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Hey TC,
Right on bro! The fix for me was switching to hempy's. I ran hempy's in my old mpb bins, had zero problems, and yielded more than all 4 of my mpb runs. I'll never switch from hempy's now. I got (finally), over 2lbs per tree, and I know that I'll do better as I get the hempy's dialed in.
Goodbye mpb's & good riddance!!!!!
Flak, feedback, whatever. To me it's just questions and answers. Mind you, they are 6 months saved up in the piggy bank. Sorry if you feel I'm beating up on him. I would call it a heated debate. There is no question, that the system has monstrous growth potential, and at a very accelerated rate. I know that there have been 4 pound trees from the system. They just were exceptions, and not averages. Still a 2 pound plant is pretty crazy to have indoors. My biggest beef is that DD got all of our heads swimming with the MPB fever, and then disappeared just in time for everybody to hit the wall with the system, and grab for straws on the true fix. There was no info on signs to watch out for besides checking your roots and foliage. I would love for DD's to redeem his once brilliant image here, by working through all of these problem grows, and helping people understand more on what it is to fine tune his system. I will be running it again in a short while, and we will see if I can ride it or if I get bucked off again. I am always game for giving things a fair shake. An expensive shake. But, I set out to run this thing, and I'm not ready to pull the plug quite yet.
-TF
Medimary,
My ph did not drop or raise when I has the rot. No slime. The main part of the rot was right below the crown, in the net pot.
Coxie,
Right on man! Go with what works for you. There is no doubt that the jury reports that the hempy has large yields, and is pretty damn stable. You gonna do another thread sometime. I was lovin your water cooled hash plant run.
-TF
I don't know about everybody else's, but my plant did not look that way. First it looked like a calcium deficiency, then later it started looking like Potassium deficient towards the end. The leaves did not just brown up from the tip, with the rest being relatively healthy.
Here's a pic of the plant's roots after pulling out of the hydroton. That was the epicenter of the rot for my problem on that run. Don't know if it's pythium, but it's rot of some kind.
Plant with problem
Later, after many leaves died off.
[had the same symptoms Tf]
Yeh dd you are polite in your replies and have photos...a big plus in this world...if one is going to be a teacher.
When you say "heat" you are speaking of inside tub nute/root temps?
This is much more believable than lumen shock...
Because as i mentioned i never ever lost a plant in "krustys" dumping them into rooms with 4@1ks on each plant...so lumen shock had to be some other factor like
'root rot due to tubs temps being too high' even though we did follow your advice to a T...but i guess you did too[joke]
And yes since then my res temp has always been under 62f
i guess its a larger learning curve for all of us[ including you]..unlike krusty buckets.
i know it was a work in progress and nobody made me try RDWC.
I can easily say my problems could have been from
"too high internal tub temps "..which of course "rots the the roots."
So in fact it was "root rot" that everyone got ..just not root rot due to disease.
I also think that sometimes the "3" up the basket "idea can rot the stem
if the stalk gets too wet..either by the tub lid shifting down a bit or misjudging
how far the transplant went down in the net pot/inner bucket.
same thing happened to just one of my plants last run... room temps did not go over 82
exactly the reply i was looking for...everything can be different. Esp. strains, my g13 will take all the heat you can give it but my g13 pheno from my 13dawgz will brown and die at 91 degrees. If you really want to be certain of the plants overall temperature you have to buy a heat laser gun. Point it at the plant, pull the trigger and you will know what temp it is. I am not saying this is your case but dont count on the temp everywhere n the room being the same as what your thermometre is reading. That would be a very big mistake. I have never seen it once, i always have a buch of hi lo indoor weatherman digital metres and i watch them very closely, the highs and lows.
dds
I just re read your whole thread TF, do you think there is a chance you damaged your roots with the 5ml of physan per gallon at the begining of the run?
It seems weird to me your ph was not going up or down, sometimes if burn/shock the roots they will turn brown and that can be mistaken for root rot..
That last pic is identical to my pics except that my leaves wernt taken off. It looks like the cube your plant was started in was sitting directly in the water.
I was told by physan20 staff to add 1 oz to 150 gallons of nute solution to prevent root rot. Never tried it tho.
i mean heat in the room bro but sure as hell a warm bucket is the major blow for sure.
same thing happened to just one of my plants last run... room temps did not go over 82
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