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Well maybe NOOBS should be tryin to supply clubs, patients or co-ops with clones UNTIL he KNOWs wtf hes doing....just my opinion....bro not tryin to start shit...
And YOUR the clone supllier!!!! i feel bad foir them patients and coops
Well maybe NOOBS should be tryin to supply clubs, patients or co-ops with clones UNTIL he KNOWs wtf hes doing....just my opinion....bro not tryin to start shit...
yeah real shit i agree i do not look for shit either but i just feel like we need to embrace new growers and their enthusiasm and maybe tell him to pump their brakes when they get ahead of their self but dogging him or making him feel inferior or stupid just has no benefit IMO besides making others laugh at his expense.
growing takes at least 3 months, cloning takes under 3 weeks. you can practice many more times on cloning until you get it right and then be able to provide them to clubs. if you clone perpetual like every week within 10 weeks you have probably cloned 10 different times and tried many different ways. by that point you should be really comfortable and good at cloning. if you were trying to grow in that amount of time you would not even have had a single harvest and that harvest would probably not be of club quality.
1) Plants wilt like normal, but seem to break right in the rapid rooters and never grow back
2) some of the clones just disintigrate. i have no idea why. the just get light green, fall over and when you tought the stock it just falls apart like mush. (around day 5)You got shit too wet bro, media wise. Getting some rot, etc. To dry a clone, the stem goes rigid with the growth tip bending over 180 degrees. To wet and the stem turns too mush, especially below the media. Continual spraying with nutes can exacerbate this problem.
Did I mention to chill the fuck out with your spraying? ;)
3) of the clones that DO live they have been super light green and yellow at leave edges
Couple things about this. Firstly, the rapid rooters. The tray I posted has a 72 cell tray and I using the RR sheet of 98, versus the round, larger plugs that come in the bags of 50, but same diff. After I cut the sheet up I soak them in a Clonex solution. Squeeze the plugs like a sponge.
Viola! Instant rapid rooter with nutes. I also give them a spray with DM Penatrator and whatever cloning nute I have around when I first load the tray, but that is it. People do spray more, but you have too much moisture going on, so you are hurting yourself. Spray when you load the tray and then no more. Last thing is cut the leaves. Butcher dem beotches. Two reasons. Less foilage to compound your MSS (Mushy Stem Syndrome). Secondly, you will get a little less yellowing.
4) our rapid rooters are moist on top but bone dry on bottom ... we DONT put any water in the bottom of the trays below the clones, maybe thats an issue? and the temp does get a little high sometimes
Yes. Put water in the bottom of the tray. Humidity for the bottom of your rooters. Water is a must if you use a heating mat.
Helathy mothers and proper environment.
Constructive criticism is much more beneficial than insults to all parties involved. For one it makes you look like an ass and makes the insulted look silly, not helpful at all. I typically would not even involve myself in this type of situation but i feel that maybe if enough people let you all know how unsympathetic you sound then maybe you would take the time to think before you speak/type. (WE ARE ALL HERE LEARNING RIGHT?) there is no need to bash others for seeking information. (the only stupid question is the one that has not been asked)<<<3rd grade i learned that.
So with that said here is how i take clones with great success for many years now:
you will need rockwool cubes 1x1 unwraped, olivias cloning solution, dip and grow, propigation trays w/ lids, 1 mister bottle, ph down, base nutrients, heating mat, t5 or fluorescent lighting, razor blades, ph meter/test drops and patience.
1: soak cubes in a solution of 3/4 cup of olivias and 1/4 strength base nutes @ a ph of 5.0. (the acidity will help with rockwool, ORANGE if you just have a test kit)
2:arange the cubes so that there are 40 in a standard propigation tray.
3:mix the dip and grow for woody cuttings. (may seem strong but it works well)
4:take cuttings from the tops of branches (and on down if needed) as big or small as you desire (no 3 ft. cuttings wont fit man!) 2-6 in. will do.
5:bunch the top of the cutting up a bit and cut off 1/2 of the leaf (careful not to cut the terminal bud) and any water leaves or branches below the top two internodes.
6:dip the cutting 1 in. into the dip and grow and stir for 10 sec.
7:stick the cutting into the rockwool and gently squeeze the wool around it. (pushing down on the top of the cube if needed)
8:mist with pure r/o water every 10-15 cuttings to keep them hydrated.
9:cover with humidome. (close the vents)
10:remove humidome and mist 1 time per day for the first 48 hours (thats 2 days...lol) with pure r/o water
11:make sure cubes never dry out. Water every other day or as needed (with the same solution used in pre soak @ a ph of 5.6)
12:remove humidome and air out trays every day for a min. or so (if leaves start to yellow it is too humid open vents or prop up tray lids a bit now)
13:If things are going good at around day 7-10 you will notice the stems/stalks of the clone swelling and splitting and the leaves may start to yellow a bit (feeding on themselfs)
14:at this point you are almost there and may even have a few rooting out the cube. Prop the lids a bit and pay attn. to how hydrated they are you may need to mist them with 1/4 strength base nutes to give them the energy they need to become plants! (if you see them drooping MIST THEM!!!!)
15:at around day 10-14 depending on the strain ofcoarse you will have clones showing roots. I find that it is less stressful to transplant them at this point rather than waiting for full on root development to do so. Seeing as you are letting go of them and not flowering them out i would sudgest letting them go untill they have a visable root structure befor distribution. However i would also sudgest giving them a mist or two while acclimating to the less humid enviroment of the world. (without the dome on them after day 10-14)
My rules of cloning: Never leave standing water in trays, (i cut small hole in the bottom of trays for proper drainage) air out every day, remove any underachieving or sick (moldy) cuttings, always wash hands after using the restroom, never rush a clone job and a heating mat is a good thing.
There are many ways people make clones of there favorite plant but this is my way and it works great for me. I hope my words have helped in some small fashion.
I wish you all the success you desire my friend and i hope i have been at least a bit helpful.
P.s. hope your pumping strains from THCBAY to the clubs, most of them could use some real genetics and dont forget to label them correctly the breeders deserve their credit they have earned it.
Farmer Jon
and i kno my set up looks week sauce fr now, but im getting another light soon, and those mothers are only 2 1/2 weeks old from the worlds smallest clones lol..
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