Blue Dream I've grown has been from HSO (rip) and I let my clone of that go when G13 Haze came along. It was good enough but the smoke was pretty average compared to the Blue Dream I had on the East coast. I'm looking for that super loud cat pee and crazy glue with Boo Berry cereal and frankincense flavor with a high like getting head while drinking Champagne in a hot tub.
If I don't get a dude then I'll go back to the Blueberry drawing board and look for some obscure Blueberry like ESB or Blue Bonic to bring those genetics together.
@Frankster has some decent blue dreams beans that might be worth hunting ? A little more kush in his beans though. Nice product .Exactly! Como siempre, para siempre.
It's like if new, world-class types of wine grapes were invented every year, all over the world. It's not just a rabbit hole, it's a fuckin' wormhole. An all-encompassing, inescapable vortex.
Kubanskiy is up, rinsed, and hanging. Tp take its place, the more mature of the G13 Hazes will get flipped and topped later today. That is, once this last warhead of Heavy Grapefruit mixed with Moonshine Amnesia has worn off to the point where I'm ambulant again. HG is a very, very solid indica.
The first two Afghan females got repotted and their stems bent today. I'm not going to top them as I would usually do because that introduces an unnecessary variable, but I need to manage their height somehow. Once the next four have new homes I'll put the dudes back under 12/12 for pollen collection. To be completely honest, I'm not expecting much besides a decent, solid, stacky indica from this small of a Ghani sample size. I was hoping for roughly double this number of ladies, but germ rate shit happens. I doubt there's a keeper in these 11 or 12 plants, male or female. but I have a feeling there's a fuckin' unicorn to be found among their progeny.
...and I already have G13 Hazeplant pollen!There are two dudes of roughly equal vigor so far, so if there's a winner he's TBD. They're both in the early stages of stretch, so there's a lot to learn and observe.
Regardless, those genetics will definitely get hit to the Ghash keeper, Haze (!), G13 Haze (or haze-less, as it were/is), Bubba Hash (the name for that cross just came to me: Ghazhbhazh!), Pipatxu, and Killer Colombian Lamb (actually the only one of those with any NL/Skunk in it- from C99, two paternal generations ago via Killer Queen) when the time comes. In addition, of course, to working that line further. Maybe also with Diesel Ghash, we'll see how those come along.
Holy shit! I'm sorry, I just saw this when coming to update the thread.I did a search on this thread to see if there was a description of your pollen collection method. Maybe my search criteria sucked (pollen+collect in this thread), but I came up empty. How do you collect your pollen?
Thank you! My male is in a solo cup. It’s a very small plant. I’ve seen two little open sacs on the butcher paper I used underneath the branches themselves, but no visible pollen yet.Holy shit! I'm sorry, I just saw this when coming to update the thread.
I collect the pollen in the tent with all fans off and the doors closed. Preferably that tent is in a room far away from any flowering ladies, and all doors between them are sealed.
In that tent, I:
1. Take a large, clean, smooth piece of paper and fold it in half lengthwise.
2. Tilt over the male and tap along the main stem, with the stem directly over the paper.
3. With a small paintbrush, brush all of the pollen away from the edges of the paper, towards the fold in the center. It'll start accumulating pretty quickly.
4. Gently tilt the pollen into its final container, preferably with silica packs to keep moisture away from the pollen
5. Store that container in another airtight container with silica packs. I'm using an old prescription bottle that's inside a mason jar with many small containers of pollen inside the pill bottle. All of the bottles have silica in them. I think one day for novelty's sake I'll switch to a nice Matryoshka set.
6. Keep that container in an area with a constant cool temperature to keep condensation from forming on the container.
7. Spray the air in and around the tent with a fine mist to kill any stray pollen.
8. Use within 3 months.
HUMIDITY IS THE ENEMY.
When it's babymaking time, I just take some pollen from the container (with a plastic milk cap or something), then take that and the ladies into a sealed room with no fans on. Little bitty paintbrush + milk cap of pollen + healthy white pistils = babies.
Two more (now dead) Hazes turned out to be males, as well as another lady. That's... actually all of them. The final count, 2 Haze ladies, 8 Hazey dudes with two of them being keepers. Normally I'd give them more of a chance to produce, but I can't really justify breeding with any dudes that get 3 feet tall in a tiny pot before showing sex.
That being said, it's actually kind of a relief because it gives me space to drop these Golden Tiger beans. The prospect of 5+ Haze ladies and 2-3 Golden Tiger ladies growing together for the next six months had me a bit nervous space-wise. Now it's a lot easier to cross the Haze keepers with the Golden Tiger and Orient Express keepers.
They'll probably go down tomorrow, in fact. As well as Blowfish [(G13 x Oregon Funk) x (G13 x Blue Dot)] because I will always love G13 crosses.
Gotta mix up another batch of soil tomorrow, too. Fill a few pots that are low, defoliate everything, repot some seedlings, might cut and start revegging the Supreme Lemon keeper, clean everything...
I have painted every pistil on the little female plant with pollen that became obvious to me in a photo with flash. Today there was more. I assume if the pistils turn brown and retreat within 24 hrs I’ve been successful? I don’t know that I’ll be successful collecting enough to send some to someone else. But I’ll try. Thank you for your help. I’m pretty much flying solo on this at this point and I’ve never done it before.Even in a solo cup, that dude should be throwing plenty of pollen. That's what I reveg my keeper males in, actually. It'll be fine, just give it time.
That Supreme Lemon keeper got cut and taken to reveg-land today.
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Yeah. It was just sorta screaming at me to be harvested today, so I obliged. It was really hard to get a good shot of the whole plant, so these will have to do. It's also pretty obvious why it's the keeper. That trichome coverage, how big they are, the top buds that were double the size of her sisters, stretch, and general vigor are outstanding. The lower branches, pollinated by Super Lemon Moon and Interstate Dragon, are revegging now as their seeds finish.
In other news, I defoliated ALL THE THINGS today. Gave the non-flowering ones the neem-glycerin-lacto fermented garlic (that smells like bologna- the awful lunchmeat, not the city) spray as well. Blowfish and Golden Tiger are going to get dropped right after this post, and then everything in the seedling tent is going to get hit with the bologna spray before the lights come on.
I've made some significant strides against the thrips in the last few weeks after letting them get out of control by not hitting them with the neem foliar and the PFR-97 frequently enough. Safer's End-All is good, but not totally effective without the others.
The second Ghani (B1 and B6) went into flower today to take the Supreme Lemon's spot. I didn't top either, but I did beat the shit out of the main stem on them to mitigate any potential stretch.
Yes in 1 or 2 days happens what you say after succesful pollination.I have painted every pistil on the little female plant with pollen that became obvious to me in a photo with flash. Today there was more. I assume if the pistils turn brown and retreat within 24 hrs I’ve been successful? I don’t know that I’ll be successful collecting enough to send some to someone else. But I’ll try. Thank you for your help. I’m pretty much flying solo on this at this point and I’ve never done it before. View attachment 1140080
PKO is on my list for fall indoors.No worries @Poekie ! I was going to say pretty much exactly what you said, haha.
Don't overthink it, it doesn't take a lot of pollen to make a lot of seeds. Be sure to let them mature fully before harvesting.
Blowfish and Golden Tiger are down! I also gave the 4 remaining Shoeshiner plants new homes since all 5 from before have died, either intentionally or unintentionally.
Next drop is going to be PKO, then Lemon Tree x ON Haze. I haven't had any PKO around since December, and I've missed it.
Black Swamp Gas [(Triangle Kush x '88 G13 Hashplant) x (Triangle Kush x SFV)], Wedding Cake x ON Haze, Purple Wreck, and Widowmaker Skunk will be the rest of July's drop.
That was my bad. I’ve been needing some guidance and thankfully, @Kanzeon has provided it.Damn i thought i was on the Forum Breeding Project thread, didnt mean to get into your conversation...
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