Yes my friend , pissay!! Dont know about those really, ive had cat-piss before. These are just pissy as i ever had. You can taste the uriny goodness. lol. Reeks alot ! one a little less than other though. Once you load a bowl all you smell after words is the piss on your hands for hours. Piss hangs in the air for awhile too. 8 is berry pissy with a much better structure but not quit as strong but yields not to shabby. worth a couple runs. lol. It generates a faint berry back smell ,but smell and taste like urine too . I swear sometimes it's like I sanded a piss spot on hardwood floor with a hummel drum sander . Shit can light you up . Man i was just thinkin how nice it is not to smell those horrid floors being retired now . Yet i willfully invite such stench in my home...........hum , go figa .lol. Hey ' but being slightly incontinant still i'm thinkin this can work for me. :opps: Depends :D