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Im not talking about particular study's just them in general...its obvious theres way too much bias...not advanced much...lol...there arent/isn't alot of actual sciencing going on in the canna industry. Yeah you see some coming out. But has any light mfg gone toe to toe like pepsi and coke? I havent seen it! Lol the reasearch they did in the 90's is fucking outdated quit talkin about it....the past has value except for the fact it repeats itself.....parrots!its true that testers can show confirmation bias but these tests the old guys ran were not for a company like you are ranting about. And all the current info matches his published results. Uv, far red, plants in dark, more than one in a pot, veg time, etc. even cannabanoid info has no advanced much from what is in his books
they also were the ones who started crossing plants for more potency. And we wouldnt have medical weed without those old cannabis scientists.
And there are a couple phd’s in my family. They happen to be smart enough to know when they dont know. And dont go ranting about it. ;-)
Timber cobbs are just that an overly priced diy shit show!And that Timber cob is one ugly duckling, that heatsink looks like it gets CNN.
Well - I'm having amazing results with the SF2000 & SF1000. Used to use the old HPS & MH but the heat and noise from the extraction fans, ducts everywhere just a mess. These are low profile and effective so far.Uuggh...unfollowing. What a snooze fest. Everyone knows LEDs suck ass and are highly over rated. The only people that start these threads are the people that are making them and trying to sell them.
Well - I'm having amazing results with the SF2000 & SF1000. Used to use the old HPS & MH but the heat and noise from the extraction fans, ducts everywhere just a mess. These are low profile and effective so far.View attachment 1097585
So you're in denial or spent serious $$ on the old stufftypical led customer
Im not talking about particular study's just them in general...its obvious theres way too much bias...not advanced much...lol...there arent/isn't alot of actual sciencing going on in the canna industry. Yeah you see some coming out. But has any light mfg gone toe to toe like pepsi and coke? I havent seen it! Lol the reasearch they did in the 90's is fucking outdated quit talkin about it....the past has value except for the fact it repeats itself.....parrots!
But then again capitalism destroys competition and always will! With that said your neighbor could grow healthier weed than you test his and yours and he could not advertise to the public, away from his land, and tell your customers whats in the weed u grow versus his. In other words capitalism has helped unhealthy products onto the market and you cant notify the public about it...there is a way around this......an unaffiliated entity could start a website test all the farms you can and expose them for what they really are...i smell class action lawsuit! Civil lawsuit whatever...
I highly doubt they were the first the cross high potent pot...gtfo! Just sounds fucking stupid..they were crossing powerful pot before america was amerika...lol...you dont think they were breeding high quality pot in the middle east and se asia? Just cuz your history book dont say it doesnt mean they werent doing it...ill bet that master race of people in the middle east over there by the dead sea stole the history and plant from these other folks and made it their own...im not a bitch made sheep...check yourself boi! Gtfo.
So you're in denial or spent serious $$ on the old stuff
Sorry, Could't see the pic. I payed about $300 for the SF2000, figured that the money saved for not having to buy cooling equipment, hoods etc.. could be worth a try. It's so simple this way and working great so farhuh? It was a joke. Its Kitty drinking a pitcher of margaritas to cope with the led buying decision. :-)
i bought top of the line hps stuff years ago for low prices. And even with bulb replacements i still havent paid enough to have purchased a pair of new led lamps of the same quality. Freakin’ things are way overpriced like smart phones.
Timber cobbs are just that an overly priced diy shit show!
For sure, I'm using just a 2 x 4 tent so these light are sufficient for my needs. I live in the south so hot all the time. My main concern is heat control, a lot easier with LED'sthe owner of timber was part of the company that originally re purposed light boards into the quantum board lights today. He says the cobs were consistently better for our purpose and stopped selling boards. Hlg and timber’s owners started this whole full spectrum led industry in threads on another forum.
And timber offers the best price on good bar lights as far as i know. They market those for shorter spaces and cobs for regular spaces.
Its all just a matter of right tool for the job even though sellers will have you believe one is “best”.
Sorry, Could't see the pic. I payed about $300 for the SF2000, figured that the money saved for not having to buy cooling equipment, hoods etc.. could be worth a try. It's so simple this way and working great so far
Well - I'm having amazing results with the SF2000 & SF1000. Used to use the old HPS & MH but the heat and noise from the extraction fans, ducts everywhere just a mess. These are low profile and effective so far.View attachment 1097585
They are made in China!! not happy about that. If they were made here they'd be twice the price. They do last for 50K hours so they say!but that lamp is only half of the replacement i would need for only one of my hps kits that cost only $350 with ballast and original bulb.
And for the $600 i can get an hlg and not finance another countries economy. Which is important to me.
Yes, just a thin aluminum board covered in LED's. Very little heatthey look like cookie sheets. :-)
They are made in China!! not happy about that. If they were made here they'd be twice the price. They do last for 50K hours so they say!
I'm gonna try and refrain my self from logging back on but I don't think I have the will power.
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