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Looks great brother! The yellowing you're seeing is actually perfectly normal. It's really more of a light lime green color I'm betting, & is just the new growth forming! As you said, it changes and greens up? I see it on all my gals.
Lol...wait til you flip...it'll really show once they go into hyperdrive! Speaking of which... How much room do you have in that tent? Lmao...you're gonna be out of space bro! On this method...it's not uncommon for them to reach 6' or taller -- FAST -- if you don't control it!!
Here's a couple of observations on your project & what I've learned over the years...
First...clones will always outgrow, out yield, out smell, out taste and out stone itself compared to the initial seed run!
In fact, when I try out ANY new strain...I never judge the plants on the seed run. I always take clones and grow them out and judge those. The plant will be SOOO much better in every department on the clone runs. In fact...I've seen progressive improvement from one generaton of clones to the next...meaning a clone taken from the clone will get even better! WHY? Well, I believe that it's because it takes the plant that amount of time to reach "true maturity" & "be all that it can be"!! lol. ! I've discussed this phenomenon with other growers who have also observed the same thing...so it's not just me who believes this to be true!
It's ALWAYS a bitch but especially so when the cut is flowering. Also...as you're no doubt learning...a flowering clone taken and revegged should really not be used to flower out. It's much faster, more efficient and you'll get a much better yield and overall results by vegging out your cut and taking clones from it (as a mother) and then flowering the cuts!
The ones that have been flowered before do not yield as well on the 2nd time around in my experience. That's ALSO why youre having trouble supercropping (Or pinching as us old timer farts always called it). I've also found that how they react is largely strain/genetically dependant too. One strain may do great, while another never takes to it at all. WW, I've found is very easy to grow and pretty tolerant of anything you do to it.
Skywalker you mentioned is a great strain! I'M ASSUMING you're talking about Reserva privada's Skywalker Kush? The clone-only is harder to come by...but can be had if you know the right peeps!;)
I I have kept a mother of that strain currently and was just discussing it in another thread here! It's a good one for revegging.. BUT you def want to flower clones of it! Don't judge it from the seed run bro! It easily gets twice as good in all areas on its 2nd and subsequent clone runs! In fact, my keeper of the Skywalker LOVES to be tied down (she's a naughty gal! Lol)!! I let her get about 8-10 nodes, then start bending the top over & weighting it down. All the side branches and secondary branches become tops at flip. It can be an amazing yielder if vegged correctly!
I'm really happy the mix is working out for you bro, but I need to give credit to 1973chemgrower (owner of Green Goo Labs) for turning me onto the method & lucas formula. Over the yeras, Ive tried many diff ways...and they all have their plusses and minuses, but this way gives me the best yields, flavor, potency, frost and just flat out better results than anything else I've ever tried. So...I'll probably always use this method now. I've modified both the nute mix and the medium as well as the hempy buckets themselves, so it's really not lucas formula anymore...or hempy buckets. I guess they're Maxy buckets now...lol. It's also the cheapest and simplest way I've ever tried as well. Immediately prior to switching to this method/mix I was an organics/soil guy. The flavor, aroma, frost, yield and potency I'm getting now are vastly increased, so I'll stick with this way!
I'm glad to things are going so well brother! I'm about to post up some recent pics in my newly revived Maxy Pad thread.
Lol. Here's a link... drop over and take a peek! Best, Max
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...reen-goo-labs-more.66405/page-11#post-1509791
P.S. You'll get more traffic on your thread (in my experence) if you'll size your pics down a bit before posting...or post them as thumbnails if you can't optimize the file size first. Your thread takes forever to load cause of all the un-optimized pics...just fyi.
Yeah, that is what I've come to the conclusion it is. Like I mentioned, this is my first full hydro run. The other plants I've done with it, were just to see if this was the route I wanted to go. So I was just using the simple (newer) 2 part from GH. The growth didn't look like this.
Now using your formula, the growth is just so fast & furious...that's all the lime green color is.
The tent is 78" tall. Usable space though (because of how much space I need for the light) is probably 65". They are all very short right now, but I can see how fast the growth is. So, I can imagine once it hits the stretch it's going to go nuts. Thanks for the heads up though. I didn't know they would rush to that height...they are also both tall plants & large yielders, so I will have to be extra careful I guess. I ran into this with a Strawberry Cough plant. Once it hit the stretch, it FLEW to the ceiling. Perfect temps etc, the plant is just a beast. I've run both of these before, I took the flowering clones. So I have a bit of an idea of how they grow under normal circumstances.
You are the man! Let's hear it!
I have never observed that, probably because I haven't been looking. Or, I attributed it to other factors. For instance, I mentioned to you that all these plants are stinking significantly during the veg state. But I was attributing that to your hydro recipe (which is phenomenal by the way)
I've read both sides of that opinion. The theory that each clone degenerates a bit (I'm summarizing) I've never run enough clones to have an opinion on that part of it. But any opinions of experienced growers I absorb, file, & keep in mind in my "experiments."
That is also good to know because both seed runs were not that great. However, I had an accident one day. I forgot to turn the A/C on & it got up to 107 degrees in the room. It was one full day, & I remedied it as quickly as possible, but I could see that I had put a serious dent in a couple of the plants future. The WW stretched itself beyond repair. All the others, were either not as sensitive to the heat, or I just happened to catch the WW on the wrong day to handle those temps.
I guess I'll figure that out. My plan was, is, & will remain to flower them. I still have the product of the mothers so I will be able to compare them once everything is cut, dried, & cured. I have enough product. Really, I just do these kinds of things for the community as a whole. Sometimes I have questions (like monster cropping) where there are opposing opinions, very little documentation and photos. A lot of the stuff I do, is strictly to try it, learn it, & document it as well as possible so that others can form their own opinions. I don't have the room to run more plants than I currently am. So, I guess I'll just see what happens. I'm comfortable that I can grow a proper product, so I often "play" more than strictly produce.
I've not flowered enough clones to have noticed. The super cropping problem is the result of either the new hydro recipe, or the fact that they are flowering clones. For growth like this though, not being able to pinch is a small price to pay. Both were able to be pinched before, & responded well to it. Honestly, what it really seems to be is that the plant is simply too strong. Large, dense branches.
WW, at least the seeds I got, like you said, is a very easy plant to grow. It will take a good amount of abuse. The ones in the pic are clones from the WW that stretched itself too thin. I did this intentionally, because I wanted to see if that huge spike in temps that day is what caused the problems. I'm pretty sure it is, but I want to confirm. Like I said...I like to learn. My temps now are stellar, so, I believe, the plant will grow like it should.
I have no idea what company it was from. I take it that is the co. to get it from? I want to run 2 Skywalkers in my next grow. But anyway, a local guy just called me & said he had some fire, something special, so i picked up a Z. It is one of the best plants I've ever had. Really works out well for me for daytime meds.
The clone only thing...I'm trying to patiently make my way into that community. I only know one local guy who is in that community, but he will never connect me to his source. He won't even sell me clones he gets at a markup. He trusts that I'm not law enforcement, but it's his "thing" & he wants to keep it that way. & I respect that. I'll just have to find my own way in. I think that if I keep posting, making friends, & just being an overall jovial spirit, the doors will open.
But I also did not know that clones could be sent via courier. So that is something I'm looking into now. The guy I know who is "clone only" physically drives to Cali & Colorado to get his. I don't hold "clone only" in a higher regard, I'm just as happy with seeds. But it seems like a lot of the more desirables strains, are kept as clone only.
Good to know!
I was also organic soil. It's a lot of work, one of the reasons I wanted to go hydro. Another reason I went with hydro is one of the other local guys carries product from a "master." 100% hydro, and the density, looks, aromas, taste, potency, bag appeal, EVERYTHING, was better than any soil product I have tried anywhere, from anyone, at any time. I've only been growing for 1.5 years, but I do perpetual harvest, so it's a fair number of plants. & I am by no means a master, but I had the hang of soil pretty good. This mix is fantastic. I've known about the Lucas formula for quite a while. However, people go about it different ways. The best way to dial it in, is to take the exact recipe's other people are using & compare them. Unfortunately (& somewhat understandably) a lot of people are not eager to reveal their exact recipe. From what I have tried thus far, there is no competition. This combination is just a growth bomb. I knew there would be a learning curve to dialing in hydro, but you kicked me so far forward with this recipe, I feel like I'm just ironing out ppm's, instead of "what to use." Honestly, the only reason it's being adjusted at all is because I'm just a curious soul. It's good to go, as is.
Going "well" is an understatement if we are talking about the recipe. It's very good.
Will do!
Thanks buddy, I never gave that a thought.
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