squiggly said:

Something we can agree on.


What you're seeing is pissing match on BOTH sides, and trying to make any one of them look any worse than the other for any reason other than those of ideology is completely frivolous and impossible. Hence why I'm on the left--I'm an atheist, an aspiring scientist, from a low income family/area, and I'm a college student with nearly 100K debt.

These are all things which republicans have no interest in addressing or respecting about my American experience.

I appear to know something which they don't--which is, of course, that neglecting the most needy of citizens has never worked out well for any country in all of human history, ever. It ALWAYS came back to bite them in the ass.

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Ah these are the parts where I love ya squiggly. This is great insight and very true. I am putting a student through college next year and holy shit!!!!!!Tuition has gone up so much in three years since I was last at University it is appalling. One must wonder when we will get to a more European secondary education format, at least Northern Europe where education is basically free so long as you are able to test well. You see we have problems when people are well educated such as yourself, and I am going to assume that you did at the very least fairly well in school, get out of school and are forced to figure a way to pay for your shit.
I think that the right has long forgot the need for education, shit they are calling everyone with good educations "elitist" (regardless of the obvious hypocrisy) and at the same time are trying to have less teachers in classrooms.......shit had Newt got elected we may have even seen the poor children 10 and under working for their "privilege".

The right is awesome at soundbites and basically distorting reality to get out whatever they are trying to say and have their followers brand it. Shit they are fabulous branders, they have been able to brand the poor as something to be ashamed of, regardless if a significantly high number of people live in poverty. They have been able to make people want to lie about their social position, they are able to do this by credit and other illusions, but most importantly the "average joe" will do anything not to be branded poor, even/especially lie to themselves. The daily show was quoting a poll about six months back that stated that 19% of Americans believe they are within the top 1% of wage earners in America. 46% of Americans under 30 think they will one day be rich. If there is anything we can learn from the right it would be how to manipulate the populace, but do so benevolently.

P.s.: I know some people here in cali doing some amazing things as far as r and d for cannabis genetic profiling. Have you any interest in pursuing something of the sort? It would seem like a no brainer for someone with a chemistry background and love for cannabis. Just a thought.

Hey, I was just wondering, the weather is really good and I would like to "Bounce" from So.Cal for A while and do some surfing in South America and Relax and leave Stress and worries behind. Does any body know if I could just abandon an old beater Honda I have in
El Centro, back pack across the border with my long board and Maybe become A Mexican Citizen? I wouldn't want to catch no heat from the Government down that way... I'm not worried about drug cartels or anything like that because I hear guns are plentiful... I can defend my self. I just need to know if they would treat me as A citizen? Could I own property if I am productive and find an area I like and just live there, Maybe A dual citizenship or something? Any info would be greatly appriciated... Thanks in advance!

Oh those stupid Mexicans taking all of our jobs....I tried to get work at a local vineyard and they told me no because they just hired a crew from Reynosa! Fucking assholes. Man I hate this government shit so much, why can't people just take care of themselves? This Obama asshole is after my guns, wants me to fuck my brother, and then give my job to a dirty Mexican!!!!!!Oh my god what happened to this beautiful country? Its a fucking socialist joke now! Obama and Pelosi and that bastard Reid all they are trying to do is take my money, went to the bank today and my balance said .04. Even though I had deposited my check for 20g's yesterday they said that the 19999.96 remainder went to some poor fucking handout. All I want is for the government to get their hands off my medicare!!!!!!! Leave it and my disability check alone!!!!!!!The Fed is bullshit, they are trying to make all Americans Kenyans by having a President that is not only from Kenya but lives there now!!!!! I saw him the other night smoking a joint next to a camel.....

I mean like Mexico is so Ghetto but I'm just Dieing to get back... Can't put my finger on it

57 states huh? I never saw that clip. just wow. Well what do you expect from a Indonesian Muslim named Barry Soretoro.

The "Truth" would be Refreshing... If one of his butifull daughters "Died" via. A Fast and Furrious weapon you can bet "Heads Would be Rolling" like the balls on A pool table in the Justice Department... Unless it was his "Head" of course.

I have A question for "EveryOne" out there... How did your Parents and their parents ever "Survive" without "ObamaCare" "Welfare" "UnEmployment" and "Free Education" This is not ment to be insulting in any way... Sometimes people need help to get through A "Rough" time but my Parents/Grand Parents would always say... "You Don't Know Rough Child"

Actually my parents had the best almost free public university system in the world in the time period they went to college. And many families had medical coverage back then as the jobs provided it. The jobs paid higher compared to today's minimum wage as well, inflation adjusted.

And just because someone survived without something doesn't mean that they wouldn't do better with 'that' something.

Considering no one has gotten the chance to use Obamacare how can you even compare having Obamacare versus not having Obamacare as we have no known medical statistics with Obamacare implemented.

You do realize education cost more now then it did then, so why do you say they survived without it, they actually had better education and more funding then we do today....

SoCal 420 said:

Hey, I was just wondering, the weather is really good and I would like to "Bounce" from So.Cal for A while and do some surfing in South America and Relax and leave Stress and worries behind. Does any body know if I could just abandon an old beater Honda I have in
El Centro, back pack across the border with my long board and Maybe become A Mexican Citizen? I wouldn't want to catch no heat from the Government down that way... I'm not worried about drug cartels or anything like that because I hear guns are plentiful... I can defend my self. I just need to know if they would treat me as A citizen? Could I own property if I am productive and find an area I like and just live there, Maybe A dual citizenship or something? Any info would be greatly appriciated... Thanks in advance!

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How about donating the car? Or better yet sell it instead of littering the streets with your garbage.
Marry a young woman down there and you'll be treated much more like a local, if you don't speak the language and look way out of place, odds are you won't be treated as a citizen. You could own property if you had money, but it's tough to make money there unless you have a niche. Make your money here and buy down there, learn from the natives...

Thanks for the hot tip bro, I appriciate it...

P.S. I didn't plan on littering the streets, It's An 88 Honda CvCC Hatch Back, I call it my Beater cause it never dies. Still has the original engine/paint and gets over 40mpg. I was just going to leave the key's in the ignition with the signed pink on the seat... Travel light and sell my board when i'm done and fly back...

Really, so somebody who walks by and actually sees the pink slip can then steal it or take it...lol
Just throw an ad up on craigslist for a free car, boom later today it'll be gone.

baba G said:

Actually my parents had the best almost free public university system in the world in the time period they went to college. And many families had medical coverage back then as the jobs provided it. The jobs paid higher compared to today's minimum wage as well, inflation adjusted.

And just because someone survived without something doesn't mean that they wouldn't do better with 'that' something.

Considering no one has gotten the chance to use Obamacare how can you even compare having Obamacare versus not having Obamacare as we have no known medical statistics with Obamacare implemented.

You do realize education cost more now then it did then, so why do you say they survived without it, they actually had better education and more funding then we do today....

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Glad your parents got some of the best of what the U.S has to offer... Her's the way it started for my mother and grand parents, Took like 4-6 weeks to get here...

Generally, those immigrants who were approved spent from two to five hours at Ellis Island. Arrivals were asked 29 questions including name, occupation, and the amount of money carried. It was important to the American government that the new arrivals could support themselves and have money to get started. The average the government wanted the immigrants to have was between 18 and 25 dollars. Those with visible health problems or diseases were sent home or held in the island's hospital ficility for long periods of time. More than three thousand would-be immigrants died on Ellis Island while being held in the hospital facilities. Some unskilled workers were rejected because they were considered "likely to become a public charge". About 2 percent were denied admission to the U.S. and sent back to their countries of origin for reasons such as having a chronic contagious disease, criminal background, or insanity. Ellis Island was sometimes known as "The Island of Tears" or "Heartbreak Island" because of those 2% who were not admitted after the long transatlantic voyage. The Kissing Post is a wooden column outside the Registry Room, where new arrivals were greeted by their relatives and friends, typically with tears, hugs and kisses.

Misticly after that, A 20 acre ranch in the midle of So.Cal poped out of their 2.5x2.5x3 foot box they carried with them to the U.S because nobody would help them.

P.S. I still have the hand made Shipping Crate. It's A work of art in A way. Really well built. I can post A photo if you like... Just let me know.

baba G said:

Really, so somebody who walks by and actually sees the pink slip can then steal it or take it...lol
Just throw an ad up on craigslist for a free car, boom later today it'll be gone.

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It's called A freebe... You can't steal A gift. I want to walk across, cars are problamatic in Mexico when they are from the U.S. I have done this before and if the Federales pull you over with your Ca. Plates they try to Fuck you out of all your money right there on the spot. They roll with M-16"s and barter with you for cash to not hassle you. It's not like driving around here man.

Anyone here in the USA or California especially had amazing university system that was well affordable from 60's, 70's..
My relatives came from another country too as I'm not native american. Had both side of the family come through Ellis, their children and grandchildren got the amazing Cali university system..that was my main point.

p.s. It started that way for a lot of people...
Also, my relatives were getting shot at and prosecuted as they ran for America and only some of them made it onto a ship that brought them here...not saying it's all pretty. But saying America has offered and allowed many people a beautiful life compared to where they came from and how the people get treated by those govts...

SoCal 420 said:

It's called A freebe... You can't steal A gift.

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My point is, that your car will be noticed by someone who would be into taking or looking into a car well enough to see a signed pink slip on the seat..usually a slime ball type. Just my thoughts...
Now if you spraypainted FREE on it and it was visible I'd think you'd get many more folks interested instead of the one dude who happens to notice you left keys in the car as they case the cars on that street...

SoCal 420 said:

It's called A freebe... You can't steal A gift. I want to walk across, cars are problamatic in Mexico when they are from the U.S. I have done this before and if the Federales pull you over with your Ca. Plates they try to Fuck you out of all your money right there on the spot. They roll with M-16"s and barter with you for cash to not hassle you. It's not like driving around here man.

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Well, what are you waiting for, hit the road and enjoy the surf!!

That is the plan man, Have A few bro's finishing up lose ends... None of us know about staying for extended periods if I decide to go that rought, that's why I asked.

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My point is, that your car will be noticed by someone who would be into taking or looking into a car well enough to see a signed pink slip on the seat..usually a slime ball type. Just my thoughts...
Now if you spraypainted FREE on it and it was visible I'd think you'd get many more folks interested instead of the one dude who happens to notice you left keys in the car as they case the cars on that street...

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Point taken...

Thanks for feeling me, I just would have more fun involved with giving a car away. LIke I'd post an ad and find the person who seems to need it the most and then make their life easier with a free auto!

sanvanalona said:

P.s.: I know some people here in cali doing some amazing things as far as r and d for cannabis genetic profiling. Have you any interest in pursuing something of the sort? It would seem like a no brainer for someone with a chemistry background and love for cannabis. Just a thought.

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I am. I just don't know where to put my foot in the door--I'm a bit removed from that scene here in Chicagoland.

I even have several ideas for genetic modifications which could be made to greatly increase oil production (would create an extremely high yield hash plant).