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MrFatGangster
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Thank you Deadstill for getting back to me so quickly!Howdy and welcome to the Farm!
First of all, you have not failed until every plant has died. So don't call yourself a failure before you've actually failed!
Second, exactly what kind of coco mix are you using?
Third, are you allowing the mix to dry out a little bit in between watering/feeding? You don't want coco to go completely dry, but you don't want to keep it saturated 24/7, either. Roots need oxygen!
Last question, are you sure you're not overdosing on cal-mag? I sort of read this quickly but it sounds like you're using way more cal-mag than is required especially for seedlings.
Also, why you using bloom nutes on seedlings? Is it just for lack of something better? I'd get some good veg nutes to start with..
Check this whole thread and study the charts within - https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/t...r-making-nutrient-deficiency-diagnoses.60485/
Those charts will save you tons of time and money^^^
What exactly is your watering/feeding schedule and technique? I see a lot of people who are having these sorts of problems, are also "measuring out" exact measurements of water/food and not just soaking the pots completely and allowing them to dry out a little. I have never, not even once, given a plant a "ration" of water or food. When I go to water or feed my plants, I put in as much as it takes to completely saturate the pot. That might be 2 gallons one day, and 5 the next time, it's never the same. But a good portion of problems happen when people start measuring out rations of water and not fully saturating the pots. What happens then, is you end up with wet and dry spots in the soil/coco/whatever. The wet spots harbor pathogens and cause root rot or other issues, and the dry spots do absolutely no good for producing new roots.
Don't worry, Mike! We'll help ya get on the right track in no time!
Wow thank you PK1 with your help as well!i would say you can still save those seedlings and the problem you are having is due to your ph. 6.2 is not meant for coco. Plant obsorbation for coco is just like hydroponic which is between 5.5 to 5.9
Here is a better picture to understand soil vs hydroponic ph range. Just run enough water from top until the waste water is the same as your input and the girls will start thriving in few days. make sure the ph is 5.5 and feed them half of what the schedule is showing.
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Here is a collection of top links on this website that will help you understand growing better.
You also want to read what @Aqua Man has to say about coco preparation, feeding and other sort of benefecial informations.
A collection of the best threads at The Farm
This is an attempt to put all the best threads for new growers in one place. I invite everyone to nominate their favorite thread but I will be keeping this thread very tidy as it is a lot of information to sift thru. Forgive me in advance if I delete or edit your post. I love all ya growers...www.thcfarmer.com
Thanks again for your help! I responded to both of you helping me out but it says “waiting moderator approval” I hope you get this and don’t think I’m being a snob!!Yeah I was going to point that out after I heard back from him, but I would drop that pH to about 5.8, as well.
PK. Is best practice for hydro to ph to 5.5 and let it creep up to 6.1 then correct again so the roots get full exposure? In the past I ph’d to the middle.i would say you can still save those seedlings and the problem you are having is due to your ph. 6.2 is not meant for coco. Plant obsorbation for coco is just like hydroponic which is between 5.5 to 5.9
Here is a better picture to understand soil vs hydroponic ph range. Just run enough water from top until the waste water is the same as your input and the girls will start thriving in few days. make sure the ph is 5.5 and feed them half of what the schedule is showing.
View attachment 1275987
Here is a collection of top links on this website that will help you understand growing better.
You also want to read what @Aqua Man has to say about coco preparation, feeding and other sort of benefecial informations.
A collection of the best threads at The Farm
This is an attempt to put all the best threads for new growers in one place. I invite everyone to nominate their favorite thread but I will be keeping this thread very tidy as it is a lot of information to sift thru. Forgive me in advance if I delete or edit your post. I love all ya growers...www.thcfarmer.com
If the cups are staying wet for more than a day is that okay? My very first watering of these older plants stayed wet for 72 hours before feeling like the damp sponge I was talking about earlier.
I think that's part of the issue, but lack of Nitrogen and possible lockout of others is probably the main problem.They looked like they’ve grown up in saturated conditions to me as well Which makes no sense to me because it’s coco. I lost a few seedlings from wet roots in my rockwool[drainage was bad]and they looked similar.
Hello Habosabin,They looked like they’ve grown up in saturated conditions to me as well Which makes no sense to me because it’s coco. I lost a few seedlings from wet roots in my rockwool[drainage was bad]and they looked similar.
i would say you can still save those seedlings and the problem you are having is due to your ph. 6.2 is not meant for coco. Plant obsorbation for coco is just like hydroponic which is between 5.5 to 5.9
Here is a better picture to understand soil vs hydroponic ph range. Just run enough water from top until the waste water is the same as your input and the girls will start thriving in few days. make sure the ph is 5.5 and feed them half of what the schedule is showing.
View attachment 1275987
Here is a collection of top links on this website that will help you understand growing better.
You also want to read what @Aqua Man has to say about coco preparation, feeding and other sort of benefecial informations.
A collection of the best threads at The Farm
This is an attempt to put all the best threads for new growers in one place. I invite everyone to nominate their favorite thread but I will be keeping this thread very tidy as it is a lot of information to sift thru. Forgive me in advance if I delete or edit your post. I love all ya growers...www.thcfarmer.com
Thanks for your recommendation, I’ll check out all the info I can.Feel free to look at some of the coco growers journals and read. You can pick alot from their mistakes to make your growing experince better.
I checked out that link and I’m going to continue watering at 5.5-5.8 and hopefully the run off comes down but looks like there are some people in that link saying that you definitely should have the runoff ph on your “radar” but not necessarily have to go too crazy trying to achieve the exact same ph in the run off. Which is funny because I was literally going crazy pouring 2 gallons of water waiting for it to drain and collect and test both ph and ppm.i would say you can still save those seedlings and the problem you are having is due to your ph. 6.2 is not meant for coco. Plant obsorbation for coco is just like hydroponic which is between 5.5 to 5.9
Here is a better picture to understand soil vs hydroponic ph range. Just run enough water from top until the waste water is the same as your input and the girls will start thriving in few days. make sure the ph is 5.5 and feed them half of what the schedule is showing.
View attachment 1275987
Here is a collection of top links on this website that will help you understand growing better.
You also want to read what @Aqua Man has to say about coco preparation, feeding and other sort of benefecial informations.
A collection of the best threads at The Farm
This is an attempt to put all the best threads for new growers in one place. I invite everyone to nominate their favorite thread but I will be keeping this thread very tidy as it is a lot of information to sift thru. Forgive me in advance if I delete or edit your post. I love all ya growers...www.thcfarmer.com
Me? Pure canna cocoare you sure you are using coco alone and not with some sort of top soil?
no not you, @MrFatGangster are you sure you are using coco only?Me? Pure canna coco
70/30 coco perlite… i asked if he was using any other nutrientsno not you, @MrFatGangster are you sure you are using coco only?
I had them at about 200 ppfd but lowered now to 150 ppfd unless you think that’s still too much I have no problem adjusting to what’s necessary! Thank you Aqua man for letting me know.Havent read anything but your stunting the crap out if them from the light intensity… they clearly have light burn
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