Lockebox and the SpiderFarmer SF2000

[Lockebox]

I'm putting my detective hat on

Here is a picture of #4 on the bottom of the plant vs the top

The bottom looks much healthier, greener, and less droopy. This tells me it's something to do with either an immobile nutrient deficiency or possibly light intensity? I don't have a par meter but I've already cranked the light down to 60%.

It could also be watering habits still but I've been working on correcting that so I'm not really too sure. If I had to guess, I'd say it's a bunch of things combined.

I'm going to feed the epsom and gypsum probably tonight and I guess turn the sf2000 down to 50% lol. I bet their ppfd numbers are off the charts

 

[bigbagofbuds]

Try using your phone to get a lux reading then you can use an online calculator to guestimate the ppfd.

Ive found the plants take a bit of time to respond to the lower light intensity and that the difference between 100% and 85% is pretty exponential so I wouldnt keep dropping the intensity without trying to get more data points first.

I've never seen light bleaching in person and just didn't think it was a thing you would see in reality until I saw it for the first time today. The modern LEDs are strong but the light intensity drops off really fast with distance and dimming.

Get some numbers which even if they are estimates should help guide you.

I have seen the clawing top leaves from a combo of too much light and too much nitrogen but the leaves never went back to normal after changing light intensity and feeds. It kind of makes it a harder guessing game because of that hahaha. I'm sure you will still get good smoke though

 

[Lockebox]

Try using your phone to get a lux reading then you can use an online calculator to guestimate the ppfd.

Ive found the plants take a bit of time to respond to the lower light intensity and that the difference between 100% and 85% is pretty exponential so I wouldnt keep dropping the intensity without trying to get more data points first.

I've never seen light bleaching in person and just didn't think it was a thing you would see in reality until I saw it for the first time today. The modern LEDs are strong but the light intensity drops off really fast with distance and dimming.

Get some numbers which even if they are estimates should help guide you.

I have seen the clawing top leaves from a combo of too much light and too much nitrogen but the leaves never went back to normal after changing light intensity and feeds. It kind of makes it a harder guessing game because of that hahaha. I'm sure you will still get good smoke though

Boo yah bro you just reminded me about the photone app, my wife got a new phone recently and gave me her old one to use for pictures so I can download it on that and try! Need to find an iphone charger though lol

Yeah I know what you mean, when dealing with something like this it's hard to tell when you've corrected the problem because like you said the unhealthy growth will never revert back.

I will say though, the problem has seemed to have paused rather than getting worse so maybe we're on the right track already?

Right on I'll leave the light at 60%. Despite my extreme desire to not, I will be PH'ing my water from now on starting today. Anywhere between 6 and 7 will work for me. Watering in at 5.9 right now cause I overdid the pH down and the tap tested at 7.3 so I'm sure it will balance fine

 

[Lockebox]

Super crop again, didn't buy me a whole lot but it bought me a little.

 

[Lockebox]

Day 48 of flower.

I messaged the breeder on Instagram and sent him pictures of my plants asking about general flower times. He left me on read lol. I guess I was asking a lot

 

[Lockebox]

Looking less droopy on this Friday night

 

[Lockebox]

Just realized today is the start of week 8. Got a ways to go..

 

[Lockebox]

Looking better every day @SpiderFarmerLED

#1 still trying to figure her out

#2 who's chilling 4" away from the sf2000

#4

This monitor isn't in this tent but the numbers should be relatively close

 

[Lockebox]

Flower, Day 54 with a ways to go yellow leaves indicate potency...

I could be totally incorrect but I think #2 is growing more like it's bubba lineage and #4 is growing more like the og lineage. I've got no idea on #1 lol she didn't get any pics taken..
#2

#4

I'll be watering all 3 tonight and recently got some buildasoil worm castings, would y'all recommend topdressing some or hold off? I think it would be great because they're supposed to be rich in magnesium and calcium as well as the other goodies I've just heard conflicting things about worm castings in Bloom @Shaded_One @bigbagofbuds

 

[Shaded_One]

I wouldn't go around tossing in EWC at this phase but you could if you really wanted to. Save em for the next grow and get that microbial life going from the start :)

 

[Lockebox]

I wouldn't go around tossing in EWC at this phase but you could if you really wanted to. Save em for the next grow and get that microbial life going from the start :)

Okay thanks man! Yeah I Topdressed my vegging plants with some last night but I had a feeling I should ask before applying to the flowering plants. Thanks for all the help along the way my dude! Hopefully I'll quit needing it soon haha

 

[bigbagofbuds]

Flower, Day 54 with a ways to go yellow leaves indicate potency...
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I could be totally incorrect but I think #2 is growing more like it's bubba lineage and #4 is growing more like the og lineage. I've got no idea on #1 lol she didn't get any pics taken..
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I'll be watering all 3 tonight and recently got some buildasoil worm castings, would y'all recommend topdressing some or hold off? I think it would be great because they're supposed to be rich in magnesium and calcium as well as the other goodies I've just heard conflicting things about worm castings in Bloom @Shaded_One @bigbagofbuds

I wouldn't go around tossing in EWC at this phase but you could if you really wanted to. Save em for the next grow and get that microbial life going from the start :)

Okay thanks man! Yeah I Topdressed my vegging plants with some last night but I had a feeling I should ask before applying to the flowering plants. Thanks for all the help along the way my dude! Hopefully I'll quit needing it soon haha

I agree on holding off, the leaves aren't pretty but will hopefully ease up soon. If only flowering was as easy as veg hahaha. Your plants are starting to get thick!

 

[Lockebox]

I agree on holding off, the leaves aren't pretty but will hopefully ease up soon. If only flowering was as easy as veg hahaha. Your plants are starting to get thick!

I know haha, I can keep em green in veg! Thankfully though, I think I have a good idea of what I need to do moving forward. Between adjusting the pH and letting the soil dry a lot more than I thought I should, the plants seem much healthier. And hell yeah thanks! Except #1, I don't really take pics of her cause she's larf even up top lol

 

[Lockebox]

Week 9 of flower.

crappy pic but #4 is my favorite. They all smell pretty good though, I don't even know how to describe it honestly. They all smell pretty similar but #4 just has that extra OOOF to it haha.
Looks like I might have a 12 week or more variety on my hands. Fine by me, I'm not in any rush. I will be moving sometime though In the next couple months, not sure when, so life might happen

 

[SSgrower]

Oh yeah, the 2 sf1000s ought to rock that 3x3! 200 watts does great imo in 8 ft², surely 1 ft² difference will be hardly noticable! Plus with 2 lights you can probably get a really great coverage instead of slacking off in the corners

Man I need a new 3x3, then I can turn my two 2x4s into veg/ mom tents with a 3x3 flower tent

If you can fit a 4x4 or 5x5 do it! I have never regretted getting my Viparspectra 4x4. Cheers SS

 

[bigbagofbuds]

If you can fit a 4x4 or 5x5 do it! I have never regretted getting my Viparspectra 4x4. Cheers SS

I have a 3x3 and 2 2x4 tents. I havent used a 4x4 but Ive seen many with the extra side doors which alleviates a lot of the problem with the 3x3 where its hard to get into the back when the plants are in heavy flower. Just keep that in mind when you go to upgrade.

Plants are looking good! Excited to see them when they fully fill out!

 

[SpiderFarmerLED]

Looking better every day @SpiderFarmerLED View attachment 1315902View attachment 1315900
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[Lockebox]

Chugging along under the sf2000. In the middle of week 9, patiently watching lol.

Fed all, 1 tbsp Epsom and 1 tbsp gypsum each. May try to ride the rest out on water only. Debating a final Bloom feed though

#1 looks the closest to finish but on the downside, I've never seen bud structure like hers. The lowers are like single calyx's strung together and look almost like more work than it's work to smoke.. probably my fault though honestly with the early on overwatering

#2 smelling great, getting frosty

#4 smelling even better

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

Hell yeah man, a few more weeks and you’ll be in trim jail that one in the back looks like a Christmas tree! You’ve learned a lot from this grow man, and excited to see the next ones!

 

[Lockebox]

Hell yeah man, a few more weeks and you’ll be in trim jail that one in the back looks like a Christmas tree! You’ve learned a lot from this grow man, and excited to see the next ones!

I appreciate that dude! I definitely learned from error this go around, nothing new

I'm excited to see how the next grow goes pHing the water and being more mindful of overwatering from the jump.
My last good Green grow was synthetic or my 20 gallon outside organic plants. My recent grows have probably been much more potent but yellow and brown leafs hurt my soul