Yes sir...8" AMS. It's not made for the STI, the intercooler is stock, but we had to fab up all the connections.
It was...sigh, I loved that car. But sadly, I have a seizure disorder that is hard to control. I've had 4 seizures while driving. If I had a seizure while driving that car, I'm not going to walk away. It's a 9 second car.
I would make it out of PVC if I had a bunch of PVC laying around, but I don't. Plenty of copper & pex lol, but no PVC.
But i could build that frame just as fast as a PVC one. Same tools, plus I have nail guns. But the reason it's wood is just because I had 2x4 laying around, no other reason. For me, it's staying where it is, so the weight doesn't matter. Plus with the width I tried, I knew I was going to need to be able to stand on it. Next run, I'm going to make it 42" or so instead of 60".
Whenever I'm involved buddy, there is always whispers of "stud" ;)
No, because in the original post he wanted to make 5'x5's, & I said, with the layout he/she has, I would make several long scrogs. He has room to walk down all the aisles, so just make long thin ones. He said 3'x3' trays. I can see at least 6 of them, which = 18 ft. They don't actually look square, but I'm assuming he is accounting for the space in between. No PVC (single or two 9'ers) is going to span 18' without some intermittent T fittings to accommodate PVC "studs." 6' starts to get floppy, 18' will droop like an elderly testicle (how's that for an image lol) This is the best way to explain what I mean...
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I don't know how much the OP knows about construction. So if he followed my advice & just made several long PVC frames, & if
is 16' - 18' or so, he will need support studs. If his top rail is like the picture above (blue arrow) he is going to need support studs below it (yellow arrows). A few simple T fittings on the bottom & top rail & it will be nice & sturdy. That's all. Unless you plan on standing on it, a 2x4 will span a much larger length.
If he is going to keep it at 5' he wouldn't need those.
Agreed. I meant if the span is large. But I
prefer a single unit. E.g. Mine is 5'x10'. So I could have just made two 5'x5's, but then I have two pieces of structure running right down the middle of the scrog. That's prime real estate. Even if it's only blocking 3" x 60", that's just about 1.3 ft2 of prime real estate. If I can help it, I'm not going to lose 180", right in the middle of the space. It's not the end of the world, but it's less than ideal.
Construction speed would be a wash. In my case, anyway, if you were using those ratchet cutters, tapping the top rail, putting all the screws in it, tying the string etc. It's a plain table design on a level surface. I just cut all all the pieces, I have a nail gun, then just staple the trellis on (advantage to wood). It's just what you are used to, or setup to work with. If you don't have construction equipment, PVC is cheaper, lighter, simpler.
@sedate I have no problem with PVC. I think PVC is the better option, it's just not what I had laying around. The little bit I did have, I ended up using to plumb the feed lines.
OP, this is pretty much correct^^. Including the corner pieces etc, you should be well under $50 per structure. I'm not sure where you got an estimate for $5k for parts. Maybe it's a typo? But that is a lot of friggin PVC dude lol. You can use this to give you an idea on price
http://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Pipes-Fittings-PVC-Pipe-Fittings/N-5yc1vZbuf5
If you have a chop saw it will save you a lot of time/aggravation over the ratchet cutters.
That design is more than stable enough for it's purpose there. But if he is going to be making a longer one, it's going to need to be designed a little bit different. The length of it would just need several T fittings to put in some PVC studs like the picture I put up.
Nice job on those brother. Super clean looking.
OP, once you build it, & I kind of described how you train for it, you should have many of these...which is where most of your production will come from. I can't even fit the whole length in the picture. I showed you above what they looked like before I flipped. But because of vegging & topping the way I do, once you get above the scrog, it looks more like a sog grow. These stalks like you see below, are about 36" long, & there are couple hundred of them. That's bascially the outcome you are shooting for. What you see below, in the end, will be all bud. It makes trimming much easier as well, as you have fewer "small bud" branches to deal with.
This is day 28
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