caregiverken
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Cap; I strongly disagree with that statement. I know you were exaggerating.And nobody really addressed the issue that 99% of people who go in to dispensaries aren't sick at all. :troll:
i bet it doesnt cost 700 for an ipad either.
or 40K for a car
or 3.80 for a gallon of gas
there is markup SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE DUDE. everyone does shit for free? you need to eat, support your family, try and have maybe enough to ENJOY LIFE
fuck what should a charity just sit there and let other people get meds of the sweat of their back? sorry to say but it IS survival of the fittest. while medications will help keep you fit, life isnt a fuckin charity ride dude
Cap; I strongly disagree with that statement. I know you were exaggerating.
Probably more like 75% May not have physical ailments, But.
I think many people, like myself, are thought of as Recreational users
.but Weed helps me cope with life's BS...:D
It makes me feel better!! ok?o_O
and Weed is a Preventative medicine too!
So, watch who you are calling a Recreational User! ;) Hard to know what folks are dealing with
I hate to say it Ken but unfortunately Cap is right. I've managed 5 dispensaries across two states and 95+% of patients are totally full of shit. I've scanned the paperwork and dealt with the "patients" face to face for years. They're mostly 20 something stoners with "pain" or "trouble sleeping" who just want the best deal they can get and whatever free shit you're willing to throw at 'em. Out of the thousands I've "patients" I've seen and dealt with face to face only 3 were terminal and received free "meds".
Lets call a spade a spade here. If you are human and have $100 you can become a "patient" in CA. When I moved back to CA from CO I actually got a rec with a CO drivers license, $180, zero paperwork, zero proof of residency and "my back hurts". It was almost as easy in CO. It's a joke man. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the loosely written law (as do most of the people with rec's in CA). I just think it's a bit silly when people jump on the "medical" thing and think it should all be cheaper of free because ALL these poor patient are SO sick. I got into this as an activist and patient advocate but after just a couple months behind the counter at a disp you see through all the bullshit and see it for what it really is...a loophole for recreational use that most people are taking advantage of. I have no problem with this whatsoever but growers and even the evil dispensary owners gotta eat and pay the bills too.
I hear where you're coming from man and I agree with it except for the percentage. This post was not entirely directed at you. Just wanted to touch on a few things in this thread. :D
Just my .02 ;)
Lets call a spade a spade here. If you are human and have $100 you can become a "patient" in CA.
I hear where you're coming from man and I agree with it except for the percentage. This post was not entirely directed at you. Just wanted to touch on a few things in this thread. :D
Just my .02 ;)
Sounds like most patients perspective ....give it to me FREE its only a plant and your making sooooooo much money on it...WTF electricity, water ,soil ,labor, fertilizer,time, time , time , experience takes yrs...equipment, new 100.00 bulbs every 6 months ,stakes,pots...more good beans ( not the freebies in that old bag of mexican shit) high cbd beans which how much research went into that .,,,testing ... Of course u could throw it outside and see what you get ,,,bugs, chemicals, now how medical is that? Of course if your a seasoned grower your using the proper gear inside or out ,proper beans ,and of course the right organic ferts as to not continue making someone sick ... Too many fantastic growers on this site with yrs of experience they should be getting a 1000 an ounce just for the knowledge. A Growers Perspective MedusaI don't think everyone who goes in business is in it soley for money, but if they wern't it would be a charity org not a business. Business is for making profit.
If your paying money for a product it shouldn't have a such a high mark up right?
Especially if it's a plant. Everyother plant on this earth doesn't have such a high price. fruits,vegetables, grains,etc. where do you find those things at $200-$300 an ounce?Water the most important thing for survival (next to air ..which is also free) is low cost.Those two things which is necessary for life are so cheap cause their in such high abundunce. Thats what we need for Marijuana.
But hopefully we can get legalization and that would bring the dispensary prices down. If Marijuana becomes so plentiful that you can find it growing in peoples backyards or in farmers markets or even the produce store I doubt youd see it selling at $200-$300 an ounce.
Sounds like most patients perspective ....give it to me FREE its only a plant and your making sooooooo much money on it...WTF electricity, water ,soil ,labor, fertilizer,time, time , time , experience takes yrs...equipment, new 100.00 bulbs every 6 months ,stakes,pots...more good beans ( not the freebies in that old bag of mexican shit) high cbd beans which how much research went into that .,,,testing ... Of course u could throw it outside and see what you get ,,,bugs, chemicals, now how medical is that? Of course if your a seasoned grower your using the proper gear inside or out ,proper beans ,and of course the right organic ferts as to not continue making someone sick ... Too many fantastic growers on this site with yrs of experience they should be getting a 1000 an ounce just for the knowledge. A Growers Perspective Medusa
LOL..I like That! ^^^.It's not a super secret society where knowledge of growing marijuana is passed down from the elders,lol You could learn this by your own experience through trial and error..
The majoirty of sick patients I have seen don't even go to dispensaries because they cant afford it, Maybe themajority of the ones who can afford it aren't really sick and have full time jobs. I'm talking about veterans on a fixed income or disabled folks on a fixed income. Thats why we have designated growers for those who can't afford. Maybe the people we meet are in different settings, you had a business so the people you see are the ones with money, the ones I seen can't even afford a few grams. which is probably why you believe whatyou do and I believe what I do. Our experiences are different. I have had to go and get my card at the doctors office and I seen a few that look like they just wanna get stoned but I have seen A lot of folks that just can't afford. I have been in states where we have held fundraisers to help patients get their cards.
But for a business man to show compassion is a hard thing...which is why more people I think voted for opbama rather than Romney. Romney is a business manwitha business mind. He aint gonna wanna help the poor, They say things likethe poor are lazy or" full of shit" like how you said. Of course now the states are seeing this as a business and are charging more for cards and just giving cards away to those who can afford it. The medical Marijuana department is one of the few departments that actually bring IN money for the state, in the DHS. WIC,Foodstamps,Medical,etc etc those are money going out.Everyone with a business mind is seeing this as an oppurtunity to get rich.
Of course people with a business gotta eat.... just as People on disability or fixed incomes gotta eat too. So thats why we push for either total legalization or for cultivation rights so people like me can growfor ourselevs and for those who cant afford the dispensry high prices.
Hahaha wait...WTF? Did you just call me a business owner, a republican AND twist my words to make it seem as though I said "the poor and lazy are full of shit"? Chill out on the Faux News. You want to point political fingers then don't put spin on facts. All 3 of those accusations are false.
I stated facts from years of dealing with people trying to get over on me in the disps. I have never in my life been taken advantage of more so than working in a disp. I spent years in those shops, breaking federal law, waiting to get raided or robbed at any moment only to help as many legit people as I could while on a humble salary. I've helped hundreds of "poor, lazy" people "like how you said" with discounted or free meds whenever I could. Actually, I got fired from a dispensary for giving free meds to a terminal patient who died shortly after.
There are very affordable (poor quality) but affordable meds for "patients" in any price bracket at most disps. Unfortunately some lower income patients to try to hustle the OG off the top shelf for peanuts though.o_O Do you think people go into McDonald's and try to get Big Macks for cheap or free because they're hungry? Do people on a budget go into a liquor store and try to haggle on the price of top shelf single malt scotch or just walk in and go straight for the High Life? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
This IS a business weather you like it or not. Don't shoot the messenger...
Did I say "delae632 is a Businessman and a Republican"? lol if my words of "you" it would be as in the discussion were having if you were infact running a dispensary. Sorry if its confusing.
lol no fox news here, infact I dont even own a TV. I don't watch TV. I have internet that I read about news and stuff. I can only afford internet, no way I can afford cable, I wouldnt want it either. Been living without a TV since 2007. If I see stuff on TV its if I am out somewhere or at someones house.
People keep saying "free" I know I'm not talking about getting free meds. What I am talking about is fair pricing. I hope nobody thinks I'm Demanding free meds,lol or demanding that you have to be compassionate towards sick people. i'm saying "Fair". The only free thing I was talking about was me myself giving away free meds. Other people chimed in that they also have given lots of free meds away. I like that, you don't like that? You don't think its a great thing when people give to those in need?
McDonalds wouldn't be in business if they gave free food away to everyone, nobody would, Imagine if dispensaries had ownership of McDonalds and they did the pricing Here is a Top Shelf Big Mac, we're selling at just $10 a gram we got the mids too- yesterdays Bigmac's we selling this one at$5 a gram.... you only have $10? okay, I give you two grams of yesterdays Bigmac....still hungry? Too bad, I gotta eat too.Go grow your own veggies and raise your cattle make your own burgers.You don't know all the stuff that goes into making this burger, I gotta raise the cows and grow the veggies and My time for flipping the burgers and I gotta pay the rent and utilities for this place. Thats why The Bigmac OG is $70
But serioulsy, you are right it is a business and maybe thats why I may have been refrencing about a "business man" with you, you sound kinda like Romney, no offense.lol But I was thinking you might have ended your sentence with "corporations are people too"
Hey Cindy; Delae has been a well loved member here a long time. Dont mess with him! :)
Thank you for the reminder caregiverken, I guess sometimes my oddball ways and passion for helping get a little too much of me and at times I need to remember to be nice. I truly am sorry for being a jerk to everyone and derailing the thread. It really is a nice discussion. Delae, I am sorry for misquoting you and spinning you around. Sometimes I jumble my replies into one and I direct all my responses to one person.Also to everyone else who is in this discussion. It was wrong of me to do so. I am sorry.
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