am i the only person who saw all the caucus fraud going on. I believe in maine, there was a handful of relatively larger cities or counties that actually voted yet none of them were counted. This happend in a handful of states this year, and i think it was basically to show us that ron paul aint goin to the top no matter how many votes go his way.
Ackshully, yes--I did see this, and it was super alarming to me. This was all on public record and that to me constitutes proof. I don't look at this as a "theory". This is some shit that
went down.
Who knows if it was one dude, or two dudes, or a group of super rich dudes all interested in the same thing, but we can see the actual confirmation that
it happened. I don't know categorically that it was against Ron Paul primarily--but it absolutely looked to me like this, and I say that being a non-supporter of Ron Paul (I like-
ish the guy, though).
I totally don't believe that everything is on the up and up, that would be naive (as some would argue I am). What I believe is that we actually don't have to just sit here and wait for it to blow up (if its not already).
We have the right and ability to stop it underwritten in the constitution, and the Tea Party proved it--even though saying that just made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.
All I'm suggesting is that the democratic party represents a better "springboard" for a similar movement than did the republican party. People who think we're sheeple are sheeple-ing themselves by default by letting the crazies springboard "revolutions".
I think if you get a bunch of guys who
believe in the right thing (even if the symbol of it is corrupt) it serves as a
better alternative to watching a large proportion of what happens in the short term be dictated by a bunch of crazies.
These views are interesting and maybe even represent reality sometimes (conspiracy theories)--but there's nothing there to
believe in. Right now the only thing anyone can
actually believe in is the republican party. There are plenty of nut baskets who are all-in, heads up, when it comes to the GOP (and to a lesser but not insignificant extent the Tea Party).
Not so much for anyone else. There is no centric message that is held to. If you look back in history it is for the
the people to stand up and do something. Not by force but by exercising our constitutionally underwritten right to create a new party for the people and by the people. Where in sam hell do any of you think the democratic party came from?
They actually brought a ton of good things with them when they first came around, because they had the peoples intentions driving them to the top. We banded together and we made shit happen. I'm just saying we need to do it again, and all the propaganda and fear mongering doesn't help force the issue. I think people are "sheeple" but not because they're not
in on the conspiracy. Because they have a huge amount of power in this country and they dash it to the rocks each day by diving themselves, and making everything about these divisive and unprovable unwinnable arguments.
If there's any conspiracy it's one against ourselves to
take the future we are entitled to and which is ultimately within our grasp should we desire and design to take it. Americans are no longer reaching for the golden ring, and it's no surprise they can't it get. There is no conspiracy. If we band together peacefully, we can take control--it's that simple. Saying otherwise only perpetuates the idea that we don't have power, and lengthens the time between now and the time when we will
inevitably take it from these broken parties.
If you think repubs and democrats are the last party that are going to run america--you've lost it. History tells us a million times over in much older countries that this isn't the case.
FOR THE MOMENT, we still have a constitutionally guaranteed right to take control of our country should we put our differences aside and design to change the process and scope of government. I think talking about
anything but that will prove to have been a mistake should the moment come that we no longer have that right.
I say something is coming true and you say it's true already--I'm just asking you to humor me. If you plan to keep breathing, you might as well--it's better than giving up.