Mitt Romney on Medical Marijuana

[Bluenote]

Do we *really* want to "go there". Do I really need to open this can of worms as regards Ron Paul?

I'm tired of hearing the " oh the media is vilifying the man" as an excuse.He's another hog trough feeding Beltway politico.........care to examine his purported stand against earmarks? Hows about bills he attached earmarks too and then voted against knowing full well that they'd fail?

Yup 24 years of oink and slop from the 14th congressional district of Texas.

And Freedom and Liberty "for the people" , except when it comes to womens wombs , 'eh?

And of course right off the jump the much overused Paulista accusation of " you haven't done your research".........guess you missed where I stated that I was originally from Texas , and last I looked Chambers County is still in his district. Naaaahhh I don't know anything about Ron Paul uh uh.

He's another hogtrough feeding Yankee jackass masquerading as a Texan , just like the BushLeagues , not that the home grown variety like Perry are any better.

Last politico that made any kind of difference from Texas and that had any balls to speak of was Anne Richards , hell Kinky Friedman has more potential than Paul or Perry.


I'll vote for a rock before I'd vote for a single one of the current hogtrough feeding , control freak waste of protoplasm and oxygen clowns we've now got and that's on *either* side of the aisle , teats on a boar are truly more useful than the bunch we have in office now or the bunch that's running for a yet higher office.

First two rules of politics.

1. Get elected and get the power.

2. Get re-elected and keep the power.

 

[kolah]

Presidental power is a farce. The Wizard of Oz behind the curtains runs the big show.

 

[Bluenote]

Presidental power is a farce. The Wizard of Oz behind the curtains runs the big show.

Plus about a billion , politicians are bought and paid for prior to ever getting elected.........

 

[Bluenote]

Siggh , well some folks get the whole thing , Tre gets it , a few others. Open your eyes folks , SEE. For crying out loud the dance and it's ending are ALREADY freaking scripted..............


WHat happened with the French...Will folks continue to be lulled by

Bread

And

Circus's



in an effort to keep us all entertained and complacent.


NBA ,NFL , MLBA , NASCAR , NHL , CBS ,CNN , FOX ,ABC , NBC , BBC , CBC
,TBN ....................mindless motherf***ing alphabet soup Soma For The Masses . keep 'em entertained and complacent , weed out the dissenters.

March rabidly behind candidated whose actual realistic differences are the colors of their ties , CNN says RED Tie is the enemy today , he's bad , Blue Tie is The Only Rational Choice............today. Because they said so.

 

[sanvanalona]

Do you have an answer as to how to deal with the problems you propose? No news or political party should be trusted so what should the populous do?

 

[kushdoctor]

Not really sure how Romny views it but I'm an independent whom regretting now voted for Obama :/ I've recently been exposed to a lot of fox news and I'm surprised to see the right doesn't really look bad on mmj. John stossil raves about how its great for Americans in every way . Even Bill o'riley is pretty sown with it ! And look at Arizona ,New Mexico ! Some red states now on board with mmj. I think the conservative / tea party smaller government idea . Would be fiscally more responsible, and leave it more up to the states to regulate thier own marijauna laws !

 

[squiggly]

If you want to know what will happen--read a history book. God damnit if it couldn't be any clearer.

The party of family values, who is essentially owned by pharmaceutical companies, has NO INTEREST in allowing you to grow a headache, stomachace, anxiety, cancer medicine in your back yard.

The absolute best case scenario if they are running the show is the complete pharmaceutical industry takeover of MMJ.

Worst case scenario would be what Nixon did in the first place--independent, republican or democrat, let's not forget why we're in this situation. Because Christians have this thing where they believe they know what's best for everyone--and that for some reason that lines up perfectly with the bible and has this lofty self-presumed moral high ground.

If you love Jesus and hate weed--go nuts voting for this dude.

This whole entire shit-show began because Republican's thought that their plan for everyone was better than everyone's plan for themselves. 50 years may have passed since then but THEY STILL CATEGORICALLY BELIEVE THIS.

Not only that, but they will tell it to your face--it's not even a masquerade, we're just letting them do it
Now I'm not big on being told what to do--I supposed I'd just figured that fellow MJ activists would feel the same way. We're here because ignorant and ill-informed men let some much more intelligent and devious men drive the boat.

Let's not sit idly by and watch more of our rights be usurped in the interest of some vague and unattainable morality.

 

[fishwhistle]

I dont think it matters what party you support the fact is the older reefer madness generation is dying out and the younger folks are more tolerant of MJ,if it came to a vote today i beleive legalization or decriminilazation,however you want to put it would win(or be REALLY damn close).The problem is that the politicians dont give a damn what the people want anymore but it is becoming so mainstrean i dont see how they can stop it,MJ even has its own TV shows now(stupid as they may be) and politicians are having a harder and harder time sidestepping the issue.If you read a little history you will find that the absolute biggest fights against alcohol prohibition came at the very end just before it was legalized just like they are cracking down on the dispensaries etc now.Mitt romneys religous beleifs tell us that he is not a proponent of coca cola or coffee let alone marijuana which is fine,what remains to be seen is if he will try to push those on us or do what a president should do which is support the will of the majority of US citizens which i beleive the president is mandated to do,So make a stand mr. president elect,are you for us or against us?Im sure we all know by now where your competition president obama stands after all actions speak way louder than words.

 

[squiggly]

It's official, you've lost it.

You think this is about old-school new-school.

It's about republicans vs. democrats--and republicans will always hate anything which takes away from the glory of their god. That include marijuana.

If you vote for this guy--I hope you're one of the people he cracks down on when he takes office.

 

[dankworth]

I dont think it matters what party you support the fact is the older reefer madness generation is dying out and the younger folks are more tolerant of MJ,if it came to a vote today i beleive legalization or decriminilazation,however you want to put it would win(or be REALLY damn close).The problem is that the politicians dont give a damn what the people want anymore but it is becoming so mainstrean i dont see how they can stop it,MJ even has its own TV shows now(stupid as they may be) and politicians are having a harder and harder time sidestepping the issue.If you read a little history you will find that the absolute biggest fights against alcohol prohibition came at the very end just before it was legalized just like they are cracking down on the dispensaries etc now.Mitt romneys religous beleifs tell us that he is not a proponent of coca cola or coffee let alone marijuana which is fine,what remains to be seen is if he will try to push those on us or do what a president should do which is support the will of the majority of US citizens which i beleive the president is mandated to do,So make a stand mr. president elect,are you for us or against us?Im sure we all know by now where your competition president obama stands after all actions speak way louder than words.​

Yes but can you prove any of this?

 

[outwest]

And don't telly me what to believe , O'Bummer IS adn always WAS all hype , he's a freaking puppet.

Yeah O'Bummer has been good for MMJ , uh huh sure he has. Yup I don't know a dman thing , yup I'm blind , those raids etc are just a figment of my damn imagination.......all that after....what was it O'Bummer *originally* said on the subject?

What was it again?


And by the way , if you think the Tea Party is even remotely real Libertarian then guess again. Don't even bother attempting to argue it with me , the teaparty in Norcal has been co-opted by Neo-Cons and Big Ag.

All politicians are hype.

Yes their have been dispensaries raided under Obama. Keep in mind though that the dispensary scene has exploded under his presidency, despite the hypocritical nature of the raids. I won't give I'm credit for that, but I won't blame him for the raids either.

I truly believe that the prevalence of dispensaries in med friendly states would not happen under a repub president. I also believe that under a repub president the raids we've seen under Obama will be nothing in comparison.

My thoughts.

outwest

 

[squiggly]

All politicians are hype.

Yes their have been dispensaries raided under Obama. Keep in mind though that the dispensary scene has exploded under his presidency, despite the hypocritical nature of the raids. I won't give I'm credit for that, but I won't blame him for the raids either.

I truly believe that the prevalence of dispensaries in med friendly states would not happen under a repub president. I also believe that under a repub president the raids we've seen under Obama will be nothing in comparison.

My thoughts.

outwest

It's important to remember that the dispensary industry has exploded under Obama SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE IS MORE LENIENT IN TERMS OF RAIDING. This type of expansion would've been, and was, impossible under Bush. It will be impossible to maintain under Romney. I'd suggest that anyone with investments in dispensaries to liquidate your shit if Romney gets elected.

Is it really so hard to believe that some of these raids were legitimate, and that the dispensaries were providing marijuana to non-medical patients?

 

[outwest]

It's important to remember that the dispensary industry has exploded under Obama SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE IS MORE LENIENT IN TERMS OF RAIDING. This type of expansion would've been, and was, impossible under Bush. It will be impossible to maintain under Romney. I'd suggest that anyone with investments in dispensaries to liquidate your shit if Romney gets elected.

Agreed 100%.

outwest

 

[dirk d]

what would you propose bluenote?? you are obviously very passionate about this issue and would love to hear your thoughts on reforms for Our Country That we All Love and Cherish.

 

[Bluenote]

what would you propose bluenote?? you are obviously very passionate about this issue and would love to hear your thoughts on reforms for Our Country That we All Love and Cherish.

I don't think you would like what I propose. And it's coming anyway , regardless of whether you or I have an opinion on the subject/issues.

The bloated , pustulent , abusive beast that government has become, will soon collapse from the disease of it's own greed. Problem being that said iccor-ridden parasite may well consume the majority of the host prior to said collapse.

They no longer even make an effort to hide their greed and the associated theft.

 

[Bluenote]

It's important to remember that the dispensary industry has exploded under Obama SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE IS MORE LENIENT IN TERMS OF RAIDING. This type of expansion would've been, and was, impossible under Bush. It will be impossible to maintain under Romney. I'd suggest that anyone with investments in dispensaries to liquidate your shit if Romney gets elected.

****Is it really so hard to believe that some of these raids were legitimate, and that the dispensaries were providing marijuana to non-medical patients?*****

Squig , I like you , you're rational , present good points etc.

HOWEVER , the highlighted text within the above is just a bullshit Red Herring , fact remains that the shit should be legal for **everyone** just like it was in the first place , prior to Hearst and his bullshit High Society crowd of ruthless pukes.

 

[squiggly]

Squig , I like you , you're rational , present good points etc.

HOWEVER , the highlighted text within the above is just a bullshit Red Herring , fact remains that the shit should be legal for **everyone** just like it was in the first place , prior to Hearst and his bullshit High Society crowd of ruthless pukes.

It's TRUE that it should be legal for everyone--but it's not untrue that we're better off with Obama vs. any republican as it regards this issue. That was my point and I still believe it's a solid one, despite agreeing that the law is bullshit in the first place.

 

[Bluenote]

It's TRUE that it should be legal for everyone--but it's not untrue that we're better off with Obama vs. any republican as it regards this issue. That was my point and I still believe it's a solid one, despite agreeing that the law is bullshit in the first place.

Really? How many dispensaries were raided under BushLeague as opposed to O'Bummer? Really Squig do you REALLY expect me to believe that a rational , logical individual such as yourself actually SERIOUSLY believes that there's any **effective** difference between O'Bummer and a given Republican?

The " Party" , whichever one it happens to be , is nothing more that an arbitrary label applied to help divide the populace into " Us versus THEM" , much akin to the division into denominations of religious folks and with the same requisite fingerpointing and " we're better than T H E M".............attitudes.

 

[symbiote420]

It amazes me how peeps really believe voting matters, wanna shock the establishment....rock the vote by not voting at all! White vs Black, Rich vs Poor all things used by the Romans to make the populace check itself. Look at sports, the atheletes are the modern day gladiators, stadiums and arenas replace the coliseums, and then these money hungry senates and government rules! I say kill the banks too, go back to a barter system of trades and favors, oh those two steps will blow there freakin minds!

 

[squiggly]

If you want to know why the country's fucked--don't look at the old rich white dudes (they of course play their part)--instead look at the cynicism and general laziness of our populace to actually effect the change they all say they want.

You guys realize we have the power to put whoever the hell we want to on the ballot and vote them in--in ANY election.

And yes, I do believe Obama is hugely better than Bush, and better than any republican who might come after him. As was said previously the industry has absolutely taken off while Obama's been in the captain's chair--and this would've never been possible under Bush.

You're right, not many dispensaries were raided under Bush, but then again there weren't that many to begin with. I'll tell you what did happen a lot though under Bush--an ass ton of patients were prosecuted.

Delude yourself all you want--I'm not going to be coming over to your side simply because you don't like Obama. He's not my favorite, but he's the best thing since sliced bread if we compare him with Bush or Romney.