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[Delerium]

Just one of those things you think up when your stoned lol

I remember throwing 45'2 around like a frisbee only to realize that beatles rolling stones etc were that huge, but I was 14.

 

[Delerium]

Daytime Room.

 

[Delerium]

Nighttime Room.


Still have something going on at the edges for sure in both rooms, same week. day 26 found some larvae in the root zone as well

 

[ZombieSlave]

Hey Bro, judging by your last batch of pix your EC is still to high for there current condition, If the RH is high they are going to have large problems dumping all that EC buildup. looks like you have locked out your zinc(rust tips) and iron(red stems dark green on leave edges) as well as calcium(rust splotches thought the leaf). your new growth still looks like it has some clawing going on. To me your girls are showing a lot of indication of lockout by too high EC. like at some point perhaps to much calmag!? not 100% and this is the internet. I see the edge of your fan leaves tipping up. to me they are trying to processes all that nute but cant due to to much RH + high heat(you seem to have the heat under control (70's?) or just to high of EC to handle it all. If you had high RH and cO2 your girls may have been able to eat that. but I dont think you have your co2 hooked up yet. Perhaps lowering the RH to help them persperate better would be a good idea.

I would perhaps flush the system or if you can cut what you have going on by 50% more. and let them recover over the next week or two. I have recovered from worse. long story short dumped the system. put tap water in and PHed it(I dont exactly recommend tap, I had a major emergency and had no other choice,my tap was 600PPM (.07) and its a bitch to PH. but it worked. they came back in about 2 weeks on top of the game. I just made sure to keep the water on the lvl.

 

[Delerium]

Hey Bro, judging by your last batch of pix your EC is still to high for there current condition, If the RH is high they are going to have large problems dumping all that EC buildup. looks like you have locked out your zinc(rust tips) and iron(red stems dark green on leave edges) as well as calcium(rust splotches thought the leaf). your new growth still looks like it has some clawing going on. To me your girls are showing a lot of indication of lockout by too high EC. like at some point perhaps to much calmag!? not 100% and this is the internet. I see the edge of your fan leaves tipping up. to me they are trying to processes all that nute but cant due to to much RH + high heat(you seem to have the heat under control (70's?) or just to high of EC to handle it all. If you had high RH and cO2 your girls may have been able to eat that. but I dont think you have your co2 hooked up yet. Perhaps lowering the RH to help them persperate better would be a good idea.

I would perhaps flush the system or if you can cut what you have going on by 50% more. and let them recover over the next week or two. I have recovered from worse. long story short dumped the system. put tap water in and PHed it(I dont exactly recommend tap, I had a major emergency and had no other choice,my tap was 600PPM (.07) and its a bitch to PH. but it worked. they came back in about 2 weeks on top of the game. I just made sure to keep the water on the lvl.

I haven't updated the room in a few days. Just finishing a transplant tonight.

 

[Delerium]

My VDP is usually close to being spot on. Weather has been so jacked past month, "Polar Vortex"
need to tighten up the enviro, agreed.
this popped out in veg over the past 2 days literally.

 

[ZombieSlave]

can you get some better shots of the new new growth? the pix in post 46. same plants/setup or different?

 

[Delerium]

can you get some better shots of the new new growth? the pix in post 46. same plants/setup or different?

I'll take some new pics right now.
Same 3x3x6" tray with 4 airstones and a manifold creating an undercurrent only for veg.
66.3f 57RH

 

[Delerium]

I'm going to work on a better camera setup shortly.

 

[ZombieSlave]

Post 49 looks like your EC is to high for them, (clawing + what looks like nute lockout from prob to much calmag) add more RO bring down the ppms by a lot. over 50%. maybe think about hitting them up with a foiler spray in a few days.

 

[Delerium]

Post 49 looks like your EC is to high for them, (clawing + what looks like nute lockout from prob to much calmag) add more RO bring down the ppms by a lot. over 50%. maybe think about hitting them up with a foiler spray in a few days.

I can do that, I hit them with the nutes the other day, went to 350 ppm, I pulled out water dropped it 150. I can take it lower.

 

[ZombieSlave]

give them about a week at 150. at what point did they start to show problems?

 

[Delerium]

Post 49 looks like your EC is to high for them, (clawing + what looks like nute lockout from prob to much calmag) add more RO bring down the ppms by a lot. over 50%. maybe think about hitting them up with a foiler spray in a few days.

Foliared then the past couple of days, when I dropped the ppm. I was thinking just running the UC roots with some calmag, or eliminate the calmag?

 

[Delerium]

give them about a week at 150. at what point did they start to show problems?

48 hrs, I was thinking the rusting was because of MG def.

 

[ZombieSlave]

I think it would be best to have close to nothing and let the salt buildup fade. I hope you are foliar spraying them at dark.

 

[Delerium]

48 hrs, I was thinking the rusting was because of MG def.

48 hrs, I was thinking the rusting was because of MG def.

I did increase the light, I put a 600w Gavita over the table but everything was fine until I pushed the ppm's up.
Then the rust spots started

 

[Delerium]

I think it would be best to have close to nothing and let the salt buildup fade. I hope you are foliar spraying them at dark.

I did not. I foliared them with the lights on, which I usually never have had a problem with for my veg plants. I was thinking that I may have Fubared that because of the HID over the tray.
I typically use t-5's but I threw in the HID

 

[ZombieSlave]

I did increase the light, I put a 600w Gavita over the table but everything was fine until I pushed the ppm's up.
Then the rust spots started

sounds and looks like lock out to me. less is more.

if you spray with lights on the droplets will act like a concave glass and intensify the light to burn the leaves.


still looks like lockout

 

[Delerium]

I'll let them run with no nutes for a few days. Let the salts leach from the stones. I was going to fill the adjacent tray with ro and place them into there tonight. I might as well get on that after i finish the transplant. I have 4 more left 15 minutes left

 

[Delerium]

sounds and looks like lock out to me. less is more.

if you spray with lights on the droplets will act like a concave glass and intensify the light to burn the leaves.


still looks like lockout

It is too bad, cuz that leaf burn is going to be there till I harvest. It will always be a reminder