Mimed’s Perpetual Thread

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

cemchris said:
I feel for you man. It's a shitty thing to deal with.

like i said. I got away with no pests for a long time. Now i have to be a real grower. Put in my work so to speak.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

chemistry said:
Root Aphids have a weakness in that the adults need to fly round just above the soil to attract a mate, this makes them fools for yellow sticky cards, knock off the adults, and there's no grubs. What I do when I grow in pots is cut a hole in the sticky card and cut a slit to the hole, and just place it round the trunk of the plants, always seems to control them, just don't start counting what's on the cards, it's very addictive. lol

I think the cards and microbe lift i use may have slowed them down for a long time. I thought i only had gnats but the mag deficiency kept getting worse. And tonight they little white crawlers were all over the pot on the plant i watered. At least now i am sure.

Tomorrow i have a plant in veg to transplant. I can get a good look and see if the veg tent is also infected. And my half full bin of pro mix.

chemistry · Jul 7, 2020

Funny thing, on my last run I watched a male thrip land on a female that was stuck to a yellow card, he thought his luck was in, until he got stuck too. Was hoping to wake up the next day to see an orgy taking place. Not a lot of help I know, but it cheered me up. lol

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

chemistry said:
Funny thing, on my last run I watched a male thrip land on a female that was stuck to a yellow card, he thought his luck was in, until he got stuck too. Was hoping to wake up the next day to see an orgy taking place. Not a lot of help I know, but it cheered me up. lol

Lol

And on the down side there is a root aphid flier on the sticky card in the veg tent. One flier. But im sure the eggs are laid.

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

MIMedGrower said:
@Dirtbag you around?

Yeah man, been taking a break from the forum for the last couple weeks.

Sorry to hear about the RA diagnosis dude, that explains a lot though.

Tough issue to tackle in a perpetual setup. But I think an aggressive botanigard treatment would be the place to start. If that fails, Imidacloprid is your friend.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Dirtbag said:
Yeah man, been taking a break from the forum for the last couple weeks.

Sorry to hear about the RA diagnosis dude, that explains a lot though.

Tough issue to tackle in a perpetual setup. But I think an aggressive botanigard treatment would be the place to start. If that fails, Imidacloprid is your friend.

Can botaniguard be used on flowering plants?

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

MIMedGrower said:
Can botaniguard be used on flowering plants?

You bet. It's one of the few things I'd use on plants in flower. You need to use 2x the standard label rate for root aphids. A few applications 5-7 days apart.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Dirtbag said:
You bet. It's one of the few things I'd use on plants in flower. You need to use 2x the standard label rate for root aphids. A few applications 5-7 days apart.

Cool. Thanks. Im still going to destroy all the plants that are not ready in the next couple weeks. I dont want to move infested plants to the new space. Im sure that there will be eggs layed hidden in the floor boards or walls of my old not very sealed converted bedroom. And i guess i should trash the remaining pro mix in my bin too. I transplanted over it every time with the soil exposed.

Then hydrogen peroxide for the ripening flowers to harvest something while i rebuild.

But if they show up in the new tent grow i know what to do.

What a bitch. Already cost me thousands. I cant believe they stayed pretty much invisible to me all this time.

What is sure to kill them off in the emptied rooms when i clear them?

How to clean properly?

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Maybe half yield but the flowers on the OG Kush x Trainwreck are looking and smelling real nice.

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

They are a bitch big time. I had the same experience, multiple phantom deficiencies for several grows, I was blaming everything from bad nutrients to just thinking I'd lost my green thumb lol.

For cleaning walls and floors etc I used bleach. As insurance I'd run imidacloprid on all new vegging plants for a month or two, that way even if you get eggs hatching the imid will wipe out any aphids long enough that they wont be able to re-establish. I think it will be tough to beat them without a hard reset and then some harsh preventative IPM treatments for a little while, ideally with a nuke for RA's.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Dirtbag said:
They are a bitch big time. I had the same experience, multiple phantom deficiencies for several grows, I was blaming everything from bad nutrients to just thinking I'd lost my green thumb lol.

For cleaning walls and floors etc I used bleach. As insurance I'd run imidacloprid on all new vegging plants for a month or two, that way even if you get eggs hatching the imid will wipe out any aphids long enough that they wont be able to re-establish. I think it will be tough to beat them without a hard reset and then some harsh preventative IPM treatments for a little while, ideally with a nuke for RA's.

Got it. Thank you.

Think azamax would be sufficient alternative to Imidacloprid?

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

MIMedGrower said:
Got it. Thank you.

Think azamax would be sufficient alternative to Imidacloprid?

Short answer, not really. Azamax and botanigard alternated might be able to knock them way back and possibly erradicate them eventually, maybe. But Imid used properly will 100% end the war, guaranteed, and it will have no negative affect on crop quality. I just like assured outcomes. And when it comes to a pest as persistent as the root aphid,... I personally wouldnt take chances.
But that's me.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Dirtbag said:
Short answer, not really. Azamax and botanigard alternated might be able to knock them way back and possibly erradicate them eventually, maybe. But Imid used properly will 100% end the war, guaranteed, and it will have no negative affect on crop quality. I just like assured outcomes. And when it comes to a pest as persistent as the root aphid,... I personally wouldnt take chances.
But that's me.

Thanks again.

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

FWIW, regular nicotine is about 9x more toxic than synthetic neonicotinoids. But that doesnt stop me from smoking ciggies...

I'm sure you know this but for anyone who reads it and interprets it backwards, with an LD50, the smaller the number it has, the more toxic it is.

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Well here is whats left from my 12 plant perpetual grow.

3 plants all should be finished in 2 more weeks.

Blue Lemon Thai

Chocolate Diesel

OG Kush x Trainwreck

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

All 3 have been saturated and bubbled up real good with H202 3%

Man throwing away all those plants hurt. I had done a good job with the promix and dyna gro. I will likely grow the new harvest the same way. The plants were bigger and branchier than ever with foliage pro and protekt only.

Now to start breaking down and cleaning up. :-(

Beachwalker · Jul 7, 2020

Wow this has been going on a long time!! sorry this happened to you man but at least now you know what it is, holy shit this issue goes back into last year!!

MIMedGrower · Jul 7, 2020

Beachwalker said:
Wow this has been going on a long time!! sorry this happened to you man but at least now you know what it is, holy shit this issue goes back into last year!!

Yup. From 2 bags of soil that are long gone. A few growers told me i had them just from seeing the plants quite a while ago. But i never confirmed there were root aphids. This heat wave helped them along i guess.

This is my chance to grow my plants all together this time. I have wanted to switch to full room harvests for a long time. I am pretry sure i have 8 BLT seeds to get started.

And i can grow all the regular seeds i have acquired.

Aqua Man · Jul 7, 2020

Head high bro it's devistating but you now have a solution and a means to an end. Can get back to growing some fat juicy buds with no issues. I feel for you bro but at the same time I'm happy it's going to be fixed.

Dirtbag · Jul 7, 2020

This sort of bullshit happens to every grower that grows for long enough. All you can do is deal with it and move on. And you will be wiser for it.

Honestly the best way to learn about pests is dealing with them, as shitty as it is.

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